[tercel89]

I just got a new M&P45 and its nice. It's firing control system seems like the XD action system that is what I describe as single action or fully cocked striker fired. The sear drops down when the trigger is pulled and the striker is released. Can any S&W owners help me out or give information ?

 

[Will Beararms]

Congrats

 

[hardluk1]

YOu got it , I carry a thumb safety model with a apex fss trigger kit upgrade . Humm , sort of a striker version of cocked and locked !!

 

[Grabbrass]

I just got a new M&P45 and its nice. It's firing control system seems like the XD action system that is what I describe as single action or fully cocked striker fired. The sear drops down when the trigger is pulled and the striker is released. Can any S&W owners help me out or give information ?

I've asked that kind of question before too, OP. And as far as I know, S&W M&P, Springfield XD, Walther PPQ, HK VP, Sig P320, CZ P10 are all fully-cocked actions. Not sure about Beretta APX.

I know the firing pin block (drop safety) is there. Doesn't change that they're all single-action pistols without manual safeties (or in some cases, they are offered with optional manual safeties).

One other I know besides Glock that only partly cocks the striker is Kahr. The Kahr's trigger stroke is close to full double-action, but the trigger doesn't reset without the slide cycling.

YOu got it , I carry a thumb safety model with a apex fss trigger kit upgrade . Humm , sort of a striker version of cocked and locked !!

Does Smith's manual safety on the M&P block the trigger, or the striker? I expect the answer is that it blocks the trigger, but just curious.

 

[tercel89]

This S&W 45 is a keeper so I did some sanding on the aggressive texture. After the sanding , its just a smooth as the Glock Gen 3 that I like ! I'm happy !

 

[TexasPOff]

Your correct, it is essentially a single action trigger system. The striker is fully cocked with each cycle of the slide. The trigger bar actuates the sear, which in turn releases the striker, and the cycle repeats itself.


TXPO

 

[TexasPOff]

I've asked that kind of question before too, OP. And as far as I know, S&W M&P, Springfield XD, Walther PPQ, HK VP, Sig P320, CZ P10 are all fully-cocked actions. Not sure about Beretta APX.

I know the firing pin block (drop safety) is there. Doesn't change that they're all single-action pistols without manual safeties (or in some cases, they are offered with optional manual safeties).

One other I know besides Glock that only partly cocks the striker is Kahr. The Kahr's trigger stroke is close to full double-action, but the trigger doesn't reset without the slide cycling.




Does Smith's manual safety on the M&P block the trigger, or the striker? I expect the answer is that it blocks the trigger, but just curious.

The safety blocks the trigger bars rearward movement. It doesn't have any effect on the sear.

Yes the APX is a fully cocked striker as well. Currently, the Glock, FNS, and CZ P-10 are the only poly guns I am familiar with that complete cocking of the striker with rearward trigger movement.


TXPO

 

[Grabbrass]

.... Currently, the Glock, FNS, and CZ P-10 are the only poly guns I am familiar with that complete cocking of the striker with rearward trigger movement.


TXPO

D/n know that about the CZ. Thanks. :thumbsup:

Don't forget Kahr (I mentioned above).

 

[hardluk1]

tercel89 . To bad you don't try a couple hundred rounds to be sure you feel the textures to aggressive before sanding . My wife got to try 9mm compact 2.0 a couple weeks back and said she liked the texture but did not want to go threw the trigger upgrades and testing again but she is spoil with the apex triggered m&p's and her 1911 .

Fully cocked would be an XD . Glocks are not fully cocked , maybe 60% , check out the video of cutaway glock . Hoped it would be to find others !!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pThsdG0FNdc

 

[hardluk1]

M&Ps , XD striker fired are fully cocked , sig states partially tensioned but what percentage that is maybe ?? . If others find real info post it .

 

[TexasPOff]

M&Ps , XD striker fired are fully cocked , sig states partially tensioned but what percentage that is maybe ?? . If others find real info post it .

Sig can state what they want, but according to our instructor in the armory course, the 320 is fully cocked.

The sear simply moves downward releasing the striker. There is no rearward movement of the sear assembly. It has a solid pin running through it at a fixed position within the fire control assembly.

The sear rotates around the pivot moving up and down like a seasaw. It is designed exactly like the M&P, XD etc.


TXPO