[ViperR]

That's what I was thinking too, Crane1. The polymer slide is molded over the metal skeleton during production. They did reuse the metal.

 

[ss58]

Damn!! I thought I had a regular Glock?
Anybody wanna buy my Limited Edition Irregular Glock. I'll let it go for $1400.00 I need a Langdon Tactical Beretta. First one to respond. Must ship to FFL Bank check or postal money order. Thanks

Sam

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[DrewBone]

The only reason it didn't end up that way was they reused the metal part of the old slide and the old barrel. Try getting a slide replaced on a regular GLOCK and see where you get.

PLEASE!

It's my understanding that the G44 is made both in Austria and here in the US, so if Glock can produce a serial number here in the US on a newly US manufactured slide to match the serial number on a newly US manufactured barrel and frame, then certainly they have the ability to produce any serial number they want on a bare newly US manufactured slide.

And please correct me if I'm wrong, but replacing the polymer section of the G44 slide is not simply a matter of "popping" the polymer out of the steel insert and "popping" in a new polymer section, is it? If so I'd be completely shocked.

Either way none of this involves magic, it's just a slide which can easily be replaced/substituted - which doesn't require serialization anyway.

Glock refuses to replace steel slides because none of those are breaking apart. These broken/cracked polymer/steel composite G44 slides are a whole different ball game which I believe has embarrassed and forced Glock into previously unheard of territory.

 

[Doc Holliday]

And please correct me if I'm wrong, but replacing the polymer section of the G44 slide is not simply a matter of "popping" the polymer out of the steel insert and "popping" in a new polymer section, is it? If so I'd be completely shocked.

Yea, there's no way Glock is going to take the time to separate the $2 of polymer from the $3 steel insert, and then send it back to a customer, after it's been involved in a failure. No way. Delusional.

 

[ViperR]

Just a take on it, wrong or right. Bite my head off will you. You guys can be so mean.
And this would be the 1st time I heard of Glock replacing a slide and stamping on the original serial number.
And so, you know for a fact that that is what they did or did not do? Didn't know you guys work there and know for sure. Or is this just the usual internet self-expert opinions that clog up the threads?

 

[Crane1]

I don't work @ GI, but I've had lots of dealings with them. If they restamped the slide, it would be the first that I have knowledge of. I'm just going by historical evidence/experience.

 

[Bradley T]

That gun was totally mis-used somehow.

 

[Crane1]

Glock refuses to replace steel slides because none of those are breaking apart.

I beg to differ. I own a G19.3 that had a cracked slide. It was sent to GI and came back with a new slide with a different SN with an L, IIRC. I no longer own the replacement slide as I sold it and installed a optic aftermarket slide.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Just a take on it, wrong or right. Bite my head off will you. You guys can be so mean.
And this would be the 1st time I heard of Glock replacing a slide and stamping on the original serial number.
And so, you know for a fact that that is what they did or did not do? Didn't know you guys work there and know for sure. Or is this just the usual internet self-expert opinions that clog up the threads?

They did reuse the metal.

Do YOU know for a fact that is what they did or did not do? Didn't know you work there and know for sure. Quit clogging up the thread with your self-expert opinion.

You state your opinion and then call out others for doing the same. THAT is the very definition of being a hypocrite.

Now, back in the real world, do you really think it's worth Glock to pay someone to sit there and separate the polymer slide from the steel rail, inspect/magnaflux it for damage and refurbish it to working condition, instead of just chucking it into a bin and then simply putting a new slide into the engraving machine for 30 seconds? Especially when that original part was involved in a catastrophic failure? NO WAY.

 

[DJ Niner]

All that unnecessary angst from others about a 'mismatched' FrankenGlock gun...

"Oh my God, the world is ending, the world is ending! The numbers won't match, in case 20 years down the road some collector wants to buy it!"

PLEASE.


OP: Glad to see they took care of it for you. Enjoy!

It's not "unnecessary angst"; it's a fact that some (many?) buyers will not buy a Glock with mismatched numbers, or alternatively, won't pay the same price as they would for a Glock with matched numbers. I've heard this from several different retailers, and asked them why it was so. They've told me that folks consider a Glock with mismatched numbers to have had a serious problem at some point in the past, such as a blown-up barrel, cracked slide, or damaged frame, and they just won't buy it unless it is priced significantly lower.

In 2013, I found a nice used Gen3 G23 in a local shop for less than $300. I looked it over carefully, and thought the frame looked REALLY clean ("minty"), where the slide/barrel were showing a bit of use. Then I noticed the frame had a number "1" in front of the serial number, a sign that the frame had been replaced at the factory under warranty. When I talked to the salesguy, he told me he'd had multiple people look at it, and a few start to buy it, then when they saw the serial numbers didn't match, they'd back-out of the deal. The store had marked it down, and then marked it down again. When I found it, it was $75-$80 cheaper than another Glock of the same model and caliber, and in nicer condition, overall. I bought it and carried/used it for several years with no problems, before trading it off for another Glock.

Finding Glocks with mismatched numbers was more common 7-8 years or so ago, as there were a lot of E-series Gen3 pistols floating around in shops with frames that had recently been replaced by the factory due to the frame-rail "upgrade" Glock had offered to affected owners. I still see one from time to time, but not as often as I used to see them.

 

[ss58]

Ok. Fact. The pictures on the OP clearly show the slide in multiple pieces.
I sent the pistol back to Glock.
It was returned with the sn stamped on it.
I did not put the sn on it.

Conjecture from keyboard commandos
Too much to point out
The pistol was misused??? Take a hike bro.

Sam

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[DrewBone]

I beg to differ. I own a G19.3 that had a cracked slide. It was sent to GI and came back with a new slide with a different SN with an L, IIRC. I no longer own the replacement slide as I sold it and installed a optic aftermarket slide.

Thanks for posting, 'first I've heard of this.

 

[CBTENGR]

WOW! all the arguing over how the OP's slide was repaired or replaced :duel:

The main thing is that Glock took care of the customer and returned a fully functional pistol to him.

Do any of us really know how his slide broke? Was it abused or have manufacturing flaws? And I have seen other brands break at the same spot too.

I'm at 4,000+ rounds with my G44 with the old style extractor and am going to keep shooting it until it breaks or just plain wears out.

 

[DrewBone]

WOW! all the arguing over how the OP's slide was repaired or replaced :duel:

The main thing is that Glock took care of the customer and returned a fully functional pistol to him.

...

Noone's arguing; folks are merely stating their opinions on the subject, for after all, this is a discussion forum. Only those who favor Glock products seem to take offense to those with opinions that differ from theirs.

Anyway, to further muddy the waters, has anyone here had a really good look at the paperwork that was returned with the OP's pistol? Notice on line item "(Pos. No.) 5.2"...the part identified under "Item Number/Item Decription" is described as:

39685S
Service Part GLOCK 44
Serial numbers
AEHR939

I've searched everywhere, even through what I believe to be the latest Glock Certified Armorer parts list, and I have not been able to identify Glock part #39685S, but since all the other parts on the list can be clearly identified it would appear that part #39685S would be the OP's NEW SLIDE. Why else would the OP's serial number have been noted under the part # and printed in BOLD text??? Because this was the serial number that was engraved in the blank replacement slide to match that of the OP's G44 pistol frame.

Glock is one of the few manufacturers who are conceited enough to feel that they have to engrave serial numbers on parts that don't require it by law, which as noted elsewhere in this discussion causes Glock pistols with different serial numbers about them to be shunned as "undesirable", which not only causes their integrity to be questioned but their value immediately decreased as well. Meanwhile, the vast majority of pistols from other manufacturers can have their barrels swapped out and noone would know or even care. What's that say about Glock?

It's still my belief that the OP received his G44 back with a brand new bare G44 slide that was simply pulled out of a parts bin at the Smyrna facility, which then had the pistol's original serial number engraved into it, it's new slide parts installed, assembled onto the pistol frame and function tested, then returned to the OP.

There's nothing to argue about, it's simply my opinion based on observation, deduction, common sense, and logic. And it certainly wouldn't upset me in the least if anyone disagreed with my above summation so fire away I gotz my big boy pants on

 

[Jim Watson]

Glock is one of the few manufacturers who are conceited enough to feel that they have to engrave serial numbers on parts that don't require it by law, .

A harsh appraisal.
Numbering parts not required to be numbered in the USA is a fine old European custom going back at least to the days of the Luger where every gun was individually fitted twice, soft and hard, and you had best keep the bits together. Not just European, consider the "fitting numbers" on a pre-CNC/MIM Smith and Wesson.

I think a Glock is a commodity item and using one up and replacing it or repairing it with "non-matching" parts does not bother me.

I think I understand the rationale behind the design of the G44, that it should look and work as nearly like the more durable centerfires as possible. They could have made a better gun with a Glock shaped butt but a lot of mechanical differences, but it would not have been as "Glockish."

The OP is lucky that they fixed a training gun in commercial use, some brands wouldn't do that.

 

[wickedbeernut]

I think we just helped Jeremy Nelson sell a few more 44X slides to instructors concerned with the safety of their students, to grandfathers concerned with the safety of the their grandchildren, ...

 

[oldmick]

It happens. Here's my S&W 22A. Granted, it had about 30,000 rounds down range but still...

 

[DJ Niner]

Glock is one of the few manufacturers who are conceited enough to feel that they have to engrave serial numbers on parts that don't require it by law...

(snip)

Well, they don't require it by law HERE, but Glock sells pistols in many countries besides the USA, and I've heard from some overseas users that pistol barrels require serial numbers in some other countries (kind of makes sense, as that's the part that actually touches and launches the bullet). These users were intrigued that U.S. citizens could mail- or internet-order barrels and have them delivered to our door, as that was definitely NOT an option where they resided.

 

[DrewBone]

(snip)

Well, they don't require it by law HERE, but Glock sells pistols in many countries besides the USA, and I've heard from some overseas users that pistol barrels require serial numbers in some other countries (kind of makes sense, as that's the part that actually touches and launches the bullet). These users were intrigued that U.S. citizens could mail- or internet-order barrels and have them delivered to our door, as that was definitely NOT an option where they resided.

Understood, but since the US represents such a huge market to Glock and they're manufactured right here in this country where no such requirement exists, you'd think they'd end the unnecessary practice of serializing the frame, slide, and barrel on pistols manufactured and sold here in the US.

Tradition or not, there's no valid reason for a 100% fully functional Glock pistol with a serial number on a barrel or slide that differs from that which is engraved in the frame to suffer unnecessary devaluation, yet there it is. No other pistols that are manufactured here in the US are subjected to such instantanious loss of value under the same circumstance...

 

[CBTENGR]

(snip)

Well, they don't require it by law HERE, but Glock sells pistols in many countries besides the USA, and I've heard from some overseas users that pistol barrels require serial numbers in some other countries (kind of makes sense, as that's the part that actually touches and launches the bullet). These users were intrigued that U.S. citizens could mail- or internet-order barrels and have them delivered to our door, as that was definitely NOT an option where they resided.

You are correct in that a lot of European Countries, the slide and/or barrel are the serialized part of the firearm.

Understood, but since the US represents such a huge market to Glock and they're manufactured right here in this country where no such requirement exists, you'd think they'd end the unnecessary practice of serializing the frame, slide, and barrel on pistols manufactured and sold here in the US.

Tradition or not, there's no valid reason for a 100% fully functional Glock pistol with a serial number on a barrel or slide that differs from that which is engraved in the frame to suffer unnecessary devaluation, yet there it is. No other pistols that are manufactured here in the US are subjected to such instantanious loss of value under the same circumstance...

Also a very valid point made. But who knows if and how many Glock pistols made in the USA are sold in other markets where all the serial numbers must be present.

I see the validity of both sides of the argument about having the barrel and slide serialized. There is absolutely no need for it here in the USA. But again how many US made pistols get sent to other countries that do require barrels and slides to have serial numbers. From a manufacturers stand point, I can see making all of their products the same no matter what market they are sold in. It simplifies production.