I haven't seen one live yet, but it seems that Colt is late to the sub-$600 entry level AR game ...

 

Where is the people that claim that Colts are mil spec gold standard to be judged by now?

Not any longer. SJ 40

 

Colt is grasping at straws to try and keep their water logged turd of a company from sinking completely.

 

Colt is grasping at straws to try and keep their water logged turd of a company from sinking completely.

Soon enough it will be back into bankruptcy for the umpteenth time for the rearing pony. SJ 40

 

Sounds like it is setup as a base that is upgradable should you desire. No dust cover or forward assist, but you can add one. No M4 barrel cutout.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/shot-show-2016/first-look-colt-expanse-m4/

 

They are obviously targeting the S&W Sport II and Ruger AR556 market. However it still looks to me like the M&P Sport 2 is a better value.

 

They just see a market in the guys who claim the substandard ar's are just as good.... and cannot afford a real colt, BCM, dd, lmt, etc

 

Yep. Get into the AR market with a Colt named gun.. if you have to do the FA and dust cover then so be it.... does it have M4 feed ramps.

 

I'll pass. tom.

 

Agreed not in the least interested. SJ 40

 

I didn't realize Colt stopped making 6920's

Do I have a future rare collector's item now?

lol

 

No one said the M4 Expanse is "mil spec gold standard", but you want to start an argument like people have.:rollingeyes::rollingeyes:

 

That's what he does

 

Colt a company who thinks Bankruptcy is just a word. SJ 40

 

I didn't realize Colt stopped making 6920's

Do I have a future rare collector's item now?

lol

Although I own and love Colts, they are always a day late and a dollar short with their marketing. This product should have been launched about five years ago to capture the economy AR market place, and no they are not dropping the 6920. That's their life's blood product.

 

When a company wants to market it's name rather than product,that's colt always late to the party. SJ 40

 

When you get down to it, how many people leave their AR's stock. Or just buy one.

Granted I've personally have never upgraded a dust cover or FA, but by the time most people are finished with their personal touches and upgrades, little remains but the receiver.

 

Where is the people that claim that Colts are mil spec gold standard to be judged by now?

Well, since this rifle is obviously not mil spec......They’re not here.

 

You mean people who talk about rifles based on specifications are aware that a company is capable of making different rifles to different specifications? No way!

 

It's good for Colt. Most of us have a bond with the gun company in which was the brand of your first ever gun. Start them young and have a gait-way gun to lead young buyers into a forever bond with Colt.

 

Hi guys! I just ordered the new Colt 6920 Magpul slim line for $919.99 shipped!

This is the lowest price I have seen so far. This is the Magpul slim line (SL) not the first 6920 Magpul that can be had at Walmart for $700 a few years ago.

http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/161536

Did I get a deal at the current market?

 

Hi guys! I just ordered the new Colt 6920 Magpul slim line for $919.99 shipped!

This is the lowest price I have seen so far. This is the Magpul slim line (SL) not the first 6920 Magpul that can be had at Walmart for $700 a few years ago.

http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/161536

Did I get a deal at the current market?

Not great, but not bad of a price either. MSRP is $1049, so you saved about 10%.

 

AR-15 Review: Colt Expanse M4

Although many gun store owners have been reporting declining sales for so-called “black rifles,” the AR-15 is, without question, still one of the most popular rifles in the nation. For this reason, manufacturers are continuing to produce “America’s Rifle,” and especially affordably priced versions that are attainable to the average gun owner.

http://www.gundigest.com/tactical-g...=gd-cgb-wir-160317-ModernShooter&utm_content=828335_GDMS160317&utm_medium=email

Came across this recent review of the Expanse. SJ 40

 

They are obviously targeting the S&W Sport II and Ruger AR556 market. However it still looks to me like the M&P Sport 2 is a better value.

^6 This is what I was going to say..the Ruger and M&P seem to already(for the same $$) be better values.

 

According to posts on arfcom the Expanse is pretty much a franken rifle assembled by a contractor from parts sourced from several manufacturers including Anderson. The stripped lower and bolt(not the carrier) are about the only parts confirmed as actual Colt parts. There's conflicting info about whether the FCG is Colt or sourced elsewhere, possibly from Anderson, but either way it's not the same as in the 6920/6720. The M&P Sport II has more features for the same price as the Expanse, or can find a 6920 compete rifle or OEM model for a couple hundred dollars more.

 

According to posts on arfcom the Expanse is pretty much a franken rifle assembled by a contractor from parts sourced from several manufacturers including Anderson. The stripped lower and bolt(not the carrier) are about the only parts confirmed as actual Colt parts. There's conflicting info about whether the FCG is Colt or sourced elsewhere, possibly from Anderson, but either way it's not the same as in the 6920/6720. The M&P Sport II has more features for the same price as the Expanse, or can find a 6920 compete rifle or OEM model for a couple hundred dollars more.

But doesn't Anderson make guns under the name Colt Competition or something like that?

Anyway, frankengun and non-mil-spec and whatnot, I'm sure that the M4 Expanse at probably street price of $600 will do its yeoman service just fine. I simply want to poke some fun at the "Colt is mil spec" fanboys who were adamant that if it ain't Colt AR it ain't mil spec, ergo ain't worth a damn.

I do agree that within the cheap AR market, the SW Sport II is probably at the top notch. My Sport II's fit and finish is light years ahead of my Ruger AR556 and Colt AR15A3 & LE6920. The trigger pull alone is like shooting a match rifle after pulling the triggers on the Ruger and Colts.

 

But doesn't Anderson make guns under the name Colt Competition or something like that?

The Colt Competition rifles are made by Bold Ideas, who also assemble the Expanse.

I'm sure the Expanse will work fine for most purposes as well. But a lot of people seem to think it's a stripped down 6920, or were going to buy them for a cheap Colt lower. It's basically a contracted rifle made on a Colt stripped lower.

 

An oh so great long standing gun company, can't even make and/or assemble their own guns.......

 

Their business in the last couple of decades is in marketing their name in between bankruptcy's,they rode the poor pony into the ground sometime ago. SJ 40

 

I don't see where Colt says it is "mil-spec" anywhere.

http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Rifles/Expanse-M4

 

They don't say that. Nobody says or has said that.

 

Dude-skis, get the Pony, ... or at the range you'll be lonely. :bump:

:laughabove:

 

Colt's are where it's at for me. But that doesn't mean others aren't worthy. I've owned BCM that are excellent. Love the 6920 and 6720.