[PilatusTurbo]

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I knew you'd not disappoint!

@PilatusTurbo thanks for the party/post/limb.

I kind of want one because of all the ignorant hatred for it. Way to go out and get one. I sure hope they bring it out in 40S&W.

I'll be looking forward to your review. It would be cool if you had some light 115s and +P 147s to see if it runs both out of the box.

Thing is, this will short track to LE holsters quickly for many reasons. SIG losing market share, the recalls on Shadow Systems, and the polish off of Glock and Smith, seems like a great time to be Ruger and give LE what they have been asking for from them for the last 15+ years. Genius.

Agreed. I pretty much run all 115 gr everything. My JHPs are 115 gr Magtech and PMC, and they tend to run a little warm. Plenty of 115 gr FMJ ammo to test, too.

If I can get a box or two of 147 +P, I'll be on the look out for it. I know the old mantra of break it in with 124 NATO or hot ammo, but I don't abide by that, either. Any reputable gun should be able to run really any reputable factory ammo after a cleaning and a break in period of 250 rounds. It's better if it gets through the 250 break in and continues running without a hitch. Pretty much all my guns did it, this should damn well be able to, also.

 

[bac1023]

Congrats on your new Ruger

Looks to be the first one so far.

 

[DrewBone]

Yet another cheap Glock clone.

Its always hilarious here to see folks claim that Glock needs new innovations yet Glock’s design is copied continuously by other firearms manufacturers and upstart companies (generally quick to fail).

What makes it "cheap"? Are you inferring that it's of poor quality, or that it's inexpensive? If the latter, then you used the wrong word.

Anyway, it sounds as if you and Glock feel that Glock pistols don't need innovation; well, it appears that the firearm industry and firearm purchasers completely disagree with you both.

This new example from Ruger along with the SIG P320/P365 series with their serialized FCU units, offer what Glock can't; a design feature that allows its owner a multitude of different sized fairly inexpensive and unserialized polymer grip frames that can be used for different purposes at their leisure and without having to get an FFL involved via/a NICS check or pay a transfer fee (the only option you have with a Glock is to whittle your serialized frames down to "fit" your hand, and we've all seen the often failed results of such "creativity"), and they offer popular optic mounting options that don't require the use of adapter plates. That sir, is innovation. Such features are propelling these "other manufacturers..." past Glock at an increasingly hurried pace, costing Glock an increasing amount of lost revenue.

This "innovation" you're saying that isn't required, is kicking Glock's arse.

I see it down at my local gun and pawn shops that are heavy into firearm sales both new and used, particularly handguns. Here's the most common scenario reported by them both; a first time handgun owner buys a Glock because everyone told them to buy a Glock as their first handgun. They buy and shoot the Glock. Then while at the range they shoot their friend's SIG. Then they shoot their other friend's Walther. Then they go back to the gun/pawn shop where they bought the Glock and trade it in for a Walther. Then they buy a SIG. Then a Beretta. Then a 1911A1. Then a 357mag revolver. Then a semi auto in .22LR. Then a...

Yes, Glock's are reliable and simple. But with so many other options available to us that may not be as simple in design, but are just as reliable, just as accurate or better, offer what Glock refuses to, and are often proven to be a better value because they're less expensive, I'm grateful for whatever comes along, even if I myself have no current need or desire for such. I also have no strings attached to any one particular firearm manufacturer, so I'm never wearing self imposed blinders...

 

[FrankenGunBuilder]

What makes it "cheap"? Are you inferring that it's of poor quality, or that it's inexpensive? If the latter, then you used the wrong word.

Anyway, it sounds as if you and Glock feel that Glock pistols don't need innovation; well, it appears that the firearm industry and firearm purchasers completely disagree with you both.

This new example from Ruger along with the SIG P320/P365 series with their serialized FCU units, offer what Glock can't; a design feature that allows its owner a multitude of different sized fairly inexpensive and unserialized polymer grip frames that can be used for different purposes at their leisure and without having to get an FFL involved via/a NICS check or pay a transfer fee (the only option you have with a Glock is to whittle your serialized frames down to "fit" your hand, and we've all seen the often failed results of such "creativity"), and they offer popular optic mounting options that don't require the use of adapter plates. That sir, is innovation. Such features are propelling these "other manufacturers..." past Glock at an increasingly hurried pace, costing Glock an increasing amount of lost revenue.

This "innovation" you're saying that isn't required, is kicking Glock's arse.

I see it down at my local gun and pawn shops that are heavy into firearm sales both new and used, particularly handguns. Here's the most common scenario reported by them both; a first time handgun owner buys a Glock because everyone told them to buy a Glock as their first handgun. They buy and shoot the Glock. Then while at the range they shoot their friend's SIG. Then they shoot their other friend's Walther. Then they go back to the gun/pawn shop where they bought the Glock and trade it in for a Walther. Then they buy a SIG. Then a Beretta. Then a 1911A1. Then a 357mag revolver. Then a semi auto in .22LR. Then a...

Yes, Glock's are reliable and simple. But with so many other options available to us that may not be as simple in design, but are just as reliable, just as accurate or better, offer what Glock refuses to, and are often proven to be a better value because they're less expensive, I'm grateful for whatever comes along, even if I myself have no current need or desire for such. I also have no strings attached to any one particular firearm manufacturer, so I'm never wearing self imposed blinders...

Not going to defend Glock as I think they need to step outside of their lanes and produce more exciting products from the factory. Let me say this though, one can buy many different varieties of Glock clones with no serial numbers if you are willing to do some work and you can buy completed lowers for just about nothing these days that look amazing and work with Glock parts. Just plug in the lower parts and you have a complete frame and go shopping for the upper. Once you have the lower built, you can experiment with different slides/lengths, barrels/lengths, calibers, and you can completely customize with plug and play parts. The combinations are almost endless. I keep reading all these Glock owners saying I wish Glock would build this or build that but, if you can think of it, I can guarantee it is already out there, and someone has built it or can tell you how.

I, for one, have no interest in buying a complete gun to get the FCU and then turn around and buy a frame. If they start selling the FCU for cheap enough, around $100 may do it, then I'd jump on board if there was enough aftermarket support. As is, I would rather get a Glock clone and have a whole gun rather than moving an FCU around to different frames. Not appealing to me but I won't discount it is appealing to others as there is a market for Sig FCU's without the frame.

Who this may benefit is someone who can only have or want one gun. Maybe that's the market but, as is, I firmly believe they are too late to the game and have missed their mark even if it operates perfectly. Time will tell but, given sellers are already offering discounts, it is telling that the product was/is not a big hit, they made too many, and are scrambling to get them on the market and out of their warehouses.

 

[BCC73]

Great job on the write up.....hope it serves you well !!!!
Waiting for a full range report...well done sir

 

[MarkCO]

Well dang, I should have watched some of the gunnytubers first. Yeah, the RXM is probably better than a Glock or a SIG with some of the best of both. But yeah, looks like Genius, especially for less than $400.

 

[familyman357]

big sale on Dagger too,

I'll bet! This thing is going to eat PSA's lunch. Despite the $499 MSRP it's already at $399 street price. Once the excitement wears off a bit it'll probably go down a bit more. People will pay a little more for a gun from a "real" mainstream gun company like Ruger.

About the only substantive negative I foresee is the crummy finish. There's a photo on another forum where a guy put 225 rounds through his RXM in one outing. There already was visible holster wear on the slide edge and there were patches of finish missing from the slide stop lever and takedown pin.

 

[John_AZ]

I'll bet! This thing is going to eat PSA's lunch. Despite the $499 MSRP it's already at $399 street price. Once the excitement wears off a bit it'll probably go down a bit more. People will pay a little more for a gun from a "real" mainstream gun company like Ruger.

About the only substantive negative I foresee is the crummy finish. There's a photo on another forum where a guy put 225 rounds through his RXM in one outing. There already was visible holster wear on the slide edge and there were patches of finish missing from the slide stop lever and takedown pin.

Have you seen the finish on Glocks slide stop levers? I think all of mine are worn down to silver

The finish on the early 43’s and Gen 4’s were not known to hold up well to actual use either. My slides have a lot of wear, but no rust.

If the gun works and doesn’t become a rust bucket, they’ll be fine.

 

[bac1023]

I'll bet! This thing is going to eat PSA's lunch. Despite the $499 MSRP it's already at $399 street price. Once the excitement wears off a bit it'll probably go down a bit more. People will pay a little more for a gun from a "real" mainstream gun company like Ruger.

About the only substantive negative I foresee is the crummy finish. There's a photo on another forum where a guy put 225 rounds through his RXM in one outing. There already was visible holster wear on the slide edge and there were patches of finish missing from the slide stop lever and takedown pin.

Ruger is mainstream, but has always been generally priced below Glock and S&W, so I’m not surprised it’s less.

 

[familyman357]

Have you seen the finish on Glocks slide stop levers? I think all of mine are worn down to silver

The finish on the early 43’s and Gen 4’s were not known to hold up well to actual use either. My slides have a lot of wear, but no rust.

If the gun works and doesn’t become a rust bucket, they’ll be fine.

I forgot to add the slide lock too.

I'll let you decide. This was after one outing, 225 rounds fired:

 

[familyman357]

Ruger is mainstream, but has always been generally priced below Glock and S&W, so I’m not surprised it’s less.

Nobody is surprised it is priced less. The point is that for only about $50-$100 more you can get a pistol from a name brand instead of one known only to hobbyists. Perception-wise, it's the "safe" bet of the two.

 

[FrankenGunBuilder]

I'll bet! This thing is going to eat PSA's lunch. Despite the $499 MSRP it's already at $399 street price. Once the excitement wears off a bit it'll probably go down a bit more. People will pay a little more for a gun from a "real" mainstream gun company like Ruger.

About the only substantive negative I foresee is the crummy finish. There's a photo on another forum where a guy put 225 rounds through his RXM in one outing. There already was visible holster wear on the slide edge and there were patches of finish missing from the slide stop lever and takedown pin.

The only comparison I've seen with the PSA was that the PSA had a much higher quality/more comfortable grip. Don't think PSA has much to worry about, at least, not yet.

 

[Chip S.]

Guess we should be happy to have so many to chose from today. With prices to meet all budgets.
We will see who is still around in couple yrs.
If I were to be looking/buying, prob still go w/LE, Glock trade in.

Friend loves the smallest Dagger, so much he has like 5-6 of em. lol

 

[familyman357]

The only comparison I've seen with the PSA was that the PSA had a much higher quality/more comfortable grip. Don't think PSA has much to worry about, at least, not yet.

I think it's pretty safe to say that PSA considers the RXM to be an unwelcome development.

 

[PilatusTurbo]

Have you seen the finish on Glocks slide stop levers? I think all of mine are worn down to silver

The finish on the early 43’s and Gen 4’s were not known to hold up well to actual use either. My slides have a lot of wear, but no rust.

If the gun works and doesn’t become a rust bucket, they’ll be fine.

Yeah, finish wear, oh well. People complain about P365s and the mags rusting. Never happened to mine once. Glocks finish wear faster than many. S&W whatever they call it is the only finish I've seen that's just solid, but I'm not running and gunning or competing.

 

[PilatusTurbo]

I think it's pretty safe to say that PSA considers the RXM to be an unwelcome development.

Yeah, I did hold and point a dagger, and the grip was just still kinda fat. I didn't initially like the aesthetic of the RXM grip, but holding it, with the texture that is smooth feeling when you brush it, but locks when you grip sold me on the Magpul grip module. I do like Magpul stuff, for sure. My Ruger PC carbine is Magpul'd out, so is one of my carbines. All Magpul is as Gucci as I've ever gone on anything

 

[PilatusTurbo]

Well dang, I should have watched some of the gunnytubers first. Yeah, the RXM is probably better than a Glock or a SIG with some of the best of both. But yeah, looks like Genius, especially for less than $400.

I can't tell if you're being facetious, not that I care if you are. I do agree, that it brings more to the table than meets the eye. Ruger did ensure a big social media launch by getting them out to influencers, but no one seems to be crapping on it. Maybe there was an included cheque....... that's why I decided I'm gonna be an early adopter. I wanted to get in early, even if it goes south. If it goes south, the gun is done.

Gonna try to go tomorrow, but we have family friends over and we did the Hot Ones challenge with all 10 sauces. Feel like I got a belly full of whiskey and it's been years since I drank or felt like that.

 

[J_Rico]

Good on the OP for being willing to step first into the mine field.

Hope it runs great. Pretty curious about this. Looks like a lot of features packed in to a budget price.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

Looking forward to the upcoming issues and lack of factory support threads. 😎

 

[FrankenGunBuilder]

I think it's pretty safe to say that PSA considers the RXM to be an unwelcome development.

I'm sure all the competitors feel the same way when new guns in direct competition are released. Given the steep discounts we are already seeing off the initial retail price of the Ruger, maybe it will cause lower the prices on some of its competition? I'm all for that but, then again, I rarely buy whole guns.