[Jade Falcon]

Thanks everyone! Right now I'm leaning strongly towards a Colt 1911. But I should answer some questions:

-This would be my second 1911....my first was an old garage-built "race gun" Norinco that was one of THE ugliest guns I've ever seen, but I bought that as an "impulse Buy" way back in the mid-2000s when I was still new to guns and didn't know anything about them. I didn't get nearly what I paid for it and sold it at the Portland Gun Show for parts. Lesson learned.

-No, I do not have any current guns chambered in .44 Mag. If I was going to get a lever-action, I would get one in .357 Mag first to compliment my GP100, before I got one in .44 Mag. The only lever-action I currently have is an LSI chambered in .454 Casull, but I'm not yet ready to plunk down the money on a .454 Casull handgun. I feel .44 Mag is more available while having the ability to still be versatile.

-I want a Colt for providence-sake. It's a Colt. I can get aftermarket Colt grips from Altamont for it, as well as other Colt products, etc etc. And....well, it's a 1911 Colt. The other brands are fine, as I said I like the TISAS and the SA, but.....it's a Colt and it holds its value. Even with reports of any problems here and there, they still make a nice gun. It might sound petty to some, but that's how I see it.

Thanks everyone for the replies and suggestions!

 

[sharpblade]

Two great choices

 

[USAF_PJ]

Thanks everyone! Right now I'm leaning strongly towards a Colt 1911. But I should answer some questions:

-This would be my second 1911....my first was an old garage-built "race gun" Norinco that was one of THE ugliest guns I've ever seen, but I bought that as an "impulse Buy" way back in the mid-2000s when I was still new to guns and didn't know anything about them. I didn't get nearly what I paid for it and sold it at the Portland Gun Show for parts. Lesson learned.

-No, I do not have any current guns chambered in .44 Mag. If I was going to get a lever-action, I would get one in .357 Mag first to compliment my GP100, before I got one in .44 Mag. The only lever-action I currently have is an LSI chambered in .454 Casull, but I'm not yet ready to plunk down the money on a .454 Casull handgun. I feel .44 Mag is more available while having the ability to still be versatile.

-I want a Colt for providence-sake. It's a Colt. I can get aftermarket Colt grips from Altamont for it, as well as other Colt products, etc etc. And....well, it's a 1911 Colt. The other brands are fine, as I said I like the TISAS and the SA, but.....it's a Colt and it holds its value. Even with reports of any problems here and there, they still make a nice gun. It might sound petty to some, but that's how I see it.

Thanks everyone for the replies and suggestions!

We like what we like and want what we want...really glad we each get the gift of choice.
Colt is a manufacturer that offers tiers of options so major components are likely to be compatible across models and it is still the basic pattern for 1911 manufacturers. My preference in Colts are the series 70 models. I like them because the trigger design of series 80 and 90 models is different and not quite as "tunable". Please do not get me wrong - they (80 and 90 models)are ok, just not my preferred models.

As far as lever action, if you get a .44mag pistol, I might suggest a .44mag Henry - it digests 44spl pretty easily, as will the Ruger handguns, which gives you something a hair "less" than .357, but a lower horsepower than 44magnum. Buffalo Bore for example sells 44spl at 190 gr. 1,150fps.... while .357 magnum goes out about 150gr at 1400fps. My personal preference is the choice between the bigger diameter round's offerings (44spl and .44mag).

 

[MarkCO]

As far as lever action, if you get a .44mag pistol, I might suggest a .44mag Henry

Finally knocked my "wish list" of guns down to zero when I got my Henry in .41Mag. It's just such a fun gun to shoot. Almost too pretty though.

 

[USAF_PJ]

Finally knocked my "wish list" of guns down to zero when I got my Henry in .41Mag. It's just such a fun gun to shoot. Almost too pretty though.

If I had it to do all over again I probably would have gone with the 41mag Henry/Super Balckhawk/Smith stack. As it is I have the Winchester/Blackhawk/Smith .357 stack and the Winchester/Superblackhawk/Smith .44mag stack, and same in 45lc. I really like my brother's .41mag.

 

[sharpblade]

We like what we like and want what we want...really glad we each get the gift of choice.
Colt is a manufacturer that offers tiers of options so major components are likely to be compatible across models and it is still the basic pattern for 1911 manufacturers. My preference in Colts are the series 70 models. I like them because the trigger design of series 80 and 90 models is different and not quite as "tunable". Please do not get me wrong - they (80 and 90 models)are ok, just not my preferred models.

As far as lever action, if you get a .44mag pistol, I might suggest a .44mag Henry - it digests 44spl pretty easily, as will the Ruger handguns, which gives you something a hair "less" than .357, but a lower horsepower than 44magnum. Buffalo Bore for example sells 44spl at 190 gr. 1,150fps.... while .357 magnum goes out about 150gr at 1400fps. My personal preference is the choice between the bigger diameter round's offerings (44spl and .44mag).

That is also a great choice

 

[DMAR]

My opinion is definitely go with the Colt 1911. I’ve got Colt 1911s, and some .44 magnums (revolvers and lever guns), including few Ruger .44 magnums. I have a nice Super Blackhawk that I put a Weaver pistol scope on, it’s a nice gun and I’ve hunted deer with it. Nothing wrong with the Rugers, I like them a lot. But given your choice, unless I had a specific need for the SB in .44 mag (like hunting), I’d go with the Colt all day long. Much more fun to shoot, great platform, and yes, it’s a Colt, everyone needs a Colt 1911. Colts also hold their value well. Plus, .45acp is more affordable to shoot.

Tisas makes a good, affordable 1911, but it’ll always be a bargain gun. Okay if that’s what your after, but I just don’t usually gravitate to those types of guns. That said, after Browning stopped making the Hi Power, I bought a stainless steel Tisas Hi Power because I wanted a durable shooter so I wouldn’t have to mess up my now collectable Brownings, and Tisas was the only one making them in SS. It’s a really good gun, with a much better trigger than my Brownings…

At the end of the day, you know what you really want, just scratch that itch, then move on to the next one when you save up enough cash….

 

[Borg Warner]

So once again, I'm in a dilemma, in big part because of this damn state. The short of it: there's a measure that's in court, and a ruling is supposed to be out probably around Thanksgiving. If the judge finds in our favor (likely), then it will get appealed to the State Supreme Court, which will find in favor of the state, and that means no more gun sales in Oregon without a permit, which you can't get for a host of reasons. How long it takes to get appealed is anyone's guess, and there's not even a guarantee that the Judge will find in our favor. But it's looking likely.

I've got my bills paid, and I've got a gun budget for the month. Preferably, I don't want to go above $700.....that leaves me enough money for any unforeseen things that might come up. $800 is pushing it, but doable.

I REALLY want two guns, but I can't afford both right now with my current budget. In no particular order, I want either a new Colt 1911 Government Model, either a Competition Series, or a Classic Series. Or a Ruger New Super Blackhawk 7.5" in .44 Mag. Those are my two immediate wants. No reasons other than wants and for plinking purposes. And yes, I can afford the .44 mag ammo for how often I shoot. No, I do not reload, nor do I have the facilities to do it, nor the desire to learn how, thanks.

My backup plan was to just settle for a TISAS for $300-$400, and MAYBE throw in a Ruger 10/22 as well. Which is fine because I wanted a TISAS anyways, but I would prefer the Colt. That way I save money to add to next month's gun budget, if this measure doesn't go through. Or, perhaps get a Springfield Armory Garrison, but I'm not a fan of the logos on the slides. Not a huge deal breaker, but slightly annoying nonetheless.

So what should I do? No other gun suggestions please, I've got the ones I want for now. But these ones escape me so far.

Thanks folks.

Over the years I've bought and sold many Ruger Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks including two old models in 357 magnum and 30 carbine, a 7 1/2 inch SBH and another 7 1/2 inch that I had the Barrel cut back to 5 inches, and then a good friend of mine had a 10 and a half inch SBH which most people don't know is amazing for a reason that you wouldn't know until you shot one and that reason is this:

Because of the added weight out front if the long "Buntline" barrel, recoil is reduced to the point where standard Super Blackhawk grips are perfectly comfortable even with 300 grain Buffalo Bore Bear loads. And the longer sight picture add to the accuracy. Another thing that I've learned about Ruger SA's is that while the triggers are pretty good right out of the box, a good Gunsmith can improve those triggers, both new model and old model to the point where it becomes the stuff that dreams are made of, which enhances accuracy.

I've been a gun nut since I got my first Daisy BB gun in 1959 and like I said I've owned a lot of different guns. But ther was one recent period where I didn't own a sing Ruger Blackhawk and it really started to bother me and I had to have one. So I decided that I wanted one with the Bisley grip and decided I wanted one in 41 mag, and as a bonus the 41 mag Ruger Bisley had a 7 1/2 inch barrel which I USED TO like better than the standard Blackhawk 6 1/2 inch barrel but I especially like it with calibers like 30 carbine and 41 mag to get the most vewlocities possible out of those chamberings.

I looked on gunbroker for about 6 weeks and couldn't find a 41 Bisley for a decent price but stumbled upon a standard 6 1/2 41 mag Blackhawk in nice condition for a price that was too good to pass up and whant made the deaal even better was that even though it was a new model it was one made before thy started putting warning lables on the barrels and when O got it, it was even in better condition than th pictures seemed to show. The bore an dthe cylinders were squeeky clean and like new and the gun was mechanically tight.

And once I started shooting it and carrying it, I discovered that I really liked the 6 1/2 inch barrel length

 

[Maccabeus]

Thanks everyone! Right now I'm leaning strongly towards a Colt 1911. ...

-I want a Colt for providence-sake. ...

Sounds like you've answered your question.

As long as you're good with blue over stainless, you can get the Colt for close to your budgeted top end:

Colt 1911 Competition 70 Series 45 ACP 5' 8rd Blued Carbon Steel Blue G10 Logo Grip O1970CCS (+$21.99 Shipping)

<p>Colt's 1911 Competition pistol features custom G10 blue grips with a scallop texture and the Colt logo, dual recoil spring system, a National Match barrel. It has Novak sights for precision shooting; a fiber optic front with adjustable rear sight. It comes with a magazine and spare sight...

www.familyfirearms.com

Stainless is going to run about $900-1000.

I picked up my Stainless earlier this year as a blem gun well below $1k. But that requires patience and watching the listings.

 

[magnum2117]

I'd go with the 44 but I like revolvers alot, the 45 would be easier to find ammo for but if you reload that's a moot point. You could split the difference and get a 1911 in 10mm. Then you'd have the 1911 with somewhere around 41 magnum power levels. Kind of best of both worlds in way, in fact I want a 10mm myself at some point down the line.

 

[rayzer007]

There is nothing like a Colt .45!
That’s why the military used it for 100 years, and 2 World Wars!

 

[dbuck47]

Either of the Colts will use up most of a grand. I have seen the Classic around $899; the Competition is usually at the $1K mark or right at it. The Classic is nice looking, but it has a plastic mainspring housing, and the front sight is smooth and subject to glare. The MHS is easily and economically remedied, the front sight not so much other than a dab of paint as it is the staked variety. I’m not knocking it at all, but just making you aware of potential additional costs if you want to change those things.

The Garrison is IMO a good value at 750-850, I wish they didn’t name their guns the way they do, but the markings are pretty sedate. I actually like the crossed cannons. The sights are better and the checkered MHS is nice.

I don’t think I would buy a Tissas.

The Super Blackhawk is a lifetime gun. I would look at a Bisley model also. The grip on the Super is a little funky; too skinny in some places, and that squared trigger guard can tap your knuckles and draw blood with magnum loads; I had the edge knocked off of mine. It’s a great shooter, but seriously take a look at the Bisley model.

If you can stand the price, the Colt Competition might give the most overall satisfaction out of what you listed. You will shoot it more probably, though 44 special is very pleasant out of the Super. I don’t know how much experience you have with.44 Mag, but it is loud and mean. Not to say it isn’t fun or worth the effort, but I personally am done after a couple of cylinders per sitting.

For the record, I own a Colt Classic, a Springfield Garrison, and a Super Blackhawk ( with the funky squared trigger guard - I have had it almost 50 years!)

 

[Chip S.]

Colt 45 for the win. (70 series)
Watch your friend's eyes when you pull it out of the case.

Ruger is also nice, everyone wants a 44. but unless you reload, $$.
Just get both now to beat price increase.

 

[mac66]

Buy the cheap (Tias) 1911

Unless you hunt and/or reload the 1911 is way more practical than a single action 44 mag revolver.

I have a Colt Gold Cup and a cheap 1911 made in the Phillipines. Never shoot the colt, i shoot and carry the cheap 1911 more often and it works fine.

 

[agtman]

Cheap doesn’t have a Pony. Want the Pony.

Everything else is just a wannabe cloney … or a foreign one-off. Think: foreign types with Hookah pipes.

Hotness defined …. Colt M45A1

 

[happie2shoot]

OP, something to wish for,

Greater Idaho movement: Merging Idaho with parts of Oregon, California (usatoday.com)

Could Idaho be expanding its border? A look at the Greater Idaho movement | Boise State Public Radio

greater idaho proposed map at DuckDuckGo

 

[Redglock]

This is the way

 

[1L26]

Sorry! Crappy cell phone camera. The Super Black Hawk looks much better than that pic. BTW It has been Mag-na-ported

Red Hawk (another crappy pic).

 

[SDGlock23]

Both are great, but which one is more useful? Also 44 Mag is going to run close to, or over, $1/round while .45 can be had for half that at least and even more depending on if you shop around for ammo. Which is more fun to shoot? Both are fun but which takes more effort to shoot? Can't go wrong with either.

 

[ProjectCamaro]

I LOVE my 50th Anniversary Blackhawk in 44 magnum. It's one of my favorite guns.

With that said, if you don't have a quality 1911 in your collection that is what I would go with first. While I don't see a 1911 or Blackhawk being outlawed, if something was, I'd think the 1911 would be first since it's more well-known to the anti-freedom people and revolvers always seem to be the last thing they worry about.