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Why is the Beretta APX A1 Carry being sold?

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#1 ·
Beretta is still offering a $50 rebate for the A1 Carry, but out of what I've heard, they like to sit on the rebate request and/or turn it down without notifying the owner.

The biggest problem with the A1 Carry is that spare magazines haven't' been available for it for over a year (I've seen one on eBay offered for $200!).

The next biggest problem is that, according to knowledgeable sources, the gun is technically NOT an APX; its mechanism is different.

The third problematic issue is that there are way too many A1 Carry models, but the buyer is not informed about the differences; a major one is that the front sight cannot be replaced by the user, because it would require gunsmithing.

Finally, the finish on the A1 Carry has been reported to be such poor quality that simply holstering/unholstering the gun a few times, it starts wearing off, which Beretta considers "normal tear and wear," although I haven't seen a finish that bad in my life, and even small players like Hi-Point offer better warranty coverage. If you have a problem with a Beretta, you send it in, and if Beretta determines it's not covered under warranty (which is nearly always relative), you are liable to foot the total bill.

Why is Beretta selling a gun that it doesn't support even by selling extra magazines?
 
#2 ·
Do own one, or just announce "reportedly"?

The carry will run full size mags without problem. If the mags are sold for that much, then buy several guns just to sell the mags for huge profit.

You can buy the sub compact frame module and use the same slide for extra choice. The serial number is on the trigger module.

The slide finish is no different from the other APX's... nitrided.... should be no different.
 
#3 · (Edited)
Yes, I was stupid enough to fall for the brand name and the rebate. However, more details are available at https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/apx-carry-a1.1911779/


Running a full-sized mag defeats the purpose of a carry gun, and it could also use a spacer, which I'm not sure exists.

Are you serious that such a cheap gun would be worth any more to invest into?
 
#4 ·
Many of my "carry" firearms have larger mags...those are for backup/spares...not for carry. One should always carry AT LEAST ONE spare magazine to account for a possible malfunction. Today I am carrying my Sig 365 with tow 15 round mags on my belt...the firearm is loaded with a 12 round magazine +1. As for the Beretta...never owned one.
 
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#5 ·
I have one with over 1k rounds though it, and it’s been excellent. My rebate took the full 12 weeks to arrive and is performed via a third party company, so while technically not Beretta’s direct fault, it is Beretta’s fault for dealing with a poorly performing contractor and not following up with them. The complaints are not unusual and is hurting their reputation. The complaint about magazine availability is also legit and Beretta is again hurting themselves by not rectifying it quickly.

Other than that, the pistol itself isn’t bad. There is only one “A1 Carry”, so I’m not sure where the confusion about multiple models is on that.

The front sight is held in via setscrew and easily replaced by the user. Gunsmith is not necessary.

It’s a direct descendant of the Nano, with a lot of parts compatibility, but also some welcome and necessary improvements. They changed the styling to mimic the double stack APX and it also had a removable chassis like their big brother; overall construction is pretty similar, so it’s easy to see why they gave it the APX family name.

The finish on the pistol is no worse than any other mainstream pistol on the market. I’ve drawn and reholstered mine many times without visible wear.

These are my personal experiences.
 
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I have one with over 1k rounds though it, and it’s been excellent. My rebate took the full 12 weeks to arrive and is performed via a third party company, so while technically not Beretta’s direct fault, it is Beretta’s fault for dealing with a poorly performing contractor and not following up with them. The complaints are not unusual and is hurting their reputation. The complaint about magazine availability is also legit and Beretta is again hurting themselves by not rectifying it quickly.

Other than that, the pistol itself isn’t bad. There is only one “A1 Carry”, so I’m not sure where the confusion about multiple models is on that.

The front sight is held in via setscrew and easily replaced by the user. Gunsmith is not necessary.

It’s a direct descendant of the Nano, with a lot of parts compatibility, but also some welcome and necessary improvements. They changed the styling to mimic the double stack APX and it also had a removable chassis like their big brother; overall construction is pretty similar, so it’s easy to see why they gave it the APX family name.

The finish on the pistol is no worse than any other mainstream pistol on the market. I’ve drawn and reholstered mine many times without visible wear.

These are my personal experiences.
It does shoot nicely, and I like the slide and the grip as well.

My rebate was rejected for some mysterious reason, but it's currently "under revision."

There are at least two types of slides, and I got the cheapest A1 C version for $250, which I would not have paid for it without the rebate offered. Mine does need gunsmithing for the front sight.

I can assure you that the finish on mine is a disaster compared to other handguns I've encountered (no, I'm not going to list them).
 
#8 ·
That's why APXs can be found NIB in the $200-something dollar range, that gun is a joke and Beretta has never been known for good customer service. As an FFL, we had more than 1 customer have a parts breakage on their NIB APX. Beretta is so cheap, they have independent gunsmiths that are trained to work on Berettas and had us ship the gun directly to the gunsmith and not Beretta's factory.
 
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#10 ·
I need to know where the Beretta APX A1 Carry is being sold so I can avoid it, because those guns are so ugly they hurt my eyes.
 
#15 ·
Some Google fu will yield reviews that discuss the terrible trigger, surface finish issues, rebate hold ups, incorrect magazines spent out and poor customer service.

I read two reviews where the Beretta FB admin will kick you out if you complain to the group about this pistol. They qualify it as a “budget gun” and sounds like they’re giving “budget” customer service. As always there were some positives reviews as well but even at 200$ I don’t see the appeal.
 
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I've had one for several months now. I got my rebate just fine but it took awhile. I also didn't have any trouble finding mags for it either and ordered 6 of them.

The gun is just a nano updated to APX, updated to APX A1 Carry.

The front sight comes out with like a 1.5mm hex.

The finish is on par with any other gun in the APX A1 line.
 
#27 ·
I've had one for several months now. I got my rebate just fine but it took awhile. I also didn't have any trouble finding mags for it either and ordered 6 of them.

The gun is just a nano updated to APX, updated to APX A1 Carry.

The front sight comes out with like a 1.5mm hex.

The finish is on par with any other gun in the APX A1 line.
In order to prevent the appearance of a bot/troll, please post a SINGLE link where people can buy the 6 or the 8-round magazines, and respond my answers to your misleading comments. Yes, the Nano uses the same mag, but that is not available in North America, either (I've seen a single store that was selling it in Britain, but the merchant doesn't ship overseas):


The item is unavailable even from Beretta, which has been the case for over a year:


The APX and the A! Carry don't even have the same mechanism, it's misleading to call the A1 Carry an APX... That's not to say the APX 10-round mag might not work with the A1 Carry, but there is no conformation from stores or the manufacturer that it does.

If you were a real person who registered the gun for warranty, you could have noticed that there are several versions of the A1 Carry. Mine came with a front sight that is molded, and without an optic plate or a factory offer for one.

My rebate was rejected, and I was not even notified about it; I learned of it, when I contacted Beretta, and I was told that my rebate request had been rejected "based on the serial number." The rebate offer never mentioned any restriction based on serial numbers, so my request is currently "under revision." Most likely, I will never be notified about the outcome, if any.

And no, the finish is far the worst I've ever seen for ANY brand.
 
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Calling me a liar or a moron speaks for itself.

Anyone claiming that they just picked up six magazines for the A1 Carry/nano recently is automatically a liar.

Other than that, the A1 Carry uses the same mag as the Nano, and another "old-timer" (?) here said that its mags work in the A1 Carry... So much for old-timers.

If you don't take my word for the slide, check it out on YouTube. There are videos to show you the cheap version of the slide...
 
#39 ·
So I did search YouTube for about 15 minutes and didn’t see anything about different slides for the A1 Carry. Possibly, my search skills are lacking this morning. In one of the posts above, there was mention of a 10-round magazine. I’m just going to throw this out there, but it sounds like there is some confusion around APX models.

This was never stated in the discussion so far, but for informational purposes, the APX A1 Carry is a completely different gun than the APX A1 Compact. Fault Beretta for picking close-sounding/confusing names, but there is also no such thing as a APX A1 “Compact Carry”.

The “Carry” is a slim, single stack gun similar to a Glock 43. The “Compact” is a completely different, double-stack gun similar to a Glock 19. They have zero compatibility.

The Carry is only available with 6 or 8-round, single-stack mags. The Compact (totally different gun) has 10-round, double stack mags available, and they won’t fit in the Carry frame.

There is also only one model of A1 Carry. This is not to be confused with different SKUs, which indicate different grip frame colors, whether or not the Burris FF3 optic is included, etc.

The front sight on the Carry is held in with a set screw. The front sight on the Compact is dovetailed in, and does indeed require a gunsmith if you don’t own the correct tools or don’t know how to remove that style of sight.

Check this post on the Beretta forum for more details on the APX series of pistols: Quick Guide to Beretta APX family - Beretta Forum
 
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At this point, you are saying what I am saying, except that you are generously forgetting that the old-timer is lying about the availability of A1 Carry/Nano magazines. The 10-round one is the one for the APX, and a commenter at the beginning of this thread claimed it was compatible with the Nano/Carry, which it is, not, as you are also saying.

When you have the Carry registered, the varieties in the finish do come out as different versions, but please, notice that the Carry, in the last four months or so, has been sold at two different price levels with a difference of $100-150 between the two. The more expensive version came with two mags and the upgradable front sight, the cheaper one came with one mag and a molded front sight. I'm not sure if the "free" optic plate was offered by Beretta for the more expensive one, but as an owner of the cheaper one, even my inquiry about getting one from Beretta was ignored, just like they never notified me that my "request for rebate was denied based on the serial number," but the denial also substantiates that the cheaper version is not really cheaper, only worse than the most expensive one, and the latter is way too expensive for what it is; there are better guns out there in that price range.

Here is a video on YouTube about the differences, but I would prefer to stay away from posting pictures for safety reasons:


Just checked the slide again: there is no hole in it at the front sight in the inside, and the hole on the top is round, which is what I meant by it's having been molded.

I hope, this helps.
 
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#58 ·
Just to jump into this hot tub.
The Apx carry A1 magazines are compatible with the nano magazines but aren’t the exactly the same . The nano baseplate seals up with the frame handle were the carry or carry A1 doesn’t . But it functions just fine .
Here is some more info on the inter compatibility of the nano , carry and carry A1

 
#59 ·
The Beretta APX A1 Carry is just an improved Beretta Nano. Many, nearly all parts can be swapped between them. I have an APX slide on my Nano frame.


No, they do not turn down the rebate. However, if you don’t fill out the form properly or a myriad of other reason like any other rebate you will be denied.

You can find the mags. Just bought two last month. And no, I did not pay $400

You can change the front sight, although I know of no after market options.

The finish has held up fine on my 3. BLK, FDE & OD (I also have 1 Nano) They are carried often either in a pocket holster or ankle holster. Although I do have an OWB holster for the 1 that has a red dot on it.

Last I checked Beretta still offers parts for the APX Carry A1 on their own site
 
#73 ·
I will say the hex fitting sits down inside the hole a bit, so even when I looked at it, it appeared pretty round. I couldn't really see any defined hex shaped, but when I used the hex key, it fit perfectly without any slop or extra force needed, so I knew it was the correct size. (I had tested it before, years ago when I had a Nano, so I knew it was at least a possibility).

Oh yeah, for the rebate, I was not notified either, regarding my denial, I just happened to check up on the status on the website.


A true statement, unfortunately. I really hope they turn things around.
I will say the hex fitting sits down inside the hole a bit, so even when I looked at it, it appeared pretty round. I couldn't really see any defined hex shaped, but when I used the hex key, it fit perfectly without any slop or extra force needed, so I knew it was the correct size. (I had tested it before, years ago when I had a Nano, so I knew it was at least a possibility).

Oh yeah, for the rebate, I was not notified either, regarding my denial, I just happened to check up on the status on the website.


A true statement, unfortunately. I really hope they turn things around.
There will be hex key to fit here. :) The hole it just peacefully round. :) Just for the heck of it, what size should I try?
 
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#77 ·
You have never made this thread; I did.

And no, the mags haven't been available for nearly two years. Take it or leave it.
I made the thread that I linked to.

And yes, it's already been proven in this thread that the mags were available 6 months ago, even though you're pretending that didn't happen.

The latest post on the thread is from 2017.
Funny, I started that thread February 13th, 2021, and posted the last post February 17th, 2021.
 
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We already know this. Several of us have stated as much. I who have a Nano and a couple APX A1 Carrys mentioned how I've swapped parts and slides, and frames.
 
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