[wjv]

Scenario:
1) I live in State A, and work in State B 2-3 days a week

2) I have a carry permit for my State (A) but not State B. Out of state permits for State B are hard to get.

3) The office is on the west side of Portland. Lots of homeless, tents and such, but not rioters.

4) Work does not allow me to carry a gun, but I keep a firearm (unloaded) plus ammo in a locked case in my locked trunk. They probably have a rule against that also since I park "on-site", but "what they don't know. . ."

The purpose of that gun is a “get home gun” in the event of earthquakes, volcanic eruption (seriously), power failures, zombies, aliens, ANTIFA/BLM civil disturbances and such and I have to walk home or drive home in a hostile situation.

It is not for general CCW.
It is a Get Home Gun. .

Also, I cannot CCW for part of the trip, then pull over and unload the gun and lock it in the trunk as OR and WA are separated by the Columbia river and there are only two major bridges across the river. It would take me 10-15 extra minutes to exit I-5, do the gun stuff and get back on. I cannot simply remove the magazine as Oregon considers a firearm plus a loaded magazine = loaded gun, even if the mag is NOT in the gun.

I also keep emergency supplies in my trunk. A backpack filled with basics such as food, water, ponchos, flashlight, radio, matches, med kit, batteries, map, compass, rope, survival tent, survival bivvy & blankets, life straws, para-cord, ground cover and so on. I could grab that bag and have most of the essentials I need.

I also keep a box with extra supplies that are more event or season specific like spray on water proofing, a tarp, rope, car stuff, cooking supplies, extra clothes and such.

Back to the gun issue:
What would you pick for this task?

• Centerfire? - Can’t carry as much ammo. (75 rnds or so)
• Rimfire - Could carry 200 rounds which would be nice (i.e. premium CC ammo)
• Revolver?
• Pistol?
• Rifle? Not concealable, More intimidating?
• Breakdown 22LR?
• Other?

 

[nikerret]

G26

More concealable, but you can use larger mags as reloads.

 

[jimcorbin]

If a disaster happens, all rules go out the window. Carry what you are proficient with. I’d keep it in a backpack or a work type briefcase.

 

[bigsteve113]

G19. If there is a mag restriction, G26. If it’s a true SHTF situation, who gives a damn about CC permits and such.

 

[G29guy06]

Scenario:
1) I live in State A, and work in State B 2-3 days a week

2) I have a carry permit for my State (A) but not State B. Out of state permits for State B are hard to get.

3) The office is on the west side of Portland. Lots of homeless, tents and such, but not rioters.

4) Work does not allow me to carry a gun, but I keep a firearm (unloaded) plus ammo in a locked case in my locked trunk. They probably have a rule against that also since I park "on-site", but "what they don't know. . ."

The purpose of that gun is a “get home gun” in the event of earthquakes, volcanic eruption (seriously), power failures, zombies, aliens, ANTIFA/BLM civil disturbances and such and I have to walk home or drive home in a hostile situation.

It is not for general CCW.
It is a Get Home Gun. .

Also, I cannot CCW for part of the trip, then pull over and unload the gun and lock it in the trunk as OR and WA are separated by the Columbia river and there are only two major bridges across the river. It would take me 10-15 extra minutes to exit I-5, do the gun stuff and get back on. I cannot simply remove the magazine as Oregon considers a firearm plus a loaded magazine = loaded gun, even if the mag is NOT in the gun.

I also keep emergency supplies in my trunk. A backpack filled with basics such as food, water, ponchos, flashlight, radio, matches, med kit, batteries, map, compass, rope, survival tent, survival bivvy & blankets, life straws, para-cord, ground cover and so on. I could grab that bag and have most of the essentials I need.

I also keep a box with extra supplies that are more event or season specific like spray on water proofing, a tarp, rope, car stuff, cooking supplies, extra clothes and such.

Back to the gun issue:
What would you pick for this task?

• Centerfire? - Can’t carry as much ammo. (75 rnds or so)
• Rimfire - Could carry 200 rounds which would be nice (i.e. premium CC ammo)
• Revolver?
• Pistol?
• Rifle? Not concealable, More intimidating?
• Breakdown 22LR?
• Other?

G40 w/ 20rd mags plus CCW piece. Or at least a full size pistol and higher capacity mags. And the full size pistol be a higher caliber

 

[G29guy06]

I’d suggest an AR pistol which would be ideal in my opinion but you sound like you need a lower profile

 

[Ordell Robbie]

How often have you ever been pulled over out of state? How often has that stop ever turned into a search? If you keep your car insurance and registration up to date don't ask, don't tell, don't argue. Just take the ticket and move on...

 

[Doc Holliday]

In a survival situation, a .22LR pistol really is a good choice, because you'll need ammo, ammo, ammo...and you can carry a LOT of .22LR in a very small space. Dual use: Self Defense and taking small game for staying alive...I would go with a pistol for mobility and better to use in close quarters. Extra loaded mags as well.

That's my choice, anyhow.

 

[Stevekozak]

My chosen combo in a case like this is G19 AND a Sub2K. They will both fit in your backpack.

 

[Gatorhunter1313]

This is a question I have gone back and forth on for years. Right now my concealed carry is an m&p shield 9mm. I also carry my backpack with first aid kit, spare mags, some simple survival gear. I have been debating what to carry as a get home gun. I now have my beretta m9a3 in my backpack with a couple spare mags. I have been considering taking it out and carrying my TNW aero in 10mm or 9mm. It takes Glock mags and I have a bunch of 30+ round mags for it. It’s not light but it’s not that heavy for a backpack gun.

 

[Gatorhunter1313]

here’s my tnw with spare barrels in 9mm and 460 Rowland.

 

[Bus007]

G19, with standard 15 round mag and a bunch of 33 round mags.

 

[TheDreadnought]

Scenario:
1) I live in State A, and work in State B 2-3 days a week

2) I have a carry permit for my State (A) but not State B. Out of state permits for State B are hard to get.

3) The office is on the west side of Portland. Lots of homeless, tents and such, but not rioters.

4) Work does not allow me to carry a gun, but I keep a firearm (unloaded) plus ammo in a locked case in my locked trunk. They probably have a rule against that also since I park "on-site", but "what they don't know. . ."

The purpose of that gun is a “get home gun” in the event of earthquakes, volcanic eruption (seriously), power failures, zombies, aliens, ANTIFA/BLM civil disturbances and such and I have to walk home or drive home in a hostile situation.

It is not for general CCW.
It is a Get Home Gun. .

Also, I cannot CCW for part of the trip, then pull over and unload the gun and lock it in the trunk as OR and WA are separated by the Columbia river and there are only two major bridges across the river. It would take me 10-15 extra minutes to exit I-5, do the gun stuff and get back on. I cannot simply remove the magazine as Oregon considers a firearm plus a loaded magazine = loaded gun, even if the mag is NOT in the gun.

I also keep emergency supplies in my trunk. A backpack filled with basics such as food, water, ponchos, flashlight, radio, matches, med kit, batteries, map, compass, rope, survival tent, survival bivvy & blankets, life straws, para-cord, ground cover and so on. I could grab that bag and have most of the essentials I need.

I also keep a box with extra supplies that are more event or season specific like spray on water proofing, a tarp, rope, car stuff, cooking supplies, extra clothes and such.

Back to the gun issue:
What would you pick for this task?

• Centerfire? - Can’t carry as much ammo. (75 rnds or so)
• Rimfire - Could carry 200 rounds which would be nice (i.e. premium CC ammo)
• Revolver?
• Pistol?
• Rifle? Not concealable, More intimidating?
• Breakdown 22LR?
• Other?

We’ll let’s look at your requirements:

1. Concealable - no guarantee the situation will allow you to walk around openly with a weapon.

2. Light weight in case you’re walking a while.

3. High capacity - no guarantee how many attackers you might face.

4. Reliable.

Given these requirements, I’d go with a Beretta APX. Although any full sized 9mm pistol from an A-list company would do.

You might want to have a compact one that can share magazines with it, as well. Two is one, one is none.

Shoulder holster and a light fleece/raincoat/jacket for the primary. Secondary carry method is up to you. If it’s warm, just a regular belt holster. No ankle holsters! Will destroy your knee if you walk a lot.

 

[lesgeaux]

Take the time and effort to get permit for State B.

 

[wjv]

Well I tried various setups tonight.
Both the Henry AR-7 and the Feather AT-22 would fit into a soft case I had, along with 200 rounds of ammo, but it was a pretty big package.

Once assembled both end up being a full length rifle, though the stock on the Feather can collapse. This meant that once assembled you have a not very concealable firearm.

After that I tried a smaller case with various handguns. Tried a SP101 in 38+P, Gen 2 Glock 19 and a Mossberg MC2c. The SP101 was OK but it holds only 5 round and is slow to reload. And it's heavy (27 oz).

The Glock 19 and the MC2c weigh close to the same, but the MC2c is a bit thinner, a bit lighter, and has nicer sights.

So at least for mow I'm going with this:
Mossberg MC2c with six 13 round mags, 100 rounds of ammo, some gun oil, a cleaning rag and Q-Tips, and a holster.
Tommorow I need to dig through my ammo supply and find some boxes of fresh HP ammo. For now I'm using the boxes of round nose to test the sizing. Probably should also put a mag loader tool in there.
.

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[walkinguf61]

Scenario:
1) I live in State A, and work in State B 2-3 days a week

2) I have a carry permit for my State (A) but not State B. Out of state permits for State B are hard to get.

3) The office is on the west side of Portland. Lots of homeless, tents and such, but not rioters.

4) Work does not allow me to carry a gun, but I keep a firearm (unloaded) plus ammo in a locked case in my locked trunk. They probably have a rule against that also since I park "on-site", but "what they don't know. . ."

The purpose of that gun is a “get home gun” in the event of earthquakes, volcanic eruption (seriously), power failures, zombies, aliens, ANTIFA/BLM civil disturbances and such and I have to walk home or drive home in a hostile situation.

It is not for general CCW.
It is a Get Home Gun. .

Also, I cannot CCW for part of the trip, then pull over and unload the gun and lock it in the trunk as OR and WA are separated by the Columbia river and there are only two major bridges across the river. It would take me 10-15 extra minutes to exit I-5, do the gun stuff and get back on. I cannot simply remove the magazine as Oregon considers a firearm plus a loaded magazine = loaded gun, even if the mag is NOT in the gun.

I also keep emergency supplies in my trunk. A backpack filled with basics such as food, water, ponchos, flashlight, radio, matches, med kit, batteries, map, compass, rope, survival tent, survival bivvy & blankets, life straws, para-cord, ground cover and so on. I could grab that bag and have most of the essentials I need.

I also keep a box with extra supplies that are more event or season specific like spray on water proofing, a tarp, rope, car stuff, cooking supplies, extra clothes and such.

Back to the gun issue:
What would you pick for this task?

• Centerfire? - Can’t carry as much ammo. (75 rnds or so)
• Rimfire - Could carry 200 rounds which would be nice (i.e. premium CC ammo)
• Revolver?
• Pistol?
• Rifle? Not concealable, More intimidating?
• Breakdown 22LR?
• Other?

The rifle In a get home situation is going to a red flag. Unless it’s Mad Max time, not advisable. Carrying a breakdown rifle or shotgun concealed while walking might not be accessible quick enough in attacked.

Your firearm should be ultra concealable. Grey man tactics to get home if it comes to that. You aren’t going to do the BS in those “get home” survival fiction books and shoot your way past illegal roadblocks by robbers. It’s for immediate self protection and deterrence in order to evidence/escape only.

Is a speed strip or speed loader with a revolver considered loaded as the rounds in a magazine is? If not, a consider a revolver for such a trip with a lockbox with a electronic pop open RFID feature. You see trouble on the horizon , put the lock box with you in the front and pop it out if only necessary if you want to avoid illegalities if I am reading OR law right. I’m just gleaming over the laws there and I am not that familiar with them- so take it with a grain of salt.
If you have to walk home, you can have a holster in the car to transfer the gun to. Is open carry legal there in that part of the state. You can always carry the lock box if you want not worry about legalities until you do get to an open carry area.
If you aren’t worried about possession criminal liability, such as getting a permit , ( it’s easier if you attempt to get a part time job as a guard in most places), put a Glock 19 or 26 or similar pistol.
Remember that law and order tends come back eventually and any self defense shooting might be on trial. Have a plausible reason to have the pistol in the car other than in case of SHTF. Join a gun range out there and occasionally shoot after work.

Just somethings to consider.

 

[rfd339]

Px4 storm compact in 9mm or 40sw.
Or g23 of g19..

 

[walkinguf61]

Well I tried various setups tonight.
Both the Henry AR-7 and the Feather AT-22 would fit into a soft case I had, along with 200 rounds of ammo, but it was a pretty big package.

Once assembled both end up being a full length rifle, though the stock on the Feather can collapse. This meant that once assembled you have a not very concealable firearm.

After that I tried a smaller case with various handguns. Tried a SP101 in 38+P, Gen 2 Glock 19 and a Mossberg MC2c. The SP101 was OK but it holds only 5 round and is slow to reload. And it's heavy (27 oz).

The Glock 19 and the MC2c weigh close to the same, but the MC2c is a bit thinner, a bit lighter, and has nicer sights.

So at least for mow I'm going with this:
Mossberg MC2c with six 13 round mags, 100 rounds of ammo, some gun oil, a cleaning rag and Q-Tips, and a holster.
Tommorow I need to dig through my ammo supply and find some boxes of fresh HP ammo. For now I'm using the boxes of round nose to test the sizing. Probably should also put a mag loader tool in there.
.

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You aren’t going to need a mag loader tool. Less is more.
You aren’t going to need 200 rounds unless you are going to be out there for weeks or more.
I doubt you would have time, the desire or the chance to hunt for food either. It’s just to get home, correct?
You aren’t going to be a combat soldier or marine . You probably won’t need the combat load they carry. A couple of reloads should more than be enough if needed at all. A cop here was only required on patrol to have 3 15 round magazines for a semi auto with one in the chamber or 18 rounds for a revolver. And this was for guys running toward the gunfire. One box of fifty rounds should be more than enough and easier to explain if you had too. A hundred rounds seems like it’s more than enough especially if you do go shooting at a range nearby, it’s explainable and not a crazy amount of weight to carry if you had to.

And if I was involved in having to shoot in a self defense situation, I think I would rather have something larger than a .22 for a quicker incapacitation of the attacker eventhough.22 rounds are lethal

It’s just my opinion but your choice. You know the threat and area better than most of us.

 

[gunowner1]

Well I tried various setups tonight.
Both the Henry AR-7 and the Feather AT-22 would fit into a soft case I had, along with 200 rounds of ammo, but it was a pretty big package.

Once assembled both end up being a full length rifle, though the stock on the Feather can collapse. This meant that once assembled you have a not very concealable firearm.

After that I tried a smaller case with various handguns. Tried a SP101 in 38+P, Gen 2 Glock 19 and a Mossberg MC2c. The SP101 was OK but it holds only 5 round and is slow to reload. And it's heavy (27 oz).

The Glock 19 and the MC2c weigh close to the same, but the MC2c is a bit thinner, a bit lighter, and has nicer sights.

So at least for mow I'm going with this:
Mossberg MC2c with six 13 round mags, 100 rounds of ammo, some gun oil, a cleaning rag and Q-Tips, and a holster.
Tommorow I need to dig through my ammo supply and find some boxes of fresh HP ammo. For now I'm using the boxes of round nose to test the sizing. Probably should also put a mag loader tool in there.
.

.

Nice setup.

 

[DaleGribble]

Scenario:
1) I live in State A, and work in State B 2-3 days a week

2) I have a carry permit for my State (A) but not State B. Out of state permits for State B are hard to get.

3) The office is on the west side of Portland. Lots of homeless, tents and such, but not rioters.

4) Work does not allow me to carry a gun, but I keep a firearm (unloaded) plus ammo in a locked case in my locked trunk. They probably have a rule against that also since I park "on-site", but "what they don't know. . ."

The purpose of that gun is a “get home gun” in the event of earthquakes, volcanic eruption (seriously), power failures, zombies, aliens, ANTIFA/BLM civil disturbances and such and I have to walk home or drive home in a hostile situation.

It is not for general CCW.
It is a Get Home Gun. .

Also, I cannot CCW for part of the trip, then pull over and unload the gun and lock it in the trunk as OR and WA are separated by the Columbia river and there are only two major bridges across the river. It would take me 10-15 extra minutes to exit I-5, do the gun stuff and get back on. I cannot simply remove the magazine as Oregon considers a firearm plus a loaded magazine = loaded gun, even if the mag is NOT in the gun.

I also keep emergency supplies in my trunk. A backpack filled with basics such as food, water, ponchos, flashlight, radio, matches, med kit, batteries, map, compass, rope, survival tent, survival bivvy & blankets, life straws, para-cord, ground cover and so on. I could grab that bag and have most of the essentials I need.

I also keep a box with extra supplies that are more event or season specific like spray on water proofing, a tarp, rope, car stuff, cooking supplies, extra clothes and such.

Back to the gun issue:

Carry a gun when you can. When in doubt, err on the side of carrying a gun when you can.

I would not worry about CCW laws in a disaster.

If a disaster happens, all rules go out the window. Carry what you are proficient with.

For God's sakes, this.

I’d keep it in a backpack or a work type briefcase.

This is where I disagree. The situation the OP presented is literally about surviving, escaping, and making it to your chosen destination. Carry your gun on you, in a readily accessible manner that will allow for quick presentation and use. Panicked people quickly become predatory when their basic needs are threatened. Predators will predate on people that look like prey AND even ones that don't if said person has things of value. We see this all the time when police officers get attacked and even when armed people are attacked, usually in coordinated ambush-style attacks.

Police won't be looking for CCW carriers and they won't be arresting them either. They'll be too busy with other higher priority issues; if they even stay on the job.

That's just my .02 cents.