Just be prepared if you go the CZ route, you're going too have to buy a bunch of upgrades for it to get it to where you want it.

 

Kalashnikov.

 

I'd go with PSA AK-V. It's had so much PIP that I'd trust it far above the KR-9 and it takes common CZ mags.

 

I don't care for the ergos on either. I'd go with an AR style setup. The CMMG Banshee with rotating bolt is front-runner currently.

 

Just be prepared if you go the CZ route, you're going too have to buy a bunch of upgrades for it to get it to where you want it.

Upgrades like what?

I was never one for the whole flashlight, laser, bazooka or whatever hanging off my guns!

All I need is my suppressor and a lot of extra magazines!

 

Check yer in box, I sent you a book.

 

The Scorpion is tested and proven around the world. I'd look at the Stribog as well and forget the AK.

 

I'd look at the Stribog as well and forget the AK.

If you're going Stribog then you may as well wait for the A3s and the 922R kits.

 

I really like my CZ, but find the AK interesting. If I were choosing one of the two I would get the CZ again since I know it and trust it. I will not consider the AK until it has been around a while.

 

Just be prepared if you go the CZ route, you're going too have to buy a bunch of upgrades for it to get it to where you want it.

Such as? I would call only the spring kit to be essential, everything else I’ve done has been personal preference. And it has run like a banshee from day one.

 

I second that, and the spring kit is quite inexpensive.

 

I need to decide quickly because I plan on ordering this week/ Please note that I will be using my suppressor on it so it MUST have a threaded barrel (1/2 X 28). Thanks in advance for any and all replies!

No disrespect intended, but I simply cannot for the life of me understand why anyone places a time constraint on a firearm purchase, especially if there's no immediate emergency or purposeful reason for being in such a hurry. Is it because you're Jones'n for sumpthin', or?

When I can't decide on something I don't ask for other people's advice, nor do I buy whichever costs less, or whatever's in immediate reach; I instead drop the whole idea of buying anything so I can do more research and make as educated a decision as possible, and when my research leads me to that something that I'm looking for but isn't available, I hold onto my pursestrings and have patience until it IS available, and then I proceed.

It took me a couple of years worth of impulse buying to finally come to the realization that such purchases more often than not led to disappointment and lost funds. Yep I thought they were a good idea at the time and I just had to have them (their qualities were "enhanced" by the $$ burning a hole in my pocket), but in reality they ended up being novelties that wore off surprisingly quick. I've since reduced such instances of disappointment to zero!

So have some patience and do your due diligence; you'll reduce or eliminate your chances of disappointment and getting hosed

 

Yeah, I get interested in a lot of guns. . . but except in rare circumstances, I might take a year or two to get around to buying one, as I research it, and decide whether I really want it or not.

 

I've been really happy with my AKV from PSA, and it takes the same mags as the Scorpion.

 

I have the Scorpion. The only needed upgrade, in my opinion, are the safety levers. It's a cheap and easy fix with the mini AK style ones from HB Industries. Some people complain about the grip and trigger but I didn't find them to be a hindrance to shooting the weapon well. It's crazy fun to shoot and cool looking to boot.

 

The triggers sucks bad. That is a must upgrade

 

Here's my vote.

 

Personally, I don't like the ergonomics of the cz.

Have sbr scorpion at the shop, factory sbr kusa, and kusa with brace.

I'd take the ak all day. The brace version is nice even. Not as cool looking as a triangle folder but just as functional.

People say to get the psa because of the scorpion mags. Imo it's a slight against them. Kusa takes factory Russian mags, which most ak enthusiasts would want at least one or two of.

The only reason imo to get the psa is because it's cheaper. The kusa is a pretty good clone of the real deal.

 

 

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That's what mine would look like....VERY NICE!!!!

Does the KP-9/KR-9 take standard AK furniture?

That is gorgeous!!!

 

Yes. Not mine though. Belongs to the shop. If it where mine id have to put zenit on it.

 

I'd go with the Scorpion. Even with upgrading parts it's still a good deal. That said, I'd rather have a HK or clone like the Zenith but it's a lot more money.

 

Watch this and then decide

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zBpO7PqxuA

 

Watch this and then decide

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zBpO7PqxuA

Great video, he makes some really good points! Definitely something to think about.

 

OK, I have made my decision and I ordered the one I want yesterday!

It was such a great price I just could not pass it up, hopefully it will be here before Christmas!

Thank you all for your advice and your replies, I appreciate it very much, have a great weekend and a very Merry Christmas!

 

Well....which one did you go with?

 

The KP-9!!!!!

Nice. Post some pics when you get it and a review if you could.

 

For sure!!!

 

Scheduled delivery is on Wednesday the 18th. I will try to pick it up then but might be the 19th. Stay tuned.....:thumbsup:

 

Just be prepared if you go the CZ route, you're going too have to buy a bunch of upgrades for it to get it to where you want it.

...and if he does he'll be out a grand total of maybe $100. It's an extremely cost effective platform and all the parts are plug n play.

 

Don't have to worry about that because I have already ordered the KP 9!

 

Extar EP9...runs Glock mags with AR trigger and grips...under $500

 

Additional expense to get the gun to where it needs to be.

Kinda sounds like Glocks.

Anyway, even with the *optional* upgrades you might have less in the Evo than in the stock KP-9.

 

I still chose the stock kp9!

The Evo looks like a great gun but I don't think it's going to tickle my fancy right now!

I have my wife for that! LOL

 

I’m not bashing it. Just sharing the common thread of reviews I’ve seen across the Internet.

That common thread is the fact that it takes significant additional expense to get the gun to where it needs to be.

Since I don’t own one, I don’t know the specifics of what it consists of, but the feedback is clear and consistent. Since I’ve taken the time to read a lot of reviews, I thought I would share with him the benefit of my time investment.

I’m sorry you feel that reviewers opinions should be hidden from prospective buyers.

I have yet to hear somebody say that about the Extar or several other competitors.

I don't know where you are getting your "common thread" of internet reviews, but you sound kind of typical of what gives internet reviews the rap "don't believe what you read on the net".
My CZ is just plastic and metal to me and if it was bad I'd be the first to say so. As others who actually own them have told you, they don't require much and what they do require is fast and cheap. As everyone has told you, the trigger spring is cheap and fast. The safety selector bothers some people and is also a cheap and easy fix. I changed my grip only to help with the SBR compliance, otherwise I was fine with the grip. Either way, it was cheap.
So if you choose to install all these parts you will be out around $100, and I don't know anyone who would say the CZ is not totally reliable.

If you would really like to educate yourself you can go to HB industries and see for yourself what these parts cost and maybe watch a video to see what installing them involves. Or, you can keep spreading nonsense.

 

Sorry you’ve been triggered by the mildest criticism of your golden toy. So you work for the company or something. You’re acting like it.

Bottom line, it’s not ready to go out of the box. Period.