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The RMSC Shield is a direct fit, and they are decent. I would avoid the Romeo Zero that is also a direct fit; they are inexpensive and you get what you pay for.
I had a 507k and filed the bosses on the slide for a direct fit. I never regretted it. Now I run a EPS Carry that comes with the plate. You do have to shorten one of the screws. It’s super easy to do though.

Thanks for your reply. The RMSC may be the one, though more expensive than the Holosun. I like that there is no adapter plate needed, it’s notched for co-witnessing so I don’t have to buy taller iron sights or go without. But the one thing that may push it past the finish line is that, for a $20 up charge (I think that’s the difference) it comes as a FDE option which would go with my 48 FDE. It seems like, for the 507k, that the CHPWS plate is a little slimmer than the DPP, but costs $50. The additional $50 for the RMSC isn’t that much more.

Assuming I go with the RMSC- I’m a bit concerned which MOS option I should go with, 4 MOA or 8 MOA?
The Holosun is more ideal with a small MOA plus a recticle. Any thoughts or suggestions? The only handgun RD I’ve ever held in my hands is the Holosun. And to be honest, I was only toying with the idea… until today at the range at 40 feet the iron sights weren’t so fun. My vision is getting wonky due to medication and I thought it was time to put the RD consideration on the front burner.

 

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I’ve ran everything from 2.5 MOA to the 32 MOA reticle. I believe 6 MOA is my favorite and especially if 25 yards is the furthest shot you plan to take. For bullseye or long distance shots the 2.5 to 4 MOA is preferred. I will go as far as to say that I think I can shoot as well with a 6 MOA as I can a 2 MOA, or at least within 25 yards. I still feel pretty confident at 40 yards with the 6MOA.
You will have to remove the RMSC Shield once a year to replace the battery. A lot of people run Holosun just for that reason. It had a battery tray that does not require the removal of the optic and a test fire or re-zero.
I run Holosuns mostly because I need the sharper image the green reticle gives me over the red.

Good to know. Tell me about the green dot and how you think the green is "sharper" than the red? Are you using a plate? Which one and how much does it lift the Holosun off the slide compared to a no-adapter RD? Thanks

The Swampfox Sentinel is also a direct, no plate fit.

I wasn't aware of this one. I'll have to look it up. Thanks.

 

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The Vortex CCW should be a direct fit too. It’s relatively new so there isn’t much out on the durability. I have heard some concerns about battery life.
A lot of us with astigmatisms find the green reticles have a more defined border.

Thanks for bringing Vortex to my attention. Same price as 407k but fugly.

If I go with the Holosun I have a mind to pay up for the green dot. I know a lot of guys who use laser sights prefer the green laser.

Come to think of it- and funny, I just remembered that I have a laser on my 43x TLR-6 and it’s pretty accurate. I also forgot about it because I have disabled it because the local idiocracy has banned laser sighting devices. At this point I don’t even know what legal at this moment after JB Putzker and Illinois’ woke AG Kwame have gone on a gun grabbing tirade.

 

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EPS Carry with milled posts is the way to go.


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What is “EPS carry”?

 

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If you don't want to spend a lot there is a Riton red dot that direct mounts and I see it online usually for $99.99.
I have one on my 48 MOS but I have yet to try it out.

RITON OPTICS X3 TACTIX MPRD V2 MICRO RED DOT

RITON OPTICS X3 TACTIX MPRD V2 MICRO RED DOT

www.cdnnsports.com

Let me know when you try it.

 

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I'm closing in on selecting a red dot, but I'm trying to work through my final selection(s) in my head.
At this moment I'm thinking Holosun. While I like the 2 MOA+32 recticle of the 507k, the 407k comes in FDE and would look great on my FDE 48 MOS. But it does not have a green dot option. But the 407k is $225 plus plate, but at a later date I can mill the slide and ditch the plate if I take to it. (Same thing with the 507). So price and FDE are the pros on this one. Will I miss the 2moa + 32 recticle?

If I go with the 507k which only comes in black, is there an advantage to paying up for the GREEN dot? 507k black is $295 w red dot. Green dot is $320, $25 more.

Plate options: DPP for around $26 or CHPWS at $58. Can anyone tell me what the actual measured thickness of the CHPWS? The DPP is more returnable if I buy it on Amazon.

Lastly, I haven't given up on the EPS Carry, but just started investigating it. EPS Carry red dot 6MOA $329. Green dot 6moa $344. Considering it is a 6MOA dot like the 407k, it's also over $100 more, and $120 more if I want a green dot.

Perhaps I can set up the question a different way... 1) Because the 407k comes with matching FDE that would blend with my 48 MOS FDE and is prices at $225, what would the 6mos only be a great sacrifice over the 507k's multiple dot options? 2) What is the difference in thickness between the DPP plate and the CHPWS one and is the CHPWS worth the extra $26?
3) What does it cost to mill the lugs off the MOS to be able to uses these RD's without a plate?
4) Taking money out of the equation, what is the advantage of paying up and going with the EPS Carry?

Thanks in advance for helping me sort through this.

 

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@Hydra-SHOKz
Thank you so much for all that information. It's a lot to digest, but you've provided me with almost all the information I needed. As I might have said, I've been dancing around getting a red dot, and am curious. I did some more research and the one thing that seems appealing is that the dot is lower in the window than the others. I know you said that the EPS carry comes with the adapter plate, but nowhere, even on the Holosun website does it indicate this. See snapshot from Holosun website below indicating that all that comes with it is a tool, lens cloth and manual. If I was certain that the EPS Carry came with the plate, that would bring me closer in price and I'd probably pay up for it and ignore that it comes only in black.

It's kind of interesting how, with the EPS Carry, the MRS sighting add $70 to the price over a 6 or 2 MOA- $400, while the 507k X2 with MRS is only $295. I guess that makes sense because the 407k is $70 less than the 507k.
Right now I'm sort of leaning toward the 407k in FDE, mostly because of the cost, but also the FDE version which isn't available in the 507k. Call me crazy- or obsessive with visual details, but my career was in commercial photography and graphics and the black over FDE 48 just doesn't feel right when I know an FDE version , even though I know that it's "just a gun". Also, the 407k fits my budget as I just sold something that would cover the expense. I know the 2 MOA dot with the 32 MOA recticle is really great (on the 507).

Can someone please confirm that the EPS carry DOES come with the adapter plate included (or not)? Some folks are saying yes, but the Holosun website indicates that only the RD, a cleaning cloth and the manual is in the box!

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For #3 a file will do.
Another easy fix is to get an aftermarket slide that is cut for the red dot that you want to use.

Good suggestions. But I don't want to spend any more money on this as II would buy one more out of curiousity rather than needs. With that said, I don't like "buying stuff twiice". I alrready did that on one set of iron sights that I ended up hating. As far as cutting off the lugs, that isn't out of the question, at least down the road. If I like a RD that requires a plate I can always diitch the plate down the road. I'm just not ready for that yet.

In my mind I don't want to spend more than $300 but don't want to close my eyes to anything yet, but start to think "wait a minute" when the price for this little gadget starts getting near $350 OTD. I'm not sure that I'm even going to love a RD without putting many rounds down range with it.

 

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There is a lot to ponder and a pretty good price range from Riton (not first in the running) to Holosun 407k to EPS Carry (red or green, probably 6MOA).
I've decided to take a "bass-ackwards" approach to this.

I've started by ordering the DPP plate for $26, without ordering any red dot yet. The plate comes with the torx tool which I don't have to even open the top of the 48.
Having the plate in my hands will allow me to see how much lift it will provide. I know that the CHPWS one is "the standard", but it's $57 ($64 w/ tax). I'm definitely not going to go with that one considering what others report to be minor differences between it and the DPP.
I watched a few videos and think it is reasonable at some point, maybe soon, maybe immediately, for me to grind off the lugs, but I want to study the best way to do it and will need to do it at a buddy's house as I don't have a vice or useable workbench here. I can within a reasonable time return the plate for a refund. And I never expect to sell my 48, so modifying that part isn't really an issue should I decide that's the route to go.

And having, potentially, knocked off $26-$57 for the plate, would I then feel that the OTD price of the EPS Carry is a comfortable expenditure, not knowing yet that I'd even really like a red dot? I don't know. But now I have a lot of choices. I like the idea of the FDE color to match my 48. But then I did a mock up, and not quite as hepped up on the matching color as I thought. I know i didn't match the color of the FDE well, but then I won't know what shade the RD would come in. Hmmm. I really like the MRS feature. Green dot? Then it puts me in the same price as the EPS carry 6MOA.
As I said, I don't want to buy this gadget twice. I've got a set of TruGlo TFX Pro sights in the bin that I disliked from day 1.

Any other thoughts?

 

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Update: It’s done
Everything fell into place and I got knocked off the fence. I have given up on the FDE color and decided that i wanted the MRS of the 507k. I had ordered the adapter knowing I would need something to mount most of the several candidates. It came this morning.

My buddy was as the LGS this morning and knows the owner and got a few $$ off, which essentially paid for most of the adapter. So I had the RD in my hands in minutes. Just enough time to mount ir and read the instructions. I guess range time will happen tomorrow. I’ll decide in a couple of days if I will mill the lugs and return the adapter plate

 

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My $500 G19 will become an $11 G19. Its the way it is. Do it right.

No entiendo. What do you mean exactly?

 

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I’m just glad that that mental torment is over. After mounting the sight and getting a rough zero I spent some time modding my holster. Range bag is packed and ready to go!

 

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Update...
It was really hard, as a red dot newbie, to know what I liked and wanted in terms of dots and reticles etc. I went with the 507k largely because of the MRS options. The MRS was certainly the deciding factor and eliminates almost all the other options. I think that was a mistake.

After three range trips and some dry fire with the 507 I discovered that the 32MOA reticle isn't great for me. I have medicinally induced shaky hands and the reticle looks like its vibrating. and I now have it set for 2 MOA and find the simple dot less visually distracting. I suppose for closer distance SD the reticle would be helpful. But general shooting, in my hands, it's a distraction.
Had I known I know now through experience I would paid up for and purchased the EPS Carry 6 MOA for the enclosed emitter. Or upon thinking about it, I could have saved some money with the 407k. The 507k is decent enough. Live and learn.

BTW... Can anyone tell me how thick the C+H Precision Optics Adapter Plate is?

 

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I made that same mistake so you're not alone. I thought the donut of death was what I wanted but now I just run between a 2 and 5 MOA dot depending on the optic. You can always make a dot bigger by increasing brightness.

I never thought of brightness contributing the perceived size of the dot.
I have grown to prefer the "figure 8" sight setup and have Ameriglo i-Dot sights on my 48 and I can still see the front and the dot in the rear. I'm doing to learn to acquire the dot to is present as I would for iron sights and that will bring the red dot into view. Before I started doing this the dot was all over the place before I could find it.

I would have prefered to go without a plate to make the iron sights more visible and stay closer to the bore axis, but I didn't want to take a chance of messing the slide up.