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Thoughts on Wolf 9mm steel case ammunition
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Back when Russian steel case ammo was much cheaper, I bought a lot of them. I've fired 7,000 rounds of Russian steel case ammo in 9mm (i.e., TulAmmo and Barnaul) in my G43 without any issue.
There was not perceivable damage or excessive wear on any part (e.g., barrel, extractor) when examined through a x30 magnifying loupe. Despite the popular misconception about the "steel case" ammo, the "steel" used for the case is very soft and thus it does not wear or break Glock's OEM extractor. So, based on my direct experience, I can attest that shooting several thousand rounds of it will not harm your Glock.
That being said, Russian steel case ammo in 9mm is relatively low quality, weak and dirty. It barely cycles your Glock but makes your Glock very dirty, so you would have to clean it more often.
Today, if it is no longer substantially cheaper than other "range/practice" FMJ ammo, I see no reason for using it...
There was not perceivable damage or excessive wear on any part (e.g., barrel, extractor) when examined through a x30 magnifying loupe. Despite the popular misconception about the "steel case" ammo, the "steel" used for the case is very soft and thus it does not wear or break Glock's OEM extractor. So, based on my direct experience, I can attest that shooting several thousand rounds of it will not harm your Glock.
That being said, Russian steel case ammo in 9mm is relatively low quality, weak and dirty. It barely cycles your Glock but makes your Glock very dirty, so you would have to clean it more often.
Today, if it is no longer substantially cheaper than other "range/practice" FMJ ammo, I see no reason for using it...
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I’m not familiar with steal case ammo, from any manufacturer. I prefer quality ammo, from reputable manufacturers, at any rate. Wolf is not something I’d use, given a choice.
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Steel case is fine. It runs dirty, and is cheaper vs brass.
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they work fine.
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Fired a lot of STEEL case, but I have no experience using STEAL case.
Sounds like something a liberal would use.......
Sounds like something a liberal would use.......
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Used to shoot it all the time. I wish it was $8 a box of fifty Wal-Mart time again.
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Won't hurt your gun.
Not the best ammo, but if it's what you have it will work.
Not the best ammo, but if it's what you have it will work.
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If the bullets have bimetal jackets then no. Lucky Ammo was testing steel cased imported ammo vs domestic brass cased ammo. They found out the rifling in their barrels wore down twice as fast with the steel cased ammo because the jackets were bimetallic and contained steel in the jackets. If you save more than the cost of a new barrel, no problem. If the barrel cost more than you save, then no.
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It does use a dirtier powder than most, and because the case to chamber seal is poor, it does dirty things up.
Lucky Gunner tests were on 223 ammo with cut rifling. It does very little if any damage to a Glock polygonally rifled bore.
I still don't use it.
Lucky Gunner tests were on 223 ammo with cut rifling. It does very little if any damage to a Glock polygonally rifled bore.
I still don't use it.
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I would never purchase steel cased ammunition, unless maybe I had a worn out abused AK47… which I don’t.
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Wolf and steel ammo in general is fine, unless you have some finicky gun that can't run it. I've never had a problem with Wolf in a Glock and I have shot many many cases of Wolf through Glocks.
The only bad things I can say is I've seen claims that some rifles ie Knights, won't run on wolf and I have heard claims that with AR15s brass ammo may not fire reliably after extensive use of Wolf without a cleaning. Personally I have not seen that based on my experience, but I've heard it from reputable people who say they've had problems.
Most criticism of Wolf is from inexperienced shooters or people who haven't shot it. You used to see "I wouldn't put 87 octane in my Porsche" on the internet and then see guys shooting Wolf through registered machineguns that would these days cost as much as a porsche.
It's inexpensive blasting ammo and not as accurate as higher quality and more expensive ammo.
I did wear out an extractor on a Glock over many many cases of Wolf. I don't know how much longer it would have lasted with brass.
Now a days Russian/east european steel ammo doesn't seem to be as common. If you have access to it cheap, I'd grab it. I'd certainly buy wolf over US commercially reloaded ammo, which is probably a cost competitor. Often that stuff is junk. Probably most inexpensive brass ammo is better than Wolf, but I don't know, I haven't shot much pistol ammo lately and I don't know what ammo from places like Bosnia or where ever is like
The only bad things I can say is I've seen claims that some rifles ie Knights, won't run on wolf and I have heard claims that with AR15s brass ammo may not fire reliably after extensive use of Wolf without a cleaning. Personally I have not seen that based on my experience, but I've heard it from reputable people who say they've had problems.
Most criticism of Wolf is from inexperienced shooters or people who haven't shot it. You used to see "I wouldn't put 87 octane in my Porsche" on the internet and then see guys shooting Wolf through registered machineguns that would these days cost as much as a porsche.
It's inexpensive blasting ammo and not as accurate as higher quality and more expensive ammo.
I did wear out an extractor on a Glock over many many cases of Wolf. I don't know how much longer it would have lasted with brass.
Now a days Russian/east european steel ammo doesn't seem to be as common. If you have access to it cheap, I'd grab it. I'd certainly buy wolf over US commercially reloaded ammo, which is probably a cost competitor. Often that stuff is junk. Probably most inexpensive brass ammo is better than Wolf, but I don't know, I haven't shot much pistol ammo lately and I don't know what ammo from places like Bosnia or where ever is like
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