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Ruger LCP Max - New 10+1 double stack .380
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According to Ruger's website, the LCP width is 0.82, the LCP 2 slide width is 0.75 and the Max slide width is 0.81. So my question is how thin do you want it to not be a deal-breaker and what options meet your preferred criteria?
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The grip is going to be the thickest part on this gun.
Does anyone now how wide it is at its thickest?
I would want it to still be only slightly over an inch thick at most....
I called Ruger just now. The tech didn't have the exact dimension but said it's a 'tad' wider than the LCP 2. My LCP 2 at the widest part on the back strap is 14/16th. So I would 'guess' the Max at 1 inch at it's widest give or take a 1/16th either way. Someone with one should measure and report.
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0.950 inch
Somebody probably sells a slip-on grip if you want it thicker.
It meets (exceeds) your specifications.
#1 Slide width (minimum)
#2 Slide width at the “wings”
#3 Grip max width
-Wlf
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Thanks for that.
I figured someone would be able to put calipers on it!
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Beaten to the punch with the measurements. I plan tomorrow to have some comparison photos to share of the LCP, LCP II, and the Max. I now have 2 of the Max's and find them as useful as the LCP II's. Currently have one AIWB strong side and the other pocketed on my off side while wearing a suit. A definite upgrade from the II's with all of the ergonomics along with an improved front sight.
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For comparison:
#1 Slide width (minimum) LCP MAX: .75" LCP: .73"
#2 Slide width at the “wings” LCP MAX: .817" LCP: N/A
#3 Grip max width LCP MAX: .925" LCP: .78"
I think I can tolerate .15" more grip width to gain the extra rounds, the more comfortable grip, and the racking wings.
#1 Slide width (minimum) LCP MAX: .75" LCP: .73"
#2 Slide width at the “wings” LCP MAX: .817" LCP: N/A
#3 Grip max width LCP MAX: .925" LCP: .78"
I think I can tolerate .15" more grip width to gain the extra rounds, the more comfortable grip, and the racking wings.
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Most helpful. Thank you!
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Got mine yesterday, $349 at my LGS.
It's dethroned my G42, which I am now planning on selling. I can't see choosing to carry a 6+1 larger than a 10+1.
I'll note, for the record:
- The LCP Max is very easy to rack
- Recoil is very manageable
- I CANNOT make it FTE or FTF via limp-wristing
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I held an LCP Max in my hand a couple of days ago and, in an uncharacteristic display of self-restraint, did not purchase it. (It was offered at $359.) I probably will attempt to purchase it tomorrow, if it is still around. However, I don't see it displacing my Glock 42 until I can chronograph my ammo and shoot enough rounds at various objects to determine that the loss of .425" of barrel length isn't going to further diminish the already marginal effectiveness of the caliber.
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I understand what you're saying.
I found a chart comparing the PPK/S and the LCPII in terms of velocity. Probably the closest you'll find without a whole lot of digging or doing the work yourself.
If we go with the 90 grain numbers, looks like the LCP will cost you about 100 feet per second, so 970 feet per second turns into 870.
If you get top-quality .380 rounds that can make it to the high end of the FBI's acceptable range for penetration when shut out of a normal .380 pistol, it would stand to reason that they should still make it within bounds when they lose 10% of their punch.
Chart:
Link:
BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: .380 Auto Results
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www.ballisticsbytheinch.com
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Google ballistics by the inch.I understand what you're saying.
I found a chart comparing the PPK/S and the LCPII in terms of velocity. Probably the closest you'll find without a whole lot of digging or doing the work yourself.
If we go with the 90 grain numbers, looks like the LCP will cost you about 100 feet per second, so 970 feet per second turns into 870.
If you get top-quality .380 rounds that can make it to the high end of the FBI's acceptable range for penetration when shut out of a normal .380 pistol, it would stand to reason that they should still make it within bounds when they lose 10% of their punch.
Chart:
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Link:
BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: .380 Auto Results
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That's where I got the charts from.
They're good guys, I'm sad it isn't updating any more, but if you're not getting paid to do something you can't always do it.
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I already have done a lot of chrono and media testing with my Glock 42 and a wide variety of ammo, so I only have to do a bit of selective testing with the LCP Max before drawing a conclusion.
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I still think the first gen keltec p3at was the best of the bunch. Smaller than the rest, better grip checking. A bit ugly compared to the Ruger, but nobody ever sees it anyway.
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It's kind of funny how some of the same people saying the 1 penny difference in width between a G43 and the LCP is too much are the same people saying the 3 penny difference between the LCP and P3AT is no big deal.
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I can confirm that, with a mere 40 rounds downrange, the LCP Max that I bought yesterday will be going down the road as soon as I can get rid of it without taking too much of a bath. It is a well designed gun but the terrible, long, creepy trigger causes terrible accuracy and the recoil is noticeably more than my Glock 42, which is closer to a .22 LR. I will gladly spot the extra rounds for, at least for me, a far superior fighting gun. (My Glock has Ameriglo Agent sights.) I can do better at 25 yards with the Glock than I can at 15 yards with the Ruger, and at a faster pace. I am sure that Ruger will sell a ton of these, but I bet they won't be getting shot very much. My 42 is a very reliable fun gun and I like to shoot it on a regular basis.
I feel like an idiot for getting sucked in by the hype and the extra capacity.
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Sorry for the lost time and money, but thanks for reporting your experience with it.
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I'm surprised by this review. The trigger is different than a Glock trigger but it is not terrible, long, or creepy. It has quite a bit of travel or take-up, but once I hit the wall, apply a little more pressure and I get a clean break. I do not have any discernable creep in mine. A long trigger would be on the first LCP, or a Keltec PF9, or a Sig P290... all double action pistols. My LCP Max definitely does not have a long trigger.
I'm not surprised about the recoil, as the Glock 42 is almost 32% heavier than the LCP Max. But I did not find the LCP Max as uncomfortable to shoot. One hundred rounds through it on the first range visit with no issue.
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