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Thoughts on Wolf 9mm steel case ammunition
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Harley2012
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The laquer coated steel can also be an issue sticking in chambers. Besides, its Russian poop, pass.
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Laquer coating never made steel ammo stick. It won't melt or deform from much higher heat than is generated in a firearm. Water proof coating on wolf did used to cause problems but that was discontinued over 20 years ago.
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I love it s as it's cheap, around 1200 fps, and never an issue with ftf or fte's. Ive shot it through my Wilson's, nighthawks, baers, m&ps, shadow 2, Czechmate, ts2, Glocks (43, 26, 19, 45, 17) and pcc. No issues, no damage. Don't listen to the Internet dorks. It's fine, accurate as anything you'll need for range use, and has enough pow to work most comps with oem springs...cz Czechmate for example. And that's a 3 port comp btw.
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Its cheap and works and wont hurt anything.. but as someone mentioned...you can get reloadable brass for almost the same prices. I have some steel in stock and have bought it... my criteria is(and this is often the case I think it may be now) if I can get steel for $9.99 a box of 50 9mm and the least expensive brass is $2 or less more (in this case $11.99 or less i get the brass..If i cant find it when I want it for that price... I get the steel and call it good... At worst(unless you go to a bad range..and if thats the case its on you or find a better one) you can keep the brass and trade or sell it to a reloader as once fired brass.. OR reload it yourself.
If I may add to this great post………Back when Russian steel case ammo was much cheaper, I bought a lot of them. I've fired 7,000 rounds of Russian steel case ammo in 9mm (i.e., TulAmmo and Barnaul) in my G43 without any issue.
There was not perceivable damage or excessive wear on any part (e.g., barrel, extractor) when examined through a x30 magnifying loupe. Despite the popular misconception about the "steel case" ammo, the "steel" used for the case is very soft and thus it does not wear or break Glock's OEM extractor. So, based on my direct experience, I can attest that shooting several thousand rounds of it will not harm your Glock.
That being said, Russian steel case ammo in 9mm is relatively low quality, weak and dirty. It barely cycles your Glock but makes your Glock very dirty, so you would have to clean it more often.Today, if it is no longer substantially cheaper than other "range/practice" FMJ ammo, I see no reason for using it...
I have not run steel Case ammo through my weapons (other than 7.62 x 54 & 7.62 / 5.45 X 39 …..
As a former steel industry guy I can confirm that steel can be made in a wide range of hardness’s and malleabilities……. Everything from “dead soft” or deep drawing quality to extremely hard and abrasion resistant.
The steel used for casing is soft enough it should not damage your weapons,
I'm well over 150k of Wolf/Tula in 9mm, 40, & 45 in many different handguns. Only guns I own that do not like Wolf/Tula are my HK USP's. Maybe the sky will fall when I get to 200k round mark. Difficult to beat the price.
And Wolf is not made in Russia. It was made by PRVI for some time and IIRC now is made in Taiwan.
And Wolf is not made in Russia. It was made by PRVI for some time and IIRC now is made in Taiwan.
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Wolf Steel ammo is Hell on Extractors, Unless you wish to change out your extractor every month depending how much you shoot I will Pass on the wolf crap.
Incrementally dirty ….. yes
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Strange ive been running it for 10 ish years im not a HIGH volumes shooter. but i probably go through 700-1K a year .same extractor... its not the most accurate and it IS probably the dirtiest ive run though
At what point is Wolf going to harm an extractor? Sure hasn't been my experience (as stated before over 150k down the tube) in over a dozen Glock's, 6 P series Sigs, multiple semi custom 1911's, and on and on. It is actually more reliable than some brass cased brand name ammo. I've had horrible luck with Win white box in 9mm. It is not the cleanest but also not the dirtiest. It does have an amonia type smell to it. IME this stuff (subsonic for silencers) is the dirties I've ever used.
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I'd ask you why not use it? I personally don't care what anyone/everyone runs in their own weapons but the claims made of extractor issues just aren't substantiated by real-life IME anyway.
Not a reasonable statement at all. Do you have direct experience with this in your own guns?
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It's fine. I've fired tens of thousands of steel wolf rounds. No problem.
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And if he does unless he is shooting 10K a MONTH he needs a new extractor or gun brand...ive put a bunch of steel through my BCM and still going fine how ever many years later this is(2014 or 15 i think is when i got it) same ejector and 1/2-1/3 of its been steel
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But...but internet rumors used to say......
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GLOCK’S LIKE AK’S run everything. That said Steel cases tend to be hard on extractors. Yes, id shoot steel in a Glock, but not in any of my other guns, that’s just me.
I will also say, the range I’m at currently has been fielding TULMO steel cased ammo and what we have noticed are the HARD primers. Last weekend alone, we had a few FTF due to that issue. We were lucky when the primer popped, but failed to ignite the powder. We ejected the round and pulled the bullet, thinking there was no powder, but found the Case was fully charged. We were surprised it didn’t cause a squib.
So, it’s for the above, that I personally wouldn’t shoot Steel, especially if there are brass or nickel or even aluminum ammo available. That’s just my opinion.
I will also say, the range I’m at currently has been fielding TULMO steel cased ammo and what we have noticed are the HARD primers. Last weekend alone, we had a few FTF due to that issue. We were lucky when the primer popped, but failed to ignite the powder. We ejected the round and pulled the bullet, thinking there was no powder, but found the Case was fully charged. We were surprised it didn’t cause a squib.
So, it’s for the above, that I personally wouldn’t shoot Steel, especially if there are brass or nickel or even aluminum ammo available. That’s just my opinion.
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Isnt the lacquer tue water proof coating? Still wont buy it. Bought one box to try, dirty as all get out, no thx. Dont buy Russian poop, putting $$ in Putins pocket.
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1000rds a year isnt even a decent breakin period. You arent going to see wear. At 10k rds a year, steel on steel, i would bet some wear nut not enough to be a serious issue. Most people wont shoot 10k rds in the life of a pistol. I get it, ammo is expensive but thats why many of us that shoot 10k rds a year reload.
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I've shot thousands of Tula/Wolf through my 17 and 48.
Dirty (and sometimes weak), but the stuff ran fine. Puts holes in cardboard like other brands.
Dirty (and sometimes weak), but the stuff ran fine. Puts holes in cardboard like other brands.
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