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Discussion starter · #62 ·
So I just got back from an impromptu invite to shoot at my FFL's house, and it was great. He's recovering from Pink Eye, so here's hoping I don't get it lol. I took my WBP Jack, GP100 4" stainless, CZ P10F, Glock 45, Kel-Tec P17, and my Mossberg 590A1. All of the guns except for my GP100 haven't been shot until today, so it was good to try them out and burn off some oil.

That GP100 with Buffalo Bore 125gr. Magnum loads is close to the upper limit of what I'm comfortable with, especially with the Altamont grips I have on it. Those are some smoking loads! It made me pause and reconsider the .44 Mag. I still want one, but less now than I did before I shot my .357 lol. I also learned that I need to work on my shooting technique, and definitely get a shorter length-of-pull buttstock for my Mossberg. As well as some in-the-ear electronic hearing protection, rather than earmuff-style protection. Definitely annoying when you're trying to shoulder rifles and shotguns.

All in all, a fun time! The only hardship is loading and unloading the car....what you haul in you gotta haul out.

I asked him about my dilemma, and he almost immediately said "1911!" He has both the .44 Mag Blackhawk and a series 70 Colt, neither of which I shot.

I might just buy a couple of different TISAS models that I've found. I like the looks of both. Or maybe one and let my gun budget roll over to next month. Still thinking about this, but I'll make up my mind tomorrow.

Maccabeus said:
Sounds like you've answered your question.

As long as you're good with blue over stainless, you can get the Colt for close to your budgeted top end:
www.familyfirearms.com

Colt 1911 Competition 70 Series 45 ACP 5' 8rd Blued Carbon Steel Blue G10 Logo Grip O1970CCS (+$21.99 Shipping)

<p>Colt's 1911 Competition pistol features custom G10 blue grips with a scallop texture and the Colt logo, dual recoil spring system, a National Match barrel. It has Novak sights for precision shooting; a fiber optic front with adjustable rear sight. It comes with a magazine and spare sight...
www.familyfirearms.com www.familyfirearms.com

Stainless is going to run about $900-1000.

I picked up my Stainless earlier this year as a blem gun well below $1k. But that requires patience and watching the listings.

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That's gorgeous. I've seen a couple of blem models floating around out there, but how much "blem" is it? The prices are good, but the fact that they are blemished makes me pause.

happie2shoot said:
OP, something to wish for,

Greater Idaho movement: Merging Idaho with parts of Oregon, California (usatoday.com)

Could Idaho be expanding its border? A look at the Greater Idaho movement | Boise State Public Radio

greater idaho proposed map at DuckDuckGo

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I love this idea but it will never happen. And wouldn't you know it....my county, although very Red, is JUST outside the boundary. :rolleyes:
 
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Jade Falcon said:
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That's gorgeous. I've seen a couple of blem models floating around out there, but how much "blem" is it? The prices are good, but the fact that they are blemished makes me pause.
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Well, in the end, I think that's always a roll of the dice.

Still, having said that, most anecdotal reports I read from various "blem" buyers seem to have small issues or they can't even identify what the blemish is. I bought a PSA blem gun once that looked fine to my eyes.

This Colt has a partial idiot mark that can be seen when the lighting is right which I assume put it in the "blem" category:

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Other then that, it seems fine.
 
#66 ·
cityborncountrylivin said:
Was one of the 45acp 1911 criteria to put down a enemy cavalry steed during battle?

One of the local fathers when I was young told us he killed a tiger in Burma as a member of Merrills’ Marauders with a Gov’t 45.

He had some pretty hellacious scars.
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My great grandpa fought in Burma with Meryl's marauders :) Small world..
 
#67 ·
Jade Falcon said:
So I just got back from an impromptu invite to shoot at my FFL's house, and it was great. He's recovering from Pink Eye, so here's hoping I don't get it lol. I took my WBP Jack, GP100 4" stainless, CZ P10F, Glock 45, Kel-Tec P17, and my Mossberg 590A1. All of the guns except for my GP100 haven't been shot until today, so it was good to try them out and burn off some oil.

That GP100 with Buffalo Bore 125gr. Magnum loads is close to the upper limit of what I'm comfortable with, especially with the Altamont grips I have on it. Those are some smoking loads! It made me pause and reconsider the .44 Mag. I still want one, but less now than I did before I shot my .357 lol. I also learned that I need to work on my shooting technique, and definitely get a shorter length-of-pull buttstock for my Mossberg. As well as some in-the-ear electronic hearing protection, rather than earmuff-style protection. Definitely annoying when you're trying to shoulder rifles and shotguns.

All in all, a fun time! The only hardship is loading and unloading the car....what you haul in you gotta haul out.

I asked him about my dilemma, and he almost immediately said "1911!" He has both the .44 Mag Blackhawk and a series 70 Colt, neither of which I shot.

I might just buy a couple of different TISAS models that I've found. I like the looks of both. Or maybe one and let my gun budget roll over to next month. Still thinking about this, but I'll make up my mind tomorrow.



That's gorgeous. I've seen a couple of blem models floating around out there, but how much "blem" is it? The prices are good, but the fact that they are blemished makes me pause.



I love this idea but it will never happen. And wouldn't you know it....my county, although very Red, is JUST outside the boundary. :rolleyes:
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Have you ever shot a .44 magnum? If hot 125g .357 magnum is close to your upper limit, I doubt you'd like a 44 mag. Much more recoil than .357. I enjoy a little kick, up to hot .357s, but the .44 mag isn't much fun, to me...a bit too much imo.
 
#68 ·
Jade Falcon said:
I want either a new Colt 1911 Government Model, either a Competition Series, or a Classic Series. Or a Ruger New Super Blackhawk 7.5" in .44 Mag. Those are my two immediate wants. No reasons other than wants and for plinking purposes.
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For "plinking" a 1911 in 9mm or a Blackhawk in 357/38 would be my suggestion.
For hunting, the SBH 44 is the obvious choice.
I have taken a couple deer with a 1911 (45 ACP) but it is far from ideal.
 
#71 · (Edited)
OP, years ago we lived on a ranch up a mountain valley OFF GRID, in Idaho,
two mile drive across forest service land just to get to the edge of the ranch.
The drivway was only around eight ft wide and changed elevation 500ft, up.
The clostest neighbor was eight miles away.

There was a pelton wheel, hydro, and solar panels for power for the owners
house, at our house, no electricity, just propane frig and three propane lights
in the house.

When the dogs would bark at night I would go out to try and see what it was,
took a big mag light in one hand and a 44 RH with 310gr WFN GC boolits in it
in the other hand, did not like that at all. Wanted two hands on the gun.

Thought what I needed was a 1911 in 460 Rowland with a light rail on it.
With that I had both hands on the gun with a good light on it and an extra
mag in my back pocket.

If you get a 1911, get one with a pic rail and maybe the option for a 460 R,
you can also shoot regular 45 acp in it, it just gives you more options.

There was a 187 lb mt lion shot on that ranch, many bear elk, moose,,,,,

Also, I think this would be better than the 44 SBH, it can shoot 45 acp
and 45 Colt +P, also UW and BB makes +p 45 colt ammo for it that get
very close to 44 mag.

Ruger® New Model Blackhawk® Convertible Single-Action Revolver Model 0472

Don't get the other 45 convertibles, they are not the same wt, will not
shoot the hotter loads. They are not as strong.

This is some of the loads you can get that get very close to 44 mag,
you will not probably need a lot of them,

45 Colt (Long Colt) +P 325gr. Long Flat Nose Gas Check Black Cherry Coated Hard Cast Hunting Ammo (underwoodammo.com)

45 Colt +P DEER GRENADE Pistol & Handgun Ammunition (buffalobore.com)

Heavy .45 Colt +P Pistol & Handgun Ammunition (buffalobore.com)

I do love the 44 mag and have four of them but that 45C/45ACP will give
you more options, also it will shoot the hottest 45ACP +P ammo just fine.

We do have all guns in this post and more, up to a 475L, the G21 has
become my 460 R.

Living on that ranch was one of the best times in my life.
 
#77 ·
LaneP said:
Given those two choices I would go with the 1911. The Blackhawk would be fun but practical applications would be narrower, and a lot more costly to shoot.
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True, if you reload go wirh the 44 if not go with the 45
 
Discussion starter · #78 ·
So I bought a TISAS Service Special in .45 ACP. There was just something about it that I really liked; maybe it's the simplicity and the ruggedness of it. $349, and about $368 after everything was paid for. Just sent off the FFL info about an hour or so ago.

Here's a review on it:


Now at least I have a 1911. Not the Colt I wanted, but it also leaves me plenty of money for other things, such as ammo and upgrades for my 590A1, like a shorter stock. And if it's holed up at my FFL with M114, then it's not going to cost me an arm-and-a-leg to send it back, and it won't be a huge loss. Not to mention if I can buy a nicer gun next month, I will. That will likely be a new Colt.

I REALLY considered getting either a Ruger 10/22 to go with it, or a Henry lever-action H001 .22. I'll probably forego it, but I'm still considering it.

Thanks to everyone who responded!
 
#79 ·
^ Good choice. That particular model has the higher 'COLT 80' style sights which are a notable improvement over GI sights.
 
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SargeMO said:
^ Good choice. That particular model has the higher 'COLT 80' style sights which are a notable improvement over GI sights.
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Yeah, I actually prefer, on this particular style of 1911, to have the GI sights. I think the bigger rear sight just looks goofy.

I actually didn't give it much thought until I saw the above video, but still not a deal breaker, and they aren't "that" large. Just not preferred.
 
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