I kind of doubt the "official" story. What assassin leaves his rifle behind- wrapped in a towel.....??
And the "engraved ammo" story is ,well, pretty suspect.
Here we go again.
RIP Charlie.

 

I kind of doubt the "official" story. What assassin leaves his rifle behind- wrapped in a towel.....??

Ummm... the kind that doesn't want to be spotted running around with a rifle after shooting a high profile public figure.

Police Officer: "Hmmmm, I wonder if that dude running around with that rifle has anything to do with this? Nawwww, that's pretty far fetched."

 

Public hanging not life sentence

 

Utah still has the death penalty and also death by firing squad.

 

It's obviously a 30 clip automatic assault weapon.

 

With the shoulder thing that goes up.

 

Just a sporterized Mauser to me. With some kind of Chineseium optic.

 

Sported Mauser,, a lot like the gun my dad used from 1952- 2010.. he built it himself with an FN barreled action.. very sweet, smooth action.. More accurate than most of us could shoot. Though one of my brothers shot one inch groups at a hundred yards with it, iron sights..
I remember seeing ‘98 Mauser for sale, $18, pre 1968… There has to be tens of thousands of them in closets all over this country..

 

Probably a similar rifle in every home around there. That is elk country.

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy?

Until I see something that doesn't make sense, I'm going with the obvious answer.
Leftist nutjob does leftist nutjob sh1t.

 

It's sad to think a $300 drone to watch rooftops would have stopped this.

 

was my first question
isn't security 101, have a lookout at the highest view point ?
so he took the gun apart, jumped off roof, then put it back together ?

 

And that makes me think the nutjob got it at a pawnshop or.. it's daddy's rifle.

 

I kind of doubt the "official" story. What assassin leaves his rifle behind- wrapped in a towel.....??
And the "engraved ammo" story is ,well, pretty suspect.
Here we go again.
RIP Charlie.

I kind of doubt the "official" story. What assassin leaves his rifle behind- wrapped in a towel.....??
And the "engraved ammo" story is ,well, pretty suspect.
Here we go again.
RIP Charlie.

Kinda hard to run for a vehicle near a college csmpus carrying a rifle right after a shooting. Being seen with it would add witnesses. Something a shooter doesn’t want.
Being caught with the murder weapon seals his fate.
Lots of killers ditch the murder weapon quickly so they won’t be caught with it.

 

Kinda hard to run for a vehicle near a college csmpus carrying a rifle right after a shooting. Being seen with it would add witnesses. Something a shooter doesn’t want.
Being caught with the murder weapon seals his fate.
Lots of killers ditch the murder weapon quickly so they won’t be caught with it.

But I bet he forgot to wipe down the back of the stock... left his palm print. Wipe the forend and grip... but not the back of the stock. Big slip.

 

.308 M98 Mauser Action with low mount safety and scope. Probably rebarreled 7.92x57.

Safely looks like this.

 

That skinny kid needs to be put away for life. He is a threat to the public and a reflection of the Democratic Party. The devisive rhetoric must stop.

 

That skinny kid needs to be put away for life. He is a threat to the public and a reflection of the Democratic Party. The decisive rhetoric must stop.

Just curious
What does his weight have to do with anything?

 

Caliber could be almost anything. From .257 Roberts to 30-06 The barrel contour is not military so any thing is possible.

 

Looking at the picture, you can tell he didn't have a lot of knowledge about scopes. He set the scope way too far back in the mounts. He might have a black eye.

 

Watching the official press conference, mostly officials and pious platitudes, I thought the FBI boss was going to dislocate his arm by patting himself on the back too hard.
But a bit came out, the killer was outed by his parents and "roommate" with lots of support from surveilance cameras and media posts. As a SF author said a while back, we are in a transparent society and you have no real expectation of privacy.

My friend said "But how did he get ON the rooftop?"

 

How did he gain roof access? Was the bullet recovered? Did he make a statement? If so, what was motive? Instead of "We did a great job".

 

Now would be a good time to bring back the firing squad, this guy can be the first one sentenced to death by it. Instead our tax dollars will pay for him to watch Tv, eat three meals a day for the rest of his miserable life.

 

Utah has the Firing Squad as an option . Used most recently in 2010 , and another upcoming one scheduled for this year .

[ Winchester M94s in .30-30 , with 150gr Power Points ]

 

I started a thread re: charlie kirk and the moderator shut it down because is was not about a glock. God bless charlie kirk and his family. ie 1777 posts on what we had for dinner each day. go figure.

 

They certainly have their favorites, don’t they?

 

If this is the rifle used to kill Kirk (ballistics will confirm that) then it is an old Mauser M95 in 30-06 (rechambered, it was at first in 7.65×53mm Argentine) and it is of .311-.313 bore, and not .308 but it is chambered for 30-06 hence the slugs are .308 bore not .311-313.

If so to be 200 yard accurate they needed to either use handloads using .311 (British .303) or true .313 Argentine slugs (they are still made) or maybe that is why it hit Kirk's neck... not very accurate.. I bet he aimed for his head.

We will see what the FBI ballistics team says.

 

If the FBI ballistics team gives us the whole and true story at any point. We are over a year since Butler, PA and the public still knows very little about the kid who shot Trump in the ear.

 

I guess i assumed from the beginning it was probably a lighter caliber like 5.56, not a .30-06.

I pray the killer is caught, everything comes to light, and that justice is served in a big way.

 

At one time the gun banners, having demonized semiauto "assault weapons" as much as they could, took on the scope sighted bolt action as a "sniper rifle." I haven't heard that one in a while but this may bring it back.

 

All guns are bad in the Left’s eyes. They will not stop until private citizens can no longer legally possess firearms.

 

Notice the front scope mount. It’s nearly pff the receiver. The scope itself is set back in the rings. It must have been loose in the rings and recoil set it back. Poor mounting job. Shooter could have had a ring cut on one brow depending on if he tended to creep up on the stock. I don’t know for sure. It just doesn’t look right.

 

Thats not accurate.

 

The videos I have seen on the news show him running to the edge of the building, climbing down several feet and then jumping to the ground and running away. He did NOT appear to have a rifle with him. Look closely at the video.
How did he get the rifle that he did not seem to be carrying in the video all the way from the rooftop to the ground and then to the woods and wrapped in a towel?

 

What amazes me is why a simple drone, with camera monitored, wasn't flying over the event from before it began. Charlie's security team could so easily have done that. Cheap. That's ALL it would have taken to prevent this from happening. (Same at Butler, last year - a simple drone could easily have prevented this.)

 

What amazes me is why a simple drone, with camera monitored, wasn't flying over the event from before it began. Charlie's security team could so easily have done that. Cheap. That's ALL it would have taken to prevent this from happening. (Same at Butler, last year - a simple drone.)

It was on the University grounds.. thus security was the responsibly of the University police. Utah Valley University.

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And I doubt they did much but have a officer or two in attendance. See this was not a Trump rally or such.

Kirk's group would have a few people near by but on the roof tops?

 

I’ve got a couple of them as well.

one of those might even be a 30-06 conversion that doesn’t have a .311-312 barrel 😉

 

NY Post journalism? No thanks.

 

It is descriptive of his appearance according to the FBI.