In all honesty...good as Glocks are I doubt any will ever be considered as truly "collectable" or "rare". A truly desirable and collectable "plastic" gun is otherwise known as an oxy-moron. Sounds to me like you either need to perhaps "customize" your Glock with some Lonewolf aftermarket slides,etc. Or go for collecting some oddball or somewhat rare pistols such as the Steyr GB,HK VP70,etc. Unless youre shooting a 10mm Glock loaded with Doubletap, or you have a nice s/s Lonewolf longslide with some cool race cuts or something on that order, you're not going to get much attention from your Glock. If you really want some attention, get a S&W.500 or Chromed out Desert eagle .50 and skip to the chase.

 

Neo.....

Interesting post. I share your desire of "different" guns. Heck, I like "different" stuff in general.

I have three EDC GenIII G19's and carry them all from time to time. I shoot these in GSSF also.

The remainder of my Glock collection consists of perhaps what you are looking for. I have some of the below but not all. Nope, none are for sale.

Like many, an original GenI G19 is my holy grail. Good luck to both of us on that.

Suggestions:
There is currently a P9M marked full sized 9mm (G17) on GunBroker.

NIB examples of early production models are not that rare. All my Glocks are 9mm so I prefer the GenI 17 and GenII 19's for collecting. The early guns had "17" or "19" stamped in the trigger guard. The Austrian proof marks varied in location.

The old adjustable sights that hung off the rear of the gun are interesting.

The new production Austrian proofed are unusual. More to come?

Collect a complete set of OD 9mm's or any caliber of your choice.

The long slide series are of interest to many.

There are certainly many unusual features of Glocks to hone in on for your collection.

My best advice is to study here and any other place you can find with info on the early or unusual guns.

dan

 

You can still find them from time to time on gunbroker, Glock 17L "Brigada Antiterrorista" nitro proofs on the frame, slide, and barrel. Made in Austria stamped on the frame. There's none of that Glock INC. Smyrna GA on there. I myself am working on the police department issued glocks as well as the park ranger ones.

 

First, .45Super-Man, I THINK you missed one crucial aspect of my post, and it was most likely due to poor wording. I am not looking for a collectable gun worth money, and I am not looking for attention for the guns. What I am looking for is those neat little characteristics that make Glock A different from Glock B through Z. It's somewhat funny that you mention a 10mm Glock because I DO own a 2nd gen Glock 20. The Glock 20 was appealing to me because you don't see many 10mm guns, at least not when you look at the quantity of other calibers that get released. A Glock 31 is on the list of things to get, but those second gen Glock 31s are just so hard to find. But I'm getting away from the point; I want something that I personally find interesting in the gun. If I'm going to own a Sig, it might as well be a W.German Sig. Why? Not quality, but because W.Germany doesn't exist anymore. If I'm going to own a Beretta it might as well be an Italian made and proofed gun. Again, not because quality, but because I find it interesting that it has a dozen different stamps because of the different trade guilds in Italy and the fact that each one has to be inspected for export. Same thing transistions over to Glocks. Like I said, I'd rather have the inferrior example, like a single pin .40 cal gun, over the superior example simply because it's abnormal.

I hope that helps. Like I said, I know I'm a bit weird in this regard, and again, I know that 90% of the people are NOT going to understand why I need or want these features. It's just something that appeals to my particular mind. Same reason why I spend money with palindrom, sequential, or patterned serial numbers last. I'm not saying I won't use them, I will, they just appeal to me. Same is true for guns. I'm not looking for a safe queen to make me rich, I'm just looking for something that appeals to that quirky nature in me.

Second, SirDaniel, YES you hit it RIGHT on the head. That P9m Glock is EXACTLY the type of thing that I'm looking for. If I'm going to own a Gen 2 G17, it might as well be one that was not meant to be in the US.

NIB does appeal to me, but I won't waste money on it. I'd either be afraid to shoot it and be the person to deflower it, and it would be wasted money, or I'd shoot it and kick myself later for it. I know either way it wouldn't matter, but to me it would. I actually did have a chance to buy a DB serial 17L that was unfired NIB and I passed for that very reason.

The "17" and "19" stamp you mentioned got my interset but I can't find it anywhere on my first gen 17. Care to elaborate more on where I can find it? I can find the Austrian eagle and the Nitro smokeless powder proof on the barrel, slide, and frame, but not other markings on the frame outside of the Glock logo, patent number, and Glock Inc mark.

The Austrian proof marks, PD engraved slide, etc interest me, but there are just SO many that I couldn't pick myself to pick one in particular and I couldn't bring myself to buying EVERY single one I could unless I could seriously devote that type of money to it. It would have to be something unique among the bunch, like an LAPD or NYPD gun to REALLY get me to jump on it.

I hadn't thought about the OD framed guns. Not a bad idea. Do you (or anyone actually) have specific details about the production runs and numbers? I think the reason I hadn't given them much thought, and they would still be low on the list, is that anyone could walk into any dealer and just order them. Now if it was something they stopped making then it would definitely increase the personal cool factor.

I guess I am focussing more on odd guns because originally I wanted to try and get one of every gun in every generation. Not too hard of a 'life' goal if I keep my mind at it. It wasn't until I started to hear about all the little odd guns that I thought it would be a better use of my time and money to focus on just those that I found interesting. It was particularly when people started mentioning things like the single pin .40s, or the pre-upgrade guns, etc that I started to realize I could still get a collection going and still be eccentric while I did it. That's what REALLY pushed me to start finding all the bizarre variants.

I am still looking on my own and reading posts here on a regular basis, but I'm still intersted if anyone else has more to add. That P9m though, that's a really winner for me. If nothing else comes from this topic but that, then it will have been worth it. So thanks once again SirDaniel!

 

You can still find them from time to time on gunbroker, Glock 17L "Brigada Antiterrorista" nitro proofs on the frame, slide, and barrel. Made in Austria stamped on the frame. There's none of that Glock INC. Smyrna GA on there. I myself am working on the police department issued glocks as well as the park ranger ones.

I am kicking my butt for not grabbing one of those. Back when I had my C&R license I would get the fliers every month and there were two places that I knew of that had them listed EVERY time. I always thought, if they are selling them commercially then I have some time. Then one month they were gone from both places and have only seem them here and there. I'll need to go track one down. They were nothing more than an engraved 17L, right? Or was there more to them than that?

 

I don't think Glock should be where you're looking.

There were so many odd ball handguns built over the years. Glocks are about as dime a dozen as you can get.

 

http://stores.myglockdoc.com/Detail.bok?no=522

 

Apparently this is a much more complex thought to convey than I thought it would. Let me try and rephrase it in as few word as possible.

I like Glocks.
I want Glocks.
Weird > Average.
$$$ =/= Important.
Glock = Happy.
Odd Glock = Happier.

Ok, so maybe that isn't as funny as it was in my head, but the point still stands. I'm going to own a bunch of Glocks, as well as many other firearms as well. For the Glocks, if I am going to own them, might as well own something interesting. Not looking for a museum piece, or a masterpiece to my collection. Just Glocks that are out of the norm.

 

Apparently this is a much more complex thought to convey than I thought it would. Let me try and rephrase it in as few word as possible.

I like Glocks.
I want Glocks.
Weird > Average.
$$$ =/= Important.
Glock = Happy.
Odd Glock = Happier.

Ok, so maybe that isn't as funny as it was in my head, but the point still stands. I'm going to own a bunch of Glocks, as well as many other firearms as well. For the Glocks, if I am going to own them, might as well own something interesting. Not looking for a museum piece, or a masterpiece to my collection. Just Glocks that are out of the norm.

NeoWierd...obvious lack of reading comprehension skills in this thread. That, and several jumped to their own conclusions :upeyes:. Seemed pretty clear what you were asking for. In any case...sorry, I don't have any good information on unusual Glock variations for you. I've seen a number of Glocks with unusual markings over the years...presentation pieces, LE/PD dept. crests/stampings, and, as you mentioned first editions, event commemorations, etc. Glock's popularity leads to these "specials" from time-to-time, but don't have any leads for you at the moment.

 

Well a Glock 7 would be an obvious choice for the rarest.. Good luck finding it though..

 

Thanks TxGun, I'm glad some people are understanding what I'm saying. I get this sort of thing quite a bit actually, and sometimes I get the impression that the way I must sound in the average person's head is completely different from how I sound in my head as I type. It's good to know that's not the case...at least not all the time.

You planted a thought in my head; are there any other proofs or stamps besides the eagle crest and the the NPv proof? I remember seeing in a box on proofs (ALL firearm proofs, not just Glock proofs) and it said that the lower case V represented one location and there was at least one other letter that represented another location - the location being the place where the proofing happened. Do Glocks exhibit these multiply location proofs or is there just the NPv and that's it?

As for the Glock 7, I thought I found one in the sand ounce with a metal detector, but it turned out to be a pre-historic Byzantine clay pot and iron rod battery. Needless to say I was disapointed and smashed it to pieces.

I don't know why I hadn't thought about it, but I was just thinking....

Can a civilian buy the Red and Blue frame training Glocks? Also, do any of the 'country specific' Glock variants exhist in private hands in America?

 

No real major difference between the 17L and the Brigada. Just some engraving on the slide and a crest. As to your question about the proofs I have seen different variations of the NPv and symbols (different proof houses) If I remember correctly there's a section in the back of the "blue book" dedicated to proof marks and the proof houses they belong to. The red and blue ones are available for civilian purchase. There was one of each on gunbroker.

 

Look here http://glockfaq.com/rare.htm

 

Sorry NeoWeird, but I'm no expert on the things you are asking about. I'm a retired IT exec and work PT in a good friend's large gunshop so I get to see and handle a lot of guns...ours and the ones our customers bring in. As I said, I've seen a number of Glocks with special or unusual markings over the years....some factory, some after-sale by PDs, social organizations, etc. If I knew of anything right now, I'd let you know...but I don't. Beyond all that though, I'm just another shooter/collector. There are probably others here who have better insight into unusual Glock variations.

 

Ok, so here is my list as of right now:

Glock Practice Pistol
Glock Training Pistol
P9M
"Brigada Antiterrorista" 17L
G19 first generation
21 "2.5 Gen" frame
Single pin 22
24
25 & 28
Glock Defense Set
OD 17/19/26 set
PD markings
Various foreign Glocks

Now here's a question; what roll marks appeared on the first generation 17? I know the 17 was marked 17 and the 17L was marked 17L, but were there any other models, like the 17C, that were rollmarked on their slides with their models?

 

Well a Glock 7 would be an obvious choice for the rarest.. Good luck finding it though..

Yeah, it cost me a months salary.. BUT, boy was it worth it...

 

There was recently a Y2K commemorative on Gun Broker. That's probably going to be one of the better sources of marked guns. The single pins are going to be more difficult.

The G22 you mentioned as an example in your OP is impossible to find. If it has a factory .357 barrel, it will have a completely different number on it...a part number, I think I've heard? I supposed it could be possible to get an aftermarket barrel finished the same as a factory barrel and have the serial engraved, but that's not really the same thing.

There's a 1996 Olympics marked 17 FS here on GT, but it's a virgin and $800.

Other than that, I really don't have much for you. I've never paid that much attention to this sort of stuff, because not much of it interests me. There are a handful of PD marked guns that I wouldn't mind owning and one or two commemoratives, but that's about it.

 

I think the only place you will see the Gen1 G19 is in internet photos. I don't believe it is possible to actually obtain one. I read that Glock made them by cutting-down Gen1 G17 frames and adding the G19-sized slide and barrel. They were pre-production T&E samples/prototypes.

You could add the two-pin G32 (.357) to the list. I have one of those. It lacks the third pin in the locking block. Early production.

There was a 1996 Olympics Commemorative G17, Gen2. It came in a presentation case. Some were actually carried by LEO's assigned to the security team.

I have a G17 Gen 2 with "017" in the serial number. That's a keeper, but as "collectible" as I'm ever going to get with Glocks.

Enjoy your hobby!

 

I saw a Glock once and the slide was kind of....square. I thought that was highly unusual.

 

I share your interest in rarer GLOCKs.

Mine:
G17L - Mine is a 1st gen. The first G17L was supposedly DA000US, Mine is DA152US.
G17T - Blue Simunitions gun. A little harder to find, usually.
G19 - Mine is an early second gen cutaway.
G22P - Red Practice gun, Also, usually harder to find.

 

Get a class 3 and try to get your paws on an 18.

 

Don't forget the cutaway Glocks that are out there. Not much fun at the shooting range, but different anyway.

http://lundestudio.com/glocks.html

 

Wow, step away for a day and the posts shoot up a notch. Let me try to address the few new mentions.

To Jonm61, that was exactly my point with the theoretical G22 I described. Such a gun would not be a normal offering from Glock. Neither are quarters with a Washington on both sides, but they do exist. It was just be a rare sort of mistake. The type of thing that may go unnoticed until the day someone buys it and asks why the G31 they are buying has a '22' on the slide instead of a '31'. I was more asking if that sort of thing has ever happened on any scale that anyone knows of. As for the others, commemratives don't really do it for me. Like I said, intentionally making a bunch of guns with the intent on them being special kind of defeats the purpose of them being..."special".

AgentM79, is it just the G32 or is it all non-9mm 2nd gen guns that had the early production single pin frames? I remember seeing a picture somewhere of a G22 with single pin that was claimed to be "pre-production" and build on a G17 frame, similar in concept to the first gen G19 being built on a G17 frame. Never actually seen them in person though. Been keeping my eye out on auction sites and private forums but haven't seen anything in particular that caught my eye. Then again, it feels like I have to wade through 15 3rd gen Glocks just to see a 2nd or 1st gen Glock.

GSD17, as I mentioned before I have a first gen 17L (just not in my hands yet) that has the factory original ported barrel, which I'm hearning more and more is an uncommon thing to find. As for the others, where and how did you get them? I keep reading that they the T, P, and 25/28 are only available to LEOs. Does that mean Glock will send one to a FFL if a LEO orders it direct, or is it only to LEOs who have a letter on department letterhead that states they can get one for official duty use?

As for the Cutaways, I like the idea but I want to shoot my guns too. I think the cutaways and cast blue simulators will be the last of the Glocks to add to the collection.

So is my list relatively complete then in regards to abnormal Glocks?

 

Wow, step away for a day and the posts shoot up a notch. Let me try to address the few new mentions.

To Jonm61, that was exactly my point with the theoretical G22 I described. Such a gun would not be a normal offering from Glock. Neither are quarters with a Washington on both sides, but they do exist. It was just be a rare sort of mistake. The type of thing that may go unnoticed until the day someone buys it and asks why the G31 they are buying has a '22' on the slide instead of a '31'. I was more asking if that sort of thing has ever happened on any scale that anyone knows of. As for the others, commemratives don't really do it for me. Like I said, intentionally making a bunch of guns with the intent on them being special kind of defeats the purpose of them being..."special".

AgentM79, is it just the G32 or is it all non-9mm 2nd gen guns that had the early production single pin frames? I remember seeing a picture somewhere of a G22 with single pin that was claimed to be "pre-production" and build on a G17 frame, similar in concept to the first gen G19 being built on a G17 frame. Never actually seen them in person though. Been keeping my eye out on auction sites and private forums but haven't seen anything in particular that caught my eye. Then again, it feels like I have to wade through 15 3rd gen Glocks just to see a 2nd or 1st gen Glock.

GSD17, as I mentioned before I have a first gen 17L (just not in my hands yet) that has the factory original ported barrel, which I'm hearning more and more is an uncommon thing to find. As for the others, where and how did you get them? I keep reading that they the T, P, and 25/28 are only available to LEOs. Does that mean Glock will send one to a FFL if a LEO orders it direct, or is it only to LEOs who have a letter on department letterhead that states they can get one for official duty use?

As for the Cutaways, I like the idea but I want to shoot my guns too. I think the cutaways and cast blue simulators will be the last of the Glocks to add to the collection.

So is my list relatively complete then in regards to abnormal Glocks?

I forget which, but only the 25 or the 28 is even available to LEOs. The other is not.

As for the T's & P's, you will occasionally find them up for sale on an auction site, etc, but I don't recall ever seeing them anywhere else. The ones I've seen up for sale have been older ones.

 

I think you mentioned the glock 21 gen 2.5 frames and if there were others like it.
There are. I have a gen 2.5 glock 30, didn't think it was anything special. Maybe it's just .45's?