Hickok likes everything.

 

True but he really, really liked the PDP trigger. Especially the reset. I did see him sort of knock a pistol. A P365 SAS. He didn't care for the sight setup.

 

IMO, the PDP has an excellent trigger out of the box. I have the 5" compact and adore it, looks (very subjective), ergo's and trigger.

 

I heard that so much I was underwhelmed when I tried one. Probably because of expectation. It feels like … a striker trigger. Much like the PPQ.

 

Is the PDP that good?

 

I had a PPQ M2 45 I liked very much but have gone away from 45 cal.

 

Hickock likes everything. He's a paid promoter not a reviewer,

That said, my buddy has a PDP and I agree, the trigger is very good.

 

Try the trigger on a PDP and you'll understand. It's that good. Now if Walther could put that trigger into something more slender, I'd buy it. The PDP is too fat for CCW - for me anyway.

 

Hickok ain't wrong with his assessment. The PDP really does have a nice trigger and it is a very ergonomic firearm. Not expensive either.

I never gave the bore axis on my PDP a second (or first) thought. The gun shoots well, is accurate, and comfortable to hold. I find the mag release to be easy to manipulate too.

 

I never gave the bore axis on my PDP a second (or first) thought. The gun shoots well, is accurate, and comfortable to hold. I find the mag release to be easy to manipulate too.

A lower bore axis gun just points better for me. I don’t mind a high bore on a hammer fired target pistol. On a striker, it just seems unnecessary.

 

…Especially the reset but felt it was light for carrying…

On this, the PDP is pretty big for a carry pistol. I carry a 19, used to carry a 17 daily, and have carried 20s and 1911s. Even the compact PDPs are on the bigger end of those guns in terms on height and thickness. It’s a little hard to visualize until you actually compare a 4” PDP compact to a 19, but it’s a significantly bigger pistol and the grip angle is waaaay different. I’d not personally use one for concealed carry.

That said, I think they’re excellent pistols that are well made and should give years of service. A guy could conceal them, but it would take a bit more planning than even, say, a 17.

 

I like smaller pistols and would be very interested in a PDP sub-compact. They had a PPQ SC. I'm surprised not one for the PDP.

 

I’ll be glad when the MOS fad is over. It’s sad seeing a nice pistol, like a PDP, ruined by the MOS plate.

 

I'm not a fan at all but it's here to stay.

 

They did some magic with the PDP. The trigger is great the upgraded one in the pro looks to be insanely good.
The slide is very light weight even with an optic. You would expect a higher bore axis gun to have more recoil but the grip does a phenomenal job of mitigating it. I fit the compact very well and engaging the pinky is super easy. You find the dot quickly after each shot even with a more traditional grip angle.
I shoot my Steyr’s faster and quite accurately and the PDP is a very close second despite being quite opposite in design.

 

I agree with Hikock45. I have a Walther PPQ M1 which has excellent trigger for striker fired combat style pistol, very accurate, and supremely reliable but I personally at 71 I find the trigger too light for self defense purposes. I carry either my Gen 2 Glock 19 and M1 Walther PPS both of which have a trigger pull just over 6 pounds which I find perfect for that role. I have read that Walther supposedly has a spring available that can make the trigger pull a couple pounds heavier? But I have not contacted them yet. No doubt though that the trend in most self defense striker fired pistols is for lighter triggers as they are easier for most to be accurate with. The Walther P99 was unique in that is has a DA/SA type striker fired pistol but Walther is discontinuing it probably because it does not sell well.

 

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The PDP trigger and especially the F-series PDP is nothing short of amazing out of the box. It borrows some feeling from the PPQ on the F-series and I love that firearm. I have three PDP's in different configurations and the third one is the F-series. I also own two PPQ's but those are a different animal but nearly the same trigger. It flat rocks the Glock in every way. But I love my Glock's and enjoy upgrading them and doing modifications. I am a Glock Advanced armorer now, but the PDP is no joke and pretty much every single YouTuber start feels the same. Go watch the F-series video that Colion Noir put out. Glock has fallen back so far; it isn't even funny. But thank God for the aftermarket items and upgrades. The new Glock Performance trigger is not even that great, but once I receive Johnny Glock's VEX shoe and start testing then I will see. But I am already having to modify a new "Performance trigger," just to make it "Good, not great." But Walther, Canik, CZ, pretty much any 1911/2011 all will run circles around the Glock. But I love Glock and everything I can to with them. A Glock 19 was my first firearm bought 25 years ago and I will always be married to Glock. Wish Glock would come out with a Gen 6 that blows everyone's socks off.

 

Hickok needs to try a Strike One Ergal if he wants to feel how nice a striker trigger can be

 

He's only got a deer skin cover on his shooting bench. Maybe he'll get an immaculate beige cover for it soon to appreciate finer guns.

 

The Canik Mette trigger is nicer, IMO.

 

Looking forward to the Canik mete mc9. Should have the same trigger.

 

Red dots - yep, here to stay. Especially when you consider the all the baby boomers and their aging eyes. I've never used one but would like to try one.

The PDP - I'm going to have to rent one at the range to see how great that grip and trigger are.

Hickok's shooting gallery - I'd love to have that backyard! Of course I wouldn't want to live next door to it.

 

I have a 5" PDP. I don't need an old blowhard to tell me the trigger is pretty decent for a striker fired gun.

It's still crap compared to a good gun like a DA/SA CZ or TS, or a 2011.

 

Yes, which is why I never understood gushing over polymer striker fired triggers.

 

I don't know. My Shadow 2 doesn't blow away my PPQ, Q5s, or Q5 SF for reset. "normal" CZs that aren't starting at a grand have terrible resets.

My Sig P226 with SRT is in a different galaxy for reset compared to my Shadow 2 and Walthers.

The PPQ and up all use the same guts. So besides the Walther Dynamic Trigger, there is no difference between PPQs and all the Q5s.

The weight pull is controlled by a $4 spring from Sprinco. Buy the competition "red" return spring and you'll see something approaching true competition weight.

 

Remember, the Canik sear housing (what they call ejector module) is 100% a copy of the Walther. Since it's a copy, Canik can't by magic having a better trigger. So how can it be better feeling than the Walther? Firing pin block spring.

I guarantee the Rival/Mete with the claimed "better" feel trigger is 100% because Canik's copy of the Walther sear housing uses a lighter firing pin block spring. That's why Canik had the Severe Duty recall that only changed the firing pin block spring starting in 2019 but still live on their website. Someone could easily prove is that the FPBS on a Canik is lighter than a Walther PPQ, Q, or PDP, I just know I don't have the tools to measure it.

Since the Walther PPQ that the Canik is proven trip the sear at a hard hit at the back (why Canik states the recall happened), I don't know if Canik is accepting some level of danger or they found the exact right sauce for safety that Walther will not update in their FPBS.

I don't doubt the Rival has a better feel, but since the return spring is 100% interchangeable by the Walther and Canik (Springco/Overwatch 2 "red" and "green" springs are marked Canik and Walther) and they share the same design trigger bar that carries over P99 function, it's the FBPS without question that is the difference in "feel." The return spring is what controls the weight.

Because of the Walther sear design in the PPQ can be trip and because the gun doesn't fire thanks to the FPB...either Canik is perfection for weight or there is a cost for drop test that they publicly failed before.