I think you should get your ass out of CA. I think that is where you should start your decision-making.

 

Buy an AR they are legal

 

Diversify your portfolio- make sure you get both if you don't already have them. A good lever gun never goes out of style.

 

Diversity is the answer. My Lever Action is a Marlin Alaskan 45/70. Red Dot Aimpoint mounted. Ideal for bear country protection.

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At the earliest any firearm legislation won’t be passed until 2021 but it won’t happen.

2018 -Midterms - Nothing will be passed
2020 - Presidential election - Nothing will be passed

Historical precendent says Trump easily wins in 2020, so at the earliest 2025 is when you need to be concerned.

Now that only addresses national elections. As for California, your guess is as good as mine but I’d get a CA complaint AR as they’ll never be able to confiscate ARs even if they ban them, there will be too many court challenges and the Supreme Court will not condone that.

 

A good lever action is never a mistake.

 

I have a friend that went to Gunsite in the early nineties and, IIRC, one of the weapons they recommended for home defense was a Winchester Model 94 Trapper with top eject in .357 magnum or .44 magnum.

 

I'd say within 100 yards and 10 rounds, that will do anything an AR will do, only better.

If your home defense plan involves shooting people over 100 yards away and spraying 30 rounds, you need to rethink the plan or learn more about prison life, anyhow.

 

I know my Marlin 336Y JM Spikehorn 30-30
With its 16inch barrel is a handy carbine .. I'd have zero worries about useing it in a self defense roll .. I'd say 125gr HP would be a good choice for SD fodder ...
But Winchester 150gr would do ... Id say they mybe a bit of over pentration...

Another Levergun option would be a Henry in 22 magnum ...actually would be a sound choice .. With the right ammo
The 22 magnum is no slouch out of a carbine

 

I know my Marlin 336Y JM Spikehorn 30-30
With its 16inch barrel is a handy carbine .. I'd have zero worries about useing it in a self defense roll .. I'd say 125gr HP would be a good choice for SD fodder ...
But Winchester 150gr would do ... Id say they mybe a bit of over pentration...

Another Levergun option would be a Henry in 22 magnum ...actually would be a sound choice .. With the right ammo
The 22 magnum is no slouch out of a carbine

Latest issue of American Rifleman also highlighted a leveraction that Henry makes that is available in .243 Win, .308 Win and .223 Rem.

 

Get both

 

This...


Lever guns are cool, Ar's are cool. I'll get one when I have some spendin' money.


****, get an AK, FAL, or a whatever else too..

 

This latest round of "evil" guns and magazines seems to have more of a life to it than in the past. I'm skeptical that this will be the time for another AWB. That said, people that point to the political costs of the '94 ban may be surprised at how times have changed going forward. The tide is rising in the ban rhetoric.

I have built my firearm collection with political trends front and center. It helps that I actually am more drawn to the more traditional guns. I could have every base covered if moving to the current NY, et al.... or even if a complete semi-auto ban happened. I have an AR and several "high capacity" handguns and have no plans to abandon them because of their practical uses.

IF I lived in California, I'd go with a lever gun. It is my understanding that there are already so many restrictions on AR platform guns that I'd choose to bypass all that BS and get a gun to enjoy.

Kentucky Shooter has is right. "Political diversity" is a wise concept going forward for our carry/HD options.

 

You mean if they outlaw AR15's everyone is gonna comply, surrender them, and get lever rifles?

 

No!

I'm asking if it would be wise to begin the search for alternative now instead of competing with everyone after a ban was to happen.

 

I own an actual Marlin 1894CS .357 carbine (not Remington). It's a great gun.

 

A good lever-action gun is always a good choice. They're just fun to shoot. .30 X .30 is the classic caliber, but you could always get a .243 Win. I'd take that over an AR any day of the week, and twice on Sundays.

 

A 30-30 Winchester is good in so many ways it's almost a sin not to own one.
http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/in-defense-of-the-30-30-winchester/

 

I think it is past time that you either vote those chitheads out of office in CA or we give it back to Mexico. Si se puede. Newsom has his eyes on a presidential run I believe.

 

When my brother from WV comes to visit we go out and shoot an AR 15 and a Glock 19 set up just like what he has at home. This makes it easy not having to fly with firearms.

One time I took a Winchester pre 64 with receiver sight and shot off hand at a 100 yard silhouette target and nailed it. I then shot at the 200 yard steel plate (12"X12") and nailed again off hand. I did this to show my brother that just because some old guy with an 30-30 lever gun looks under gun may not be an easy target.

Lever actions guns have gone up in price. You might consider "collecting" a good shooting M1 rifle. Also a good off most people list is a FN 49. Old fashion semi auto battle rifles with 10 shot or less non detachable magazines.

 

When my brother from WV comes to visit we go out and shoot an AR 15 and a Glock 19 set up just like what he has at home. This makes it easy not having to fly with firearms.

One time I took a Winchester pre 64 with receiver sight and shot off hand at a 100 yard silhouette target and nailed it. I then shot at the 200 yard steel plate (12"X12") and nailed again off hand. I did this to show my brother that just because some old guy with an 30-30 lever gun looks under gun may not be an easy target.

Lever actions guns have gone up in price. You might consider "collecting" a good shooting M1 rifle. Also a good off most people list is a FN 49. Old fashion semi auto battle rifles with 10 shot or less non detachable magazines.

Double-dog dittos on the Garand and FN49- especially the FN49, it's a solid and under-appreciated battle rifle. It is (IMO) better than the Garand because it doesnt require the special clips used in the Garand, without which the M1 will not function. Likewise the FN49 can be topped off without use of a clip...
When the Cliton 94 ban was in effect I owned several of both, with the FN's in 8mm Mauser, which was at the time in plentiful supply, and I stacked it wide and deep as they say. Aside from being as heavy as a ship anchor, the FN is a fine rifle and proved to be a "gateway" rifle as it fueled my abiding interest in the FN-FAL.
The FN49 can sometimes be found in 30-06 and even in .308 if you look hard enuff.
FWIW I also invested in .357 and .44 magnum Marlins, just in case they came for all semi-autos, figured either caliber in a carbine would ruin someone's day.
Another useful option might be a .303 Enfield (10 round attached magazine, loadable with clips or fingers). Finding stocks of good .303 ammo is tough today tho... I lucked into a bunch of ww2 Winchester-made for Lend Lease(!) .303 which had been re-imported prior to the GCA-68. And I set up for reloading so ammo supply wasnt a problem for me. And the .303 Enfield is a good round, very effective.
A mess of them in .308 were imported some years ago from either India or Pakistan, most that I saw were in well-used but pretty good shape.
Finding one in good shape might be a trick nowadays but there are still some out there.

 

Lever guns are the original assault rifle! **** yeah you should have one......or two!!

In my youth I had a bunch of AR15's & AR platform rifles and they were fun at the range. Ammo was also $1.50 ~ $2.00 a box, so mag dumps were cheap.
Now a bit older, I don't own one and really don't miss them at all. Definitely not running out to purchase one and honestly, I hated loading 30 round mags at the range. They got in the way when on the bench as well. Aluminum 20 rounders were my go to magazine for the AR.
Not at all saying they should, can, or will ban anything. Just saying me personally, I'll happily take 5 to 10+ rounds of 357/44, 30-30, 243, 308, etc.. in a lever gun and not concern myself much with what I might find on the other end of it.

Or just get both problem solved

 

Is it time to start looking for a deal on the old reliable lever gun?

I say it's time to storm the Capitol.

 

If all the gun owners in america would just vote a straight republican ticket, i think you would see a lot of this B/S disappear of it's own volition. Sadly, this won't happen though, too much apathy and ignorance out there. A large number of gun owners don't vote period.

 

Used to shoot cowboy back in the day. Nothing wrong with a lever action.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1BwUJ4--Qw

 

Used to shoot cowboy back in the day. Nothing wrong with a lever action.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1BwUJ4--Qw

And, in spite of the title, I'm thinking there are plenty faster.

 

A good lever gun backed up with a good wheel-gun is my usual "vacation battery".

Don't have to worry about local BS mag restrictions, etc. that way and there are only a couple of states where you need a permit to even own guns - not like I'll be vacationing in NY any time soon.

To answer your question, "Yes, you should have a good lever gun and you need a good wheel-gun to back it up". Whether or not Kali bans all self loaders in the near term - or if the feds do because of fallout from this bumpstock BS fiasco -you need to learn the older tech too.

Can't really be a well rounded gun guy unless you can handle a pump, lever, and wheelgun as well as a semiauto. It would be like saying you're a car guy but you can't drive a stick.

Grumpy

 

The current anti-gun rhetoric is just knee jerk emotional reaction to a tragedy. Once thing calm down cooler down cooler heads will prevail and the rhetoric with tone down, except in places like Venezuela...I mean California, which are already so effed up there is not looking back.

While having a lever gun is always a good idea, buying one because of the possibility of a AR ban is just silly.

 

Just a short story. One of the black powder/antique/traditional arms writers for a gun rag was invited to attend a LEO training session at one of the better known training centers. The instructor asked that he just bring one of his leverguns to the fray. There was a lot of snickering and side looks as the elite uncased their dressed up custom AR type weapons. At the end of the first days training after the expenditure of a large quantity of rounds the instructor remarked that the attendees needed to look at the result of the levergun shooters targets. "His bullet holes are all in the middle of the targets". Nuf said!

 

There will be no national AWB.

It's time to shoot my AR15 style rifle some more.

 

It’s time to leave Commiefornia my friend.

 

I have several AR's that are terrific semi auto rifles and I have several lever actions.
IMO the lever action is also a terrific rifle.
I think every shooter should have at least one of each.

 

A few years back Remington made a 7615 or something like that, it was a cross between the 7600 rifle, or like an 870 rifle that used AR magazines. I think it was made to compete in the police market, sell a rifle to them that was just like their police shotguns but a rifle. Pump action to me is faster than lever action, or at least more natural, and it uses hi cap mags that you can find anywhere. Now might be a time for such a rifle to make a resounding comeback.

 

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I know of a sheriffs dept. that tried these rifles. The deputies *****ed about them. They said they were not suitable for their training. Maybe not just not tacticool enough. They used Winchester 94s at one time.

 

I live in CA and have several levers guns in 44magnum. On my list are 30-30 and 45-70. Rather than go from AR's to lever guns, you may also want to consider some of the bolt options coming out now. I believe some use AR style mags, have rails, etc.

I've also purchased an M1A. Just can't get myself into buying a Mini 14.