I don't think Glock has stopped the Tennifer treatment. They still list it on their website as a feature of Glocks. I have heard that they do not use the same treatment on Glocks made in the US for export.

 

The tennifer is in the metal. Glock has not stopped useing the tennifer on glocks. The finish on gen4 is different but the actual tennifer is in the metal.

 

The tenifer is not a coating or finish it is a metal treatment. It is IN the metal, the black outside is simply a form of black powder coat.

They have changed that some over the years.

 

I don't think Glock has stopped the Tennifer treatment. They still list it on their website as a feature of Glocks. I have heard that they do not use the same treatment on Glocks made in the US for export.

Glocks website doesn't get updated much,may not be the most reliable information. Refer to this thread http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1386664 SJ 40

 

"Tenifer"

"Tenifer"

"Tenifer"

If you learn nothing else at least learn that.

 

Do a "Tenifer" search on Google. This will lead you to the Wikipedia website. And then, Wikipedia will show you an article site which is called "Ferritic nitrocarburizing" NOT Tenifer. Ferrtitic nitrocarburizing is the correct name! Not Tenifer! All Glocks get the Fertitic nitrocarburizing (Plasma-assisted) which reaches the same durability as the former salt bath Fertitic nitrocarburizing treatment. Tenifer is a Trademark, and it's not a finish.

Edit: this is a post which I posted earlier this week:

It's called Ferritic nitrocarburizing, (Plasma heating the metal). Tenifer is just a brand name. Glock has been using this kind of treatment since 2006. They had to change the "old" salt bath with cyanide in it, to the plasma system, because the Austrian environmental protection people started to jump on Glocks neck too.

It has still the same durability as the old method. You can find rusty Glocks in every generation, not only gen4's. The hardening and corrosion protection treatment no matter which kind, plasma or salt bath, reaches the same durability. This treatment does only two things: hardening and corrosion resistance. The reason why it becomes so extremely corrosion resistance is because the Ferritic nitrocarburizing process forms a Copper Patina like layer over the metal, this fine layer is actually black oxidation or rust which protects the metal underneath it. That's why copper lasts so long without corroding away, it protects it's self. The statue of liberty for example is made of copper which forms it's own green patina protection layer. Steel and many other metals can't do that.

The very fine and dense oxidation layer cuts of completely the oxygen and moisture transport to the bare metal underneath it. Of course there is always a small percentage of failures, not correctly done, etc. etc.

The old shiny finish was a mix of Teflon (Polytetrafluoroethylene) (PTFE) and automotive clear coat.

 

Do a "Tenifer" search on Google. This will lead you to the Wikipedia website. And then, Wikipedia will show you an article site which is called "Ferritic nitrocarburizing" NOT Tenifer. Ferrtitic nitrocarburizing is the correct name! Not Tenifer! All Glocks get the Fertitic nitrocarburizing (Plasma-assisted) which reaches the same durability as the former salt bath Fertitic nitrocarburizing treatment. Tenifer is a Trademark, and it's not a finish.

Edit: this is a post which I posted earlier this week:

It's called Ferritic nitrocarburizing, (Plasma heating the metal). Tenifer is just a brand name. Glock has been using this kind of treatment since 2006. They had to change the "old" salt bath with cyanide in it, to the plasma system, because the Austrian environmental protection people started to jump on Glocks neck also.

It has still the same durability as the old method. You can find rusty Glocks in every generation, not only gen4's. The hardening and corrosion protection treatment no matter which kind, plasma or salt bath, reaches the same durability. This treatment does only two things: hardening and corrosion resistance. The reason why it becomes so extremely corrosion resistance is because the Ferritic nitrocarburizing process forms a Copper Patina like layer over the metal, this fine layer is actually black oxidation or rust which protects the metal underneath it. That's why copper lasts so long without corroding away, it protects it's self. The statue of liberty for example is made of copper which forms it's own green patina protection layer. Steel and many other metals can't do that.

The very fine and dense oxidation layer cuts of completely the oxygen and moisture transport to the bare metal underneath it. Of course there is always a small percentage of failures, not correctly done, etc. etc.

The old shiny finish was a mix of Teflon (Polytetrafluoroethylene) (PTFE) and automotive clear coat.

If this doesn't answer the question, you're probably too sleepy to remember the subject, anyways :tongueout:

 

the black that you are looking at is the surface coat that goes over the metal after the "tenifer" treatment. There have been multiple changes in the Glock black coat over the years. This black coat can wear easily from carry and use. The "tenifer" will be unlikely to wear off.

This is the common confusion. "Nitriding" is the generic term for the metallurgical processes similar to "Tenifer", of which there are several, which result in the similar endpoint. The microscopic surface of the metal is made extremely hard, and wear resistant, while imparting a rust resistance close to stainless. It also contributes some to the "lubricity" of the metal surface (lower coefficient of friction), and thus less need for lubricant.

That is one of the unique features that Glock brought to the gun world, and is now widely imitated in the market (Springfield and SW (and Walther) also now treat their metals with a similar process).

 

I saw an '87 Dodge van that had been Tenifered, driving around town today. Wait, that coulda been Krylon.

As you were.

 

There should be a sticky on this subject so it doesn't have to be gone over a couple times a week.

 

I saw an '87 Dodge van that had been Tenifered, driving around town today. Wait, that coulda been Krylon.

As you were.

LOL! Ah yes the old krylon touch

 

There needs to be a Damn sticky on this subject..People that have been members here for years still dont get it..

 

There should be a sticky on this subject so it doesn't have to be gone over a couple times a week.

There should be about 30 stickies in here, but then we'd not have any new threads.

Back to GNG I go.....

 

They never stopped the Tennifer treatment. They only changed the finish. The two are not one in the same.

 

There needs to be a Damn sticky on this subject..People that have been members here for years still dont get it..

:agree::agree::agree:

 

Do a "Tenifer" search on Google. This will lead you to the Wikipedia website. And then, Wikipedia will show you an article site which is called "Ferritic nitrocarburizing" NOT Tenifer. Ferrtitic nitrocarburizing is the correct name! Not Tenifer! All Glocks get the Fertitic nitrocarburizing (Plasma-assisted) which reaches the same durability as the former salt bath Fertitic nitrocarburizing treatment. Tenifer is a Trademark, and it's not a finish.

Edit: this is a post which I posted earlier this week:

It's called Ferritic nitrocarburizing, (Plasma heating the metal). Tenifer is just a brand name. Glock has been using this kind of treatment since 2006. They had to change the "old" salt bath with cyanide in it, to the plasma system, because the Austrian environmental protection people started to jump on Glocks neck too.

It has still the same durability as the old method. You can find rusty Glocks in every generation, not only gen4's. The hardening and corrosion protection treatment no matter which kind, plasma or salt bath, reaches the same durability. This treatment does only two things: hardening and corrosion resistance. The reason why it becomes so extremely corrosion resistance is because the Ferritic nitrocarburizing process forms a Copper Patina like layer over the metal, this fine layer is actually black oxidation or rust which protects the metal underneath it. That's why copper lasts so long without corroding away, it protects it's self. The statue of liberty for example is made of copper which forms it's own green patina protection layer. Steel and many other metals can't do that.

The very fine and dense oxidation layer cuts of completely the oxygen and moisture transport to the bare metal underneath it. Of course there is always a small percentage of failures, not correctly done, etc. etc.

The old shiny finish was a mix of Teflon (Polytetrafluoroethylene) (PTFE) and automotive clear coat.

:goodpost:

 

I'm well aware of how Tenifer is applied and all that. However, there's one thing that continues to bother me. On the Glock website that actually gets updated (teamglock.com), there is no longer any mention of Tenifer. They used to list Tenifer as one of their "technologies". As of a few months ago, they changed it from Tenifer to "advanced surface treatments". I am a TOTAL Glock fanboy, and I pray they didn't change anything, but I find that awfully damning. Why would they all of a sudden quit using the word "Tenifer" if they didn't stop using it? To me, it looks like Glock quit using Tenifer. I truly hope I'm wrong.

 

I'm well aware of how Tenifer is applied and all that. However, there's one thing that continues to bother me. On the Glock website that actually gets updated (teamglock.com), there is no longer any mention of Tenifer. They used to list Tenifer as one of their "technologies". As of a few months ago, they changed it from Tenifer to "advanced surface treatments". I am a TOTAL Glock fanboy, and I pray they didn't change anything, but I find that awfully damning. Why would they all of a sudden quit using the word "Tenifer" if they didn't stop using it? To me, it looks like Glock quit using Tenifer. I truly hope I'm wrong.

Dont make me wash your mouth out with soap, 21!!! Only very bad boys say awful things like that!

 

I have a G22 I bought almost 3 years ago and a G23 from 6 months ago, and there is a difference between the 2 slides. The older one looks darker and has a little more shine, compared to the G23 that has a more matte finish.

 

Yes they did stop tenifer tx. Yes they did change the surface tx

They never stopped the Tennifer treatment. They only changed the finish. The two are not one in the same.

 

Do a "Tenifer" search on Google. This will lead you to the Wikipedia website. And then, Wikipedia will show you an article site which is called "Ferritic nitrocarburizing" NOT Tenifer. Ferrtitic nitrocarburizing is the correct name! Not Tenifer! All Glocks get the Fertitic nitrocarburizing (Plasma-assisted) which reaches the same durability as the former salt bath Fertitic nitrocarburizing treatment. Tenifer is a Trademark, and it's not a finish.

Edit: this is a post which I posted earlier this week:

It's called Ferritic nitrocarburizing, (Plasma heating the metal). Tenifer is just a brand name. Glock has been using this kind of treatment since 2006. They had to change the "old" salt bath with cyanide in it, to the plasma system, because the Austrian environmental protection people started to jump on Glocks neck too.

It has still the same durability as the old method. You can find rusty Glocks in every generation, not only gen4's. The hardening and corrosion protection treatment no matter which kind, plasma or salt bath, reaches the same durability. This treatment does only two things: hardening and corrosion resistance. The reason why it becomes so extremely corrosion resistance is because the Ferritic nitrocarburizing process forms a Copper Patina like layer over the metal, this fine layer is actually black oxidation or rust which protects the metal underneath it. That's why copper lasts so long without corroding away, it protects it's self. The statue of liberty for example is made of copper which forms it's own green patina protection layer. Steel and many other metals can't do that.

The very fine and dense oxidation layer cuts of completely the oxygen and moisture transport to the bare metal underneath it. Of course there is always a small percentage of failures, not correctly done, etc. etc.

The old shiny finish was a mix of Teflon (Polytetrafluoroethylene) (PTFE) and automotive clear coat.

Good posting. Thanks. Maybe this should be a sticky.

 

I'm well aware of how Tenifer is applied and all that. However, there's one thing that continues to bother me. On the Glock website that actually gets updated (teamglock.com), there is no longer any mention of Tenifer. They used to list Tenifer as one of their "technologies". As of a few months ago, they changed it from Tenifer to "advanced surface treatments". I am a TOTAL Glock fanboy, and I pray they didn't change anything, but I find that awfully damning. Why would they all of a sudden quit using the word "Tenifer" if they didn't stop using it? To me, it looks like Glock quit using Tenifer. I truly hope I'm wrong.

That would indeed explain the recent incedences of Glocks with rust problems that never occured in the past.

 

The old adage still holds true, "they don't make 'em like they used to!"

 

Also called Melonite in the U.S.

 

Do a "Tenifer" search on Google. This will lead you to the Wikipedia website. And then, Wikipedia will show you an article site which is called "Ferritic nitrocarburizing" NOT Tenifer. Ferrtitic nitrocarburizing is the correct name! Not Tenifer! All Glocks get the Fertitic nitrocarburizing (Plasma-assisted) which reaches the same durability as the former salt bath Fertitic nitrocarburizing treatment. Tenifer is a Trademark, and it's not a finish.

Edit: this is a post which I posted earlier this week:

It's called Ferritic nitrocarburizing, (Plasma heating the metal). Tenifer is just a brand name. Glock has been using this kind of treatment since 2006. They had to change the "old" salt bath with cyanide in it, to the plasma system, because the Austrian environmental protection people started to jump on Glocks neck too.

It has still the same durability as the old method. You can find rusty Glocks in every generation, not only gen4's. The hardening and corrosion protection treatment no matter which kind, plasma or salt bath, reaches the same durability. This treatment does only two things: hardening and corrosion resistance. The reason why it becomes so extremely corrosion resistance is because the Ferritic nitrocarburizing process forms a Copper Patina like layer over the metal, this fine layer is actually black oxidation or rust which protects the metal underneath it. That's why copper lasts so long without corroding away, it protects it's self. The statue of liberty for example is made of copper which forms it's own green patina protection layer. Steel and many other metals can't do that.

The very fine and dense oxidation layer cuts of completely the oxygen and moisture transport to the bare metal underneath it. Of course there is always a small percentage of failures, not correctly done, etc. etc.

The old shiny finish was a mix of Teflon (Polytetrafluoroethylene) (PTFE) and automotive clear coat.

If we lend credence to Made in Austria's statement, (we don't know his background or credentials), then his answer is, affirmative. Glock has discontinued the time proven salt bath, Tenifer heat treatment and have gone to a more environmentally friendly "plasma" heat treatment that doesn't carry the old "Tenifer" registered trademark.

Is the new treatment as good as the old one? Has Glock pulled the old switcharoo?

Points to ponder...

DB