[bunk22]

So I normally stick to standard guns, like a stock G19, PDP, etc. Sights get changed but that's about it. Now I like the looks of the Shadow Systems guns and being I was thinking about buying a G43X, why not get the CR920. Well, hasn't gone well and what I've learned is I'm the second person to have purchased a CR920 from this gun shop. The first one had to be replaced for the same reasons I'm having, an inability to get through a single mag at this point, without multiple FTF. The gun started off like that at the range but improved on its first range visit. Well, has gone down hill since.

I was shooting my GX4, smaller and much less expensive, haven't had it jam on anything yet in hundreds of rounds. My old G43X never skipped a beat except in rare cases. My point in all this, when I spend $800 on a $400 gun I expect it to shoot like it. What good is a good looking, tactical gun if it doesn't work? Rant over.

Which is the better buy at this point?

 

[pag23]

It is a firing pin thing? Like issues with the striker or Spring? My local range had a Shadow Systems day but you were only allowed to fire 5 rounds.... I didn't partake as I at least would have ran a mag through it.

Personally I think this was rushed to market....they should keep building the basic MR920 at a decent price point....vs a price jump for optics ready..

 

[cciman]

Isn't the packaged custom-ized Glock with better looks (sporterized and tactified), the whole idea for the extra $$?

Other non-gun causes for your symptoms ruled out?: ammo, shooter?
Are you new to shooting, or to subcompact guns?
Have you tried various ammo?

 

[bunk22]

Isn't the packaged custom-ized Glock with better looks (sporterized and tactified), the whole idea for the extra $$?

Other non-gun causes for your symptoms ruled out?: ammo, shooter?
Are you new to shooting, or to subcompact guns?
Have you tried various ammo?

I am not new to shooting, I always shoot various ammo, not limp wristing and I have shot primarily Glocks through my years. Exact problem as the other CR920 that was replaced. Granted, a sample size of two but both having same issues. Oh yeah, SS said it was ammo, Fiocchi 124gr to be exact. So let me get the straight, your specialized, combat, elite can't shoot certain types of ammo. If that is the case, WWB, Speer Lawman 115gr, Speer 124gr JHP, Winchester Ranger 147gr are all out of specs as well.

I had a fantastic 19.3 Zev Defender that never missed a beat, paid about $1200 for it several years ago and that was my one specialized Glock to do the trick (taken in a self-defense case, a story for another time). I do like the looks of the SS and that's what we pay the extra money but it has to perform. I am sure most do but my worry is my sample of one, mine.

 

[cciman]

To expect a gun to work with any ammo fed into it, is not realistic, no matter what you paid or what the reputation of the gun is. In fact it goes counterintuitively: that the guns that should work with the widest spectrum of ammo is the factory off the shelf gun built for the widest user and abuser spectrum (like your Taurus), not the highly specialized custom gun with tight tolerances.

Don't take it personally, I did not mean to offend you, but those are the first items to rule out - and the most common causes.

Hope you find resolution. (BTW, I am not some fanboi of SS guns, as I think they are overpriced, dressed up, stolen tech, Glocks).

 

[Noboundries]

There is a break in period which I didn't see mentioned in the posts. But after 200rds you should be issue free. I've heard they have excellent customer service but blaming ammo doesn't sound like their typical support.

I've got a cr920 waiting for my sheriffs dept to clear it, and this is a bummer to read. Hopefully they get this sorted for you in quick order!

 

[hogarth]

Never be an early adopter.

 

[Noboundries]

I'm in Washington state so I didn't have a choice really. I have to get all my mags purchased before July 1st.

 

[Deployment Solu]

I believe I will delay my purchase of one for a bit til I hear if this was fixed..

 

[256673]

Shot several of the SS platform pistols, and not impressed in the least! I almost ordered one, but after shooting them I couldn’t give them back soon enough. If you pay that kinda dough for any pistol it should run ANY ammo you put thru it….

It’s just nonsense when any well made pistol won’t function with any brand, bullet weight, bullet type. Anything else is bravo sierra!

Do yourself a favor. Buy two 19’s, or 17’s or whatever flavor you prefer. Idc, but find one that you prefer and shoot well. Leave the Gucci Glocks to the larpers! It’s gonna save you a lot of headaches!

Regards,

 

[bunk22]

To expect a gun to work with any ammo fed into it, is not realistic, no matter what you paid or what the reputation of the gun is. In fact it goes counterintuitively: that the guns that should work with the widest spectrum of ammo is the factory off the shelf gun built for the widest user and abuser spectrum (like your Taurus), not the highly specialized custom gun with tight tolerances.

Don't take it personally, I did not mean to offend you, but those are the first items to rule out - and the most common causes.

Hope you find resolution. (BTW, I am not some fanboi of SS guns, as I think they are overpriced, dressed up, stolen tech, Glocks).

I didn't take it personally at all. I agree with the ammo usage, I just have that perception that it should. Shoot any gun long enough, you will have failures. I had a G19 and Sig M11A1, each with over 6000 rounds (a lot for a regular guy IMO) and there were of course malfunctions. Even a few from the get go is okay but not like this. I have a few weeks before I come back, they will get it fixed.

 

[bunk22]

Shot several of the SS platform pistols, and not impressed in the least! I almost ordered one, but after shooting them I couldn’t give them back soon enough. If you pay that kinda dough for any pistol it should run ANY ammo you put thru it….

It’s just nonsense when any well made pistol won’t function with any brand, bullet weight, bullet type. Anything else is bravo sierra!

Do yourself a favor. Buy two 19’s, or 17’s or whatever flavor you prefer. Idc, but find one that you prefer and shoot well. Leave the Gucci Glocks to the larpers! It’s gonna save you a lot of headaches!

Regards,

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I have plenty of standard Glocks and I agree, why I almost always buy stock stuff. I do like the SS looks, its tacticool mods but if it doesn't work, it ends up being a great looking paper weight. I think they will get it fixed and it will run fine. The first two CR920's from this gun shop probably came from the same build but hopefully it gets figured out. It is okay, I went and purchased my first Gen 5 G17, a Blue Label.

 

[syntaxerrorsix]

I am not new to shooting, I always shoot various ammo, not limp wristing and I have shot primarily Glocks through my years. Exact problem as the other CR920 that was replaced. Granted, a sample size of two but both having same issues. Oh yeah, SS said it was ammo, Fiocchi 124gr to be exact. So let me get the straight, your specialized, combat, elite can't shoot certain types of ammo. If that is the case, WWB, Speer Lawman 115gr, Speer 124gr JHP, Winchester Ranger 147gr are all out of specs as well.

I had a fantastic 19.3 Zev Defender that never missed a beat, paid about $1200 for it several years ago and that was my one specialized Glock to do the trick (taken in a self-defense case, a story for another time). I do like the looks of the SS and that's what we pay the extra money but it has to perform. I am sure most do but my worry is my sample of one, mine.

Fiocchi 124gr is fine ammo that runs a little hot. I'd be sending it back.

 

[bunk22]

Fiocchi 124gr is fine ammo that runs a little hot. I'd be sending it back.

Right? A BS excuse to cover two back to back defective guns sold at the store.

 

[Biggy1]

I took my CR920 out for the first time yesterday and ran 150 rds of 124gr FMJ ball ammo through mine with no problems at all. Of course I still need to run a decent amount of my FMJ HP carry ammo through it. Unfortunately in today’s world no matter what you buy or whose name is on it, it seems like there is a greater chance of buying something that has issues from the get go. IMHO, it’s sad but true and guns are no different.

 

[D20]

Personally, I'd try loading and unloading a magazine over and over again to weaken the spring some. Too much spring tension causes all kinds of malfunctions. My 43X was chocking too much for a Glock until near 700 rounds. By then, the mag spring was starting to become easier to compress. As the mag spring became weaker, the gun ran better. It became reliable after about 700 rounds, or so. I wouldn't suggest firing 700 rounds just to make it reliable, but you could use dummy rounds.
SS uses cheap mags.

 

[racer88]

I had a G19 and Sig M11A1, each with over 6000 rounds (a lot for a regular guy IMO) and there were of course malfunctions.

I have a Gen 2 Glock 19 - my first pistol - and I'm somewhere close to 10,000 rounds. I'm at 8,925 rounds officially... but I didn't keep track in the early days. So, easily 10k rounds. Not a single malfunction except when the trigger spring broke at around 7k "official" rounds. But, never a failure to feed or fire or eject.

I would be very disappointed with the SS gun for that money. Hell, my first P80 / G34 build has 1,490 rounds through it without a single malfunction.

 

[Fatboy2001]

Thanks for posting. I WAS thinking about one. I'll just stick with my flawless (but not cool) G48.
Also, if that pistol won't run Fiocchi 124 (good ammo) I don't want anything to do with it.

 

[bfarrow2214]

Never be an early adopter.

Maybe I just got lucky! Mine has ran flawlessly and I love it! I had a Glock 48 and the Cr920 runs smother than it did but that’s just my opinion!

 

[bunk22]

Im done with this gun, mine is a lemon. I'm sure it is a small percentage that have issues and unfortunately I was one. The shop bought it back but I lost money on it of course.