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rangerhgm

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At the range I've been shooting my G34 with the OEM barrel with Extreme 115gr RN bullets

Accuracy is so so......but then I'm not the most accurate shot.

I'm looking for some help with accuracy.....before someone responds with this.....I know.........practice practice practice

Has anyone found any increase in accuracy using the LWD barrel in their G34?
 
I used a lone wolf compensate barrel on a G22 once and I seemed to get better accuracy at 25 yards, but that was almost certainly just a matter of the extra weight and compensator making the gun move less when I fired (from a rest to check accuracy).

If you get a stock length Lone Wolf barrel, I doubt you'll get better accuracy. About 99.9% of shooters looking for accuracy want to change their sights and their barrel, when the real accuracy issue is your right hand (unless you are left-handed).
 
My advice - Shoot your gun from a rest to test the accuracy of your load. If you don't think you are really good shooting from a rest (there are people who aren't), get someone to do it for you. If it isn't "accurate", go to a different bullet. I don't know of anyone having problems with accuracy with 147 FMJ's loaded to about 130pf.

I don't think it is your barrel. If you are having accuracy problems with the load described before shooting from a rest, it is either your technique or an actual problem with the barrel (unlikely, but possible).

Also, makes sure your expectations of accuracy are realistic for a basically stock (even with a drop-in barrel) G34. I know my Tripp Research/STI 1911 is more accurate than my G34 (with or without a drop-in LWD or KKM barrel).

From one of my earlier posts:

I wanted to blame my (IDPA match) accuracy problems on an OEM barrel with about 30k through it. The "lock-up" with the slide/block was somewhat "loose" by feel. A friend has a KKM barrel with for the same model as mine (G34 - shown at left). The KKM seemed to have a tighter lock-up. We both shot 10 round groups in the following combinations slow-fire at about 18 yards:

1. My 34 with OEM barrel
2. His 34 with my OEM barrel
3. My 34 with his KKM
4. His 34 with KKM

In every case the (loose) OEM barrel produced smaller groups than the (tight) KKM, regardless as to which gun it was in, or who was shooting it.

In the end, convinced that the OEM was more accurate, I needed to find out MY inaccuracy problems during a match. I figured out what I was doing wrong and suddenly my gun got more accurate.

I also have a 9mm LWD conversion for a G23 with a "match" dimension chamber (at least according to LWD) . There doesn't seem to be a difference in accuracy between the OEM and the conversion.

With that being said, KKM makes a good product and the consensus is that they have good customer service. It will allow you to shoot lead bullets "worry free" (if you have concerns about such things with the OEM barrel). I think you will be happy with your purchase.​
 
I shoot a 10 round group at 25 yds standing with my KKM G34. 9 rds into 2.5 inches. The 10th rd went into 4 inches. I probably pulled one shoot. I was tired. You do need to keep in mind. It's just a Glock.
 
I have a LW in my 1st gen G17. I shoot mostly lead or coated lead. I find it more accurate than the OEM bbl. Glocks are meant to go bang. OEM bbls seem good for about 3" @ 25yds with most factory fodder. If it shoots better, count your blessings. A bit worse, maybe.
I always tell people, to let a better shooter shoot your gun/ammo before going off to spend a bunch of $$ that isn't going to fix the problem. It's rarely the gun/ammo fault, but sometimes?
 
While I do not have any 9mm Glocks to compare factory barrels in that cal, I do have 40 and 45's as well as LWD 9 conversion barrels. MOST LWD barrels are more accurate with lead bullets, although 2 of their barrels (one 9 and 1 40 cal) needed fire lapped to shoot acceptable groups. LWD barrels usually cut group size in half or better with jacketed bullets in my experience. All this is with good ammo of course. Maybe try dif. ammo if you haven't already .

I have shot some unbelievable groups with both factory and aftermarket barrels , smallest group size has always been with AM barrels. Most factory Glock barrels will shoot 2" or slightly less @ 25 yds. My Gen 4 22 has shot some amazing groups even @ 50 yds completely factory except trigger work. All this of course is dependent on the shooter . The Glock trigger is THE biggest problem for most and takes some practice to shoot well.
Like I said I don't own a Glock 9mm but it has been MY experience that of the service cals. 9 has always been least accurate with off the shelf guns.
I done some research and most 9's have 1-10 rifling where the LWD barrel has 1-16 .
I believe this has something to do with 9's accuracy as most larger cal, has the more traditional slower 1-16 rifling and also would explain better accuracy with heavier/longer bullets.

No disrespect but bottom line is the most accurate barrel isn't going to make bad habits or trigger control go away but with good discipline will shoot smaller groups.
If you know someone that is on average a good shot with a Glock have them shoot your gun to see how they do with it, that will rule out shooter error or bad barrel/ammo.
 
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While I do not have any 9mm Glocks to compare factory barrels in that cal, I do have 40 and 45's as well as LWD 9 conversion barrels. MOST LWD barrels are more accurate with lead bullets, although 2 of their barrels (one 9 and 1 40 cal) needed fire lapped to shoot acceptable groups. LWD barrels usually cut group size in half or better with jacketed bullets in my experience. All this is with good ammo of course. Maybe try dif. ammo if you haven't already .

I have shot some unbelievable groups with both factory and aftermarket barrels , smallest group size has always been with AM barrels. Most factory Glock barrels will shoot 2" or slightly less @ 25 yds. My Gen 4 22 has shot some amazing groups even @ 50 yds completely factory except trigger work. All this of course is dependent on the shooter . The Glock trigger is THE biggest problem for most and takes some practice to shoot well.
Like I said I don't own a Glock 9mm but it has been MY experience that of the service cals. 9 has always been least accurate with off the shelf guns.
I done some research and most 9's have 1-10 rifling where the LWD barrel has 1-16 .
I believe this has something to do with 9's accuracy as most larger cal, has the more traditional slower 1-16 rifling and also would explain better accuracy with heavier/longer bullets.

No disrespect but bottom line is the most accurate barrel isn't going to make bad habits or trigger control go away but with good discipline will shoot smaller groups.

If you know someone that is on average a good shot with a Glock have them shoot your gun to see how they do with it, that will rule out shooter error or bad barrel/ammo.
None taken.....I'm looking for anything to become more accurate
 
The only aftermarket barrel I have put in my Glocks has been a hard fit Bar-Sto barrel. Yes there was a difference. I have a friend that works at Glock. He made a comment that has proven true with a dozen different guns. Glock OEM barrels prefer hard bullets and heavy for caliber bullets. I have observed excellent results with .356 JHP's in 124/125 and 147's in .355.

YMMV

Try a box of Hornady HAP .356 125's, Zero .356 JHP's or Zero 147 JHP's. Your factory barrel can most likely realize its full potential with these bullets pushed 135 PF or higher.
 
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I had a ton of cast bullets for the .45ACP and the .40 and decided that I needed to get an aftermarket barrel for them as the OEM barrel would lead up after a while. I bought two Lone Wolf stock barrels for a G27 and a G30 and it was a horrible experience. They came with short chambers and no leade. A call to their CS department told me I was reloading my ammo incorrectly and that LWd barrels would function with any FACTORY ammo out there. UH......I didn't buy the darn barrels to shoot factory.....but then I could get them to function about 30-50% of the time.

One option that LW promoted was to send back the brand new barrel and for $30 bucks they would correct the chamber. Enough of us on this and other boards complained and after a while they agreed to do it for free.........for a while. I sent my two barrels in and they came back 104 days later !!!!!!! They would function better but still not get above 75% feeding.

I ordered two KKM barrels for those two and it has been sweet ever since. Function is fine and I would say that the accuracy is a whisper better with the KKM over the OEM barrels. I never had a chance to test the LW barrels as I was always concerned with misfeeds and jams.
 
I have a KKM (40) and two LW (.357 Sig and 9mm). Under the same circumstances, the LW doesn't shoot any better or worse than the KKM.
 
I"m going to buy one for a G41 and was going to get another LW until I read Bluescots experience. So far, I guess I've just lucked out and will not push it. In pricing the KKM, it's only about $20 more when shipping is considered. It will be a KKM - Thanks Bluescot.
 
I"m going to buy one for a G41 and was going to get another LW until I read Bluescots experience. So far, I guess I've just lucked out and will not push it. In pricing the KKM, it's only about $20 more when shipping is considered. It will be a KKM - Thanks Bluescot.
There is a long long thread on here about LW barrels of which I was only one poster. It might be interesting to try and look it up as it went on and on for many pages. Colorado 4Wheel was also a good poster of his experience with them.

I love those KKM barrels and only bought any aftermarket barrel as that G30 and G27 would lead a lot when pushing cast lead reloads. I have two other Glocks in 9mm that shoot lead reloads just fine through their Glock barrels and I find no need to add barrels for them.

I called up KKM and I think I actually got the owner of the company in Nevada and had a great conversation with him and ended up ordering those two barrels. Sadly I heard that he was killed in a motorcycle accidents a while ago.

I would be interested in your feedback when you get and shoot that new KKM barrel.
 
While I do not have any 9mm Glocks to compare factory barrels in that cal, I do have 40 and 45's as well as LWD 9 conversion barrels. MOST LWD barrels are more accurate with lead bullets, although 2 of their barrels (one 9 and 1 40 cal) needed fire lapped to shoot acceptable groups. LWD barrels usually cut group size in half or better with jacketed bullets in my experience. All this is with good ammo of course. Maybe try dif. ammo if you haven't already .

I have shot some unbelievable groups with both factory and aftermarket barrels , smallest group size has always been with AM barrels. Most factory Glock barrels will shoot 2" or slightly less @ 25 yds. My Gen 4 22 has shot some amazing groups even @ 50 yds completely factory except trigger work. All this of course is dependent on the shooter . The Glock trigger is THE biggest problem for most and takes some practice to shoot well.
Like I said I don't own a Glock 9mm but it has been MY experience that of the service cals. 9 has always been least accurate with off the shelf guns.
I done some research and most 9's have 1-10 rifling where the LWD barrel has 1-16 .
I believe this has something to do with 9's accuracy as most larger cal, has the more traditional slower 1-16 rifling and also would explain better accuracy with heavier/longer bullets.

No disrespect but bottom line is the most accurate barrel isn't going to make bad habits or trigger control go away but with good discipline will shoot smaller groups.
If you know someone that is on average a good shot with a Glock have them shoot your gun to see how they do with it, that will rule out shooter error or bad barrel/ammo.
Usually a slower twist, 1 in 16, will shoot lead boolits better than
a faster twist, 1 in 10.
 
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