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30S vs 30SF

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#1 ·
Considering a 30S or 30SF. If I understand correctly, the S has a smaller slide and the SF has a smaller frame. Are the grips the same size as the 30? Which model conceals better for IWB? Thanks in advance!
 
#33 ·
Wow, thank you for all of the valuable input! I greatly appreciate it. I’m going to plan on going to the range and see what they have available for rent and shoot a few mags of ammo before I decide.

Curious if anyone has dropped in a threaded barrel and if so, what brand/model suppressor are you using? Thank you again everyone!
 
#31 · (Edited)
I get your frustration, but you keep describing things like the slide being too light, or the internal parts not working together as basic design flaws. When a lot of us have the exact same model running just fine. So those are not it, you have some specific part failure or some tolerance stack point of failure with in spec parts. It’s not complicated or magic.

Again your choice, but I’m betting if you called Glock Monday and firmly but politely explained “I’ve sent the gun back to you “x” times and it still does not work. I’m not paying anymore shipping or being without it anymore. I want a replacement, if you can’t authorize it, please forward me to someone who can.” It might end better for you.
 
#32 ·
I get your frustration, but you keep describing things like the slide being too light, or the internal parts not working together as basic design flaws. When a lot of us have the exact same model running just fine. So those are not it, you have some specific part failure or some tolerance stack point of failure with in spec parts. It’s not complicated or magic.

Again your choice, but I’m betting if you called Glock Monday and firmly but politely explained “I’ve sent the gun back to you “x” times and it still does not work. I’m not paying anymore shipping or being without it anymore. I want a replacement, if you can’t authorize it, please forward me to someone who can.”
I wont argue your points, i`m no expert, nore do i claim to be, so i`ll just leave it at that. My problem isnt what this thread is about anyway, so lets let the OP have their thread back. I just wanted to simply state, that not all G30 G30s guns are living in a perfect world. I dont think its fair to the OP not to know everything there is to know, good OR bad, about the G30 & G30s.
 
#26 ·
Mine runs great, but a sample of one of course means little. LAPD SIS has used them for years without issue though, so can’t imagine there is some basic issue with the design.

I know I would send it back to Glock (again?) instead of foisting it off on some unsuspecting buyer. If it has already been back twice, ask about a replacement, they might even allow a different model since it seems you have lost all confidence.

When did you buy it, and what is the serial number range?
 
#30 ·
Mine runs great, but a sample of one of course means little. LAPD SIS has used them for years without issue though, so can’t imagine there is some basic issue with the design.

I know I would send it back to Glock (again?) instead of foisting it off on some unsuspecting buyer. If it has already been back twice, ask about a replacement, they might even allow a different model since it seems you have lost all confidence.

When did you buy it, and what is the serial number range?
Yup, like what was done to me when i bought it. But that dosen`t seem to bother others that i was the one that got stuck with the lemon though, and the mothership just sends it back to me with the same problem. Am i frustrated, yes, but would i buy another glock, absolutely, just not a G30s.

As i`ve mentioned in other threads (i think?), my G30s will run a couple boxes of factory ammo (pick a brand) just perfectly fine, and then goes into stupid mode for some reason. I think its a combination of things upsetting this gun. IE; the gen-3 frame with gen-4 internals, faster cycling of the lighter G30s slide compared to the G30, but yet they both use identical RSA`s. My particular G30s dosen`t seem to take the pounding of factory +P SD carry ammo either. You can feel the slide pounding the frame, and very hard. Thats telling me that the slide is bottoming out, and i`m surly not the first person who has come across this issue. Ok, so now, did i buy a gun you can only shoot a few rounds thru until it goes bonkers, then clean it and put it away until the next range session? No, i bought it because my other glocks ARE trouble free, for thousands of rounds. This G30s, not so much.
 
#24 ·
Yes, several different times i`ve contacted them. They cant seem to fix it. I`m done with it. It will just sit in the back of my gun safe until i find something i like, and then i`ll trade it in. Sometimes ya get a good one, sometimes ya just get a bad one. But this 30S needs to get gone.

I would spend money and time with Glock to fix the issue, primarily to prove your point and remove the angst of the matter.
 
#27 ·
Normally Rocky, i would agree with you 100%, but after several trips to the mothership, i think its time to let the 30S go. I am disappointed that it didnt work out for the 30S for me, but it dosent detour me from buying another glock firearm, as i have SEVERAL nice glocks in my gunsafe and not have had any issues with the rest of my glocks that i couldnt readily fix on my own. I`ve read some good stuff in here on the G30, but i`m just not there with it just yet to buy one of those. I`m confident that it will all work out one way or another. Will it be another glock 45acp, well, that option is never off the table completely. Come monday, i`ll be out on the local scene checking out some other option in 45`s. Who knows, maybe a G30-4 might jump in my truck and ride home with me. Stranger things have happened...lol. Most of all though, thank you for your confidence and support AND advice...i really do appreciate it! ;)
 
#19 ·
Some of the 30S`s are runnin good, some aren`t. I`m not the only person (even in this forum) that has had nothing but trouble with the 30S. What i would like to know is, why hasn`t the 30S ever gone further than it has within glock, if its such a popular gun model. Why haven`t we ever seen it in a Gen4, let alone forget ever seeing it in a Gen5. My guess is, they know they have problems with the 30S, and wont ever bring it out in the Gen4 series... let it fade away if you will. But time will tell, and i`m tired of waiting for them to bring a new 30S out other than what they offer it in right now. Now don`t get me wrong here, i`m glad that those of you that claim yours is the holy grail, never a hiccup, awesome, i`m happy for you. I myself will likely walk away from the 30S platform and not look back until glock has one that isn`t a red headed stepchild full of problems.
 
#18 ·
As I’ve said in other threads; I’ve had (3) given (2) to Granddaughters and have retained (1). Have competed with the 30s out to 25 yards and can keep a 4” bull. The granddaughters 4” bull at 15 yards.

My retained 30s has some 2k rounds before I quite competing with this platform, which I’ve never had a problem.

Like I’ve also said before I was not aware others were having issues with their frames, apparently I’ve missed comment in the negative since 2013.

Hopefully those with issues will get positive resolutions.
 
#16 ·
Ive had my 30s for 3 years now. Ive put 2500 rounds through it without one failure or stoppage of any kind. Ive also never had any BTF with it. I still carry it occasionally in a CrossBreed Supertuck. Personally I prefer the 26/27 to EDC.

I also have a gen4 30 that was made in 2014. I need to shoot it more than I do. Im almost embarrased to admit that it only has 200 rounds through it. It just sits in the safe. I traded my dad a 36 for it. He liked the smaller 36 better for carrying. The 30 and 30s are both great guns and I wouldnt hestitate to get another one if the urge ever arose.
 
#9 · (Edited)
The G30SF frame of the G30S uses most of the same internal parts of a Gen4 G30. It is the same externally as a Gen4 G30 without backstrap, without Gen4 grip texture, and without the larger Magazine Catch and its right-side installation option.

The G36 slide of the G30S is lightened and less bulky because it is designed for 45ACP. It is not just a minimally-modified 10mm slide like that of a G30SF. No Gen4 45ACP pistol uses a slide specifically designed in size and weight for 45ACP, except the G41. The caliber-optimized design of the slide makes the G36, G30S, and G41 Glock's most attractive 45ACP pistols, IMO.
 
#4 ·
This concludes today’s lesson.

Very thorough information from he comments earlier. I bought a 30s a few years ago and have NEVER regretted the decision. It is my 1st choice for off duty year around.

The only suggestion I have is to peruse the GATE Self Defense forum for Mas’ insight on .45 ACP carry ammo.
 
#12 · (Edited)
This concludes today’s lesson.

Very thorough information from he comments earlier. I bought a 30s a few years ago and have NEVER regretted the decision. It is my 1st choice for off duty year around.

The only suggestion I have is to peruse the GATE Self Defense forum for Mas’ insight on .45 ACP carry ammo.
Lets ALSO discuss the problems with the G30S too. Which can ALSO be found in this very forum.
Apparently there were problems with some of the SF frames whether it was a G30s or a G30SF.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/glock-30s-jamming-issue.1729498/#post-27006002

If I got one of the problem guns I would send it back to Glock.

The G30s is about the biggest chunkiest Glock I would ever try to carry IWB. The regular G30 is like carrying a 2x4 inside the waistband. I think I would actually rather carry a G27 which is much smaller and less bulky and has similar ballistics if you compare 180 grain 40 to 185 grain 45.

I copied this picture from another post in this thread to show a size comparison between a G26 (Same size as a G27) and a G30s. And without the extended baseplate the G26 or G 27 would be much more concealable.

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#3 · (Edited)
The G30S is a Gen3 G30SF (10+1) receiver (post June, 2012 version) topped with a slimmer, lighter slide and barrel originally designed for the G36 single stack 45ACP pistol. The slide of the G30S, designed for the smaller outside diameter of a G36 barrel (thinner walls), will not accommodate the factory barrel from a G30 or G30SF 45ACP pistol.

The G30SF (Short Frame) receiver of the G30S differs slightly from the standard Gen3 G30 receiver in that the trigger reach distance of the SF grip is shorter by ~2-3mm measured from back strap to trigger.

The width of the G30S slide (1.003" ± 0.002") is 1/8 inch less than the G30/30SF slide (1.126" ± 0.002"). However, the width of the G30S grip, measured at the wide point 1/4" below the mag release, is the same as all other G30 models (32.50 mm or 1.28"). Therefore, only a modest improvement in concealability should be expected.

The G30S weighs 3.5 oz. less than the G30 Gen4, which is 11% less overall with a full 10-rnd mag. Many will appreciate the improved comfort due to the reduced weight when conceal carrying the G30S pistol for long periods of time. The overall weight and height of the pistol (grip+mag) can be reduced even further for easier concealment with the optional, 9-rnd flush fit factory mag available for the pistol. For comparison, the height of the grip+mag of the G30S with 9-rnd mag is 0.6" less than the height of the G19 9mm pistol.

The rest of my evaluation comparing these two pistol models in greater detail can be found in the GT post here >>> The New Glock 30S - Pros and Cons
 
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