[SalfromCal]

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[Dave.1]

Sorry to hear that but not surprised.

Nobody in the Gov there seems to realize that a trained person can change a 10 round mag about as fast as an untrained person can pull the trigger.

Dave

 

[e.lectronick]

I was interested in this thread because of the claims that .22lr ammo compatibility was drastically improved by performing these polishing mods. I would like to achieve this goal as well as make the action smoother as a nice secondary effect.

However... I'm a self admitted noob and:

Plenty of times I've seen folks talk about smoothing the action of their guns with a great deal of thought planning and very CAREFUL polishing in just the right places. Too much, and you'll risk taking off too much material and ruin your gun.

Is there any advantage to this manual polishing that shooting a hell of a lot of ammo through your gun will not achieve anyway? Will shooting a great deal naturally smooth and polish every single part in the same way as those you would do by hand?

If I'm nervous about messing it up, would I fare the same by just getting in lots of range time?

Would it be better, the same or worse to do it one way over the other?

Thanks for any insight

Erik

 

[Dave.1]

My two kits have never had problems with the proper ammo, which in my case is RGB.

I understand you not wanting to mess with the kit, because use will in fact polish things too.

I would suggest polishing the breech of the barrel, it will be easier to clean if you do.

Dave

 

[roguedaddy]

Lots of good info here. Thanks. My kit has at least 2500 rounds through it and it's doing well. I need to look at increasing my magazine capacity.

 

[Dukedomone]

I agree. This is a great thread. I nominate SalfromCal to do a YouTube video demonstrating how and what to polish. The plastic anchor idea is freaking genius also. I never knew MacGyver really existed until now......

 

[leadslinger13]

i have had one for my g20 for a year now. Remington GB seem to be the best. I have wanted to extend mag capacity for some time. I noticed on the AA web page that they sell 25 round mags for 17/22/19 and 23 but not for the 21/20.

i read in one of the old threads concerning this. The followers and plugs for the 26 mags should yield more rounds in the full size mags. anyone tried this?

odd the parts section doesn't show plungers or follwers for the 29/30 but they do have springs for the 29/30.

hmmm....just realized that since they are selling mag parts i should just order a couple of my mag parts and try to mod.

i sent them an email inquiring about these parts. hope its good news.


still would be nice to hear if anyone has done this to the 20/21 mags yet.

would i need to get stronger spring?

 

[Chinese Grock]

Tonight will be a Flitzkreig

 

[Angel]

Hi I've been away for a while and I'm the op of the post you link to. If you go to
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1009833

you can read what was done for 13 rnd mags back in 2009. Also There's a few other tricks I learned along the way. Look especially at posts 49 & 54 and work down from there

Advantage arms now sells magazine parts. Anyone modify their mags with new parts to get more capacity? How about cutting down a 25 round mag?
Angel

 

[allegro]

Advantage arms now sells magazine parts. Anyone modify their mags with new parts to get more capacity? How about cutting down a 25 round mag?
Angel

I just wish the stock 10 rounder would hold more....not to mention that HUGE 25 rounder that could hold a hundred or more.

I don't mind loading, but would like to plink off a lot of rounds in between.

Anyone got suggestions?

 

[leadslinger13]

i recently posted to another thread about this. i own a glock 20 with the AA 22lr top end. i purchased the 26 magazine plug and it gave me 13 rounds per mag without any modification. I tested each mag three times and they functioned flawlessly. I only use remington bulk pack gold bullets. I have tried others but the remingtons seem to provide flawless performance. Now i need to order a couple more for my two other mags.

i also tried the 26 follower but the design was far too different. Next i thought if i could modify the lower end of the stock AA follower i could get a couple more rounds. I checked the mag spring with the 26 mag plug and the stock AA spring was at full compression so nothing would be gained by modifiying the follower without experimenting with different springs. I am sure that a couple of rounds could be had with different springs but i am happy with the 13 rounds and the ease/cost of switching out the magazine plugs.

 

[Gunnuts10mm]

i recently posted to another thread about this. i own a glock 20 with the AA 22lr top end. i purchased the 26 magazine plug and it gave me 13 rounds per mag without any modification. I tested each mag three times and they functioned flawlessly. I only use remington bulk pack gold bullets. I have tried others but the remingtons seem to provide flawless performance. Now i need to order a couple more for my two other mags.

i also tried the 26 follower but the design was far too different. Next i thought if i could modify the lower end of the stock AA follower i could get a couple more rounds. I checked the mag spring with the 26 mag plug and the stock AA spring was at full compression so nothing would be gained by modifiying the follower without experimenting with different springs. I am sure that a couple of rounds could be had with different springs but i am happy with the 13 rounds and the ease/cost of switching out the magazine plugs.

Thanks for the heads up leadslinger13!

I ordered some 26 plugs yesterday.

 

[Kona dawg]

Are the remington bullets hollow points? Thats all i can find in the golden bullets?

 

[DrMark]

Are the remington bullets hollow points? Thats all i can find in the golden bullets?

Every bulk pack of Remington Golden Bullets that I've ever bought & used has been hollow points (36 grain).

 

[Kona dawg]

Ok. Thanks. I didnt know if they came in anything else. Thats all my walky world has.

 

[SalfromCal]

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[jgrider]

i also tried the 26 follower but the design was far too different. Next i thought if i could modify the lower end of the stock AA follower i could get a couple more rounds. I checked the mag spring with the 26 mag plug and the stock AA spring was at full compression so nothing would be gained by modifiying the follower without experimenting with different springs. I am sure that a couple of rounds could be had with different springs but i am happy with the 13 rounds and the ease/cost of switching out the magazine plugs.

Back in 09 I had to make my own shorter plungers for 13 rnd. mags. Since I had access to a borrowed 26 mag I got to see what was needed to do to make a 26 follower fit. But back then A.A. believed that we were all subjects of kalifornia and it's ten round rule, so they wouldn't sell you mag parts, just do exchanges, so I gave up on that idea.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1009833&page=2 post 49

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1009833&page=3 post 54

Now that A.A is selling parts I bought a 26 follower and plug. I did my mods to the follower and a 17/22 mag housing ( really easy, all you need is a file and drill bit). It works, most of the time!

I need to take pictures of what I did but my camera is on loan

Here's my thoughts:
1: I said it works, most of the time. There are times that the next round out of the mag does a nose tip up (stove pipe). I think this is because as you add rounds to a mag the rims cause the bullet noses to angle down. So I think what's happening is the bullet tip is hitting the front inside edge of the mag housing, causing he bullet to bounce up. Compare the bullet angle of a 10 rnd. loaded mag. and a 13 rnd. loaded mag

2: Is $5.00 per follower and $4.00 per plug for a total of $9.00 plus shipping worth it for just two extra rounds ? If I can correct the rare bullet tip ups I'll probably buy another four followers, but I'll make my own plugs.

3: Now for some good news. For me if I load just 8 or 9 rnds. of the more reliable Fed bulk ammo in my 13 round mag I have reliable feeding and ejection. That's because of the lesser upward spring pressure with the shorter plugs I made. It doesn't retard the slide travel as much. Now with the shorter 26 plug there's even less spring pressure so I can now load 15 rnds. of Feds with no trouble. I use the Fed red & black boxed bulk stuff in steel plate matches out of 2 1911 conversions and 2 Spikes dedicated uppers without any failures, that's why I call them reliable.

I'm not saying that all those things will work for unworked on A.A.s. I've done a lot mods besides the customary polishing, like working the mags, stiffer extractor spring, beveling the firing safety plunger so it doesn't rub against the mag (see post 51 in my links), swage out the chamber mouth (this is an old trick for peened chamber mouths), lengthen firing pin travel, reshape firing pin tip (another old trick)

 

[repo4sale]

Sunday before Super Bowl shot 550 Round Brick of Remington 22 through G27 Converted to 22. Sticky 22 Remington bullets, coated with oil. 2-3% junk ammo. Cleaned Kit, and went back Monday to shoot 550 Round Brick of Federal 22. Ammo is clean & dry. So I sprayed some WD-40 on the ammo and gun. 1-2% junk or stuck ammo. With the WD40, the Federal ammo was better than the STICKY Remington.

 

[e.lectronick]

Aaaargh! SalFromCal deleted all his posts!!!

I was just about to do those mods with a kit I will be ordering very shortly.

Does anyone have that page saved, or the pics and instructions copied and pasted into a text document or something!?!?!?!?

Bummer

Thanks for any help folks can offer

Erik

 

[Dave.1]

He did that a while back. Got frustrated with the AA Kit.

To do all the stuff he did as far as polishing you'd have to be comfortable with taking the whole thing apart. I did that, but all I think you really need to do is polish the feed ramp, barrel face and extractor cut on the barrel. I also polished the ejector.

He also polished the striker lug (like a .25 trigger job) along with the safety. I don't think that makes any difference as far as improving the function. The plastic on the safety will smooth out quickly enough from contact with the trigger bar extension.

I have an older kit with a little different firing pin and extractor cut on the barrel and two newer kits with a straight extractor cut in the barrel. They were very well smoothed out when I got them.

Dave