So I was wondering there was a post where someone put a punisher back plate on there glock. Majority of Glocktalkers agreed in a self defence situation that might not be the best image and message to send. If you where ever put into a position where you needed to use said gun for self defence. I know there are a few police officers on the forum and just in general everyone is extremely knowledgeable. My question is does that go for just about any back plate for the glocks or are some safe? I was looking at maybe trying to get one with the Resident Evil Umbrella Corporation symbol done. This is my self defence weapon and if its gonna cause trouble or possibly throw a Red flag then I will skip it until i can get something else for self defence
Custom Back Plates do they send bad message
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Haha, thanks for catching that typo, spell checker...*meant aesthetically
If you ever went to court, you better hope there are no Mets fans on the jury!!!![Image]()
Anything with a NY Yankee logo looks beautiful.....
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I disagree with that premise. OTOH being a sports fan is something lots of people can relate to. :wavey:![Image]()
Anything with a NY Yankee logo looks beautiful.....
Even to the jury. Unless you shot a guy wearing Red Sox cap.
Is there anyone on this forum that would convict or hold liable someone that has one of these modifications (based on the legal modification) as you suggest?
What does this comment make you? Not everyone has the same interest. Let the grown ups talk about these things.
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Will it get you convicted, not by itself. I bet a prosecutor would be sure to hold it up at some point so the jury could see it though. Does it matter if you dress nice at your trial or come in looking like a hoodlum? I know how I would dress. I'm also sure that after a reporter hears you had a Punisher logo on your Glock and puts it in his story he will come to you and ask if you would like to explain why it was there, I'm sure he would. And even if he did how good would an answer "It looked cool" be. I just don't see the point of looking for trouble, my carry gun stays concealed. Speaking of which it sure would not help a brandishing charge either.
I would really be interested in the REAL answer to this. Again, no one has any documented situation where a logo on a gun has cause a problem. Yeah, I guess it COULD hurt but no one knows. They could ask why you chose this gun over that one. Why do you need the +2 round magazine? Why did you color in the lettering on your slide (I use to do it but have moved on :embarassed? They could ask "why do you own glock apparel, gun books, post daily on gun forums? May it is because you are a little too into guns and were out to use your gun on the day you shot ____."
I just do not see an attorney drooling over a logo, unless you go for a "I love killing people" logo. Again, if there is something out there that someone could find I would love to know about it.
? They could ask "why do you own glock apparel, gun books, post daily on gun forums? May it is because you are a little too into guns and were out to use your gun on the day you shot ____." I just do not see an attorney drooling over a logo, unless you go for a "I love killing people" logo. Again, if there is something out there that someone could find I would love to know about it.
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I agree. It could. That makes it a stupid idea.
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Where did you get that? I've been looking for 1 for months.
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Ask Massad Ayoob in the self defense GATE forum. He is paid to be an expert witness in self defense shooting trials. It doesn't matter if it has happened or not with cover plates, there have been cases where someone was prosecuted and was given a hard time for using a 10mm (the Harold Fish case in Arizona) against a crazy homeless man who attacked him with a screw driver. The homeless guy had a long rap sheet for violent behavior but Fish went to jail for awhile before the sentence was overturned. A female juror was interviewed after the inital trial and stated that she found him guilty because he used "such a powerful gun".I would really be interested in the REAL answer to this. Again, no one has any documented situation where a logo on a gun has cause a problem. Yeah, I guess it COULD hurt but no one knows. They could ask why you chose this gun over that one. Why do you need the +2 round magazine? Why did you color in the lettering on your slide (I use to do it but have moved on :embarassed
I just do not see an attorney drooling over a logo, unless you go for a "I love killing people" logo. Again, if there is something out there that someone could find I would love to know about it.
:wavey: Count me in.
Well, not based on a technical mod or most decorations. But as a juror I will be listening to every word on record by a defendant that is brought to my attention. Including those he took time, money and effort to inscribe on his gun.
If the gun is decorated by swastika and victims are Jewish it would be foolish to ignore the connection. It could be a seemingly clear cut case of the ownerÂ’s girlfriend protecting herself as she was about to get raped but I would be looking twice as hard at any evidence suggesting she and her b/f lured the victims in and staged the whole thing.
If the gun is spray-painted to look like a toy why would I ignore the fact that the only people such a paint job would give an advantage over are cops and other law-abiding citizen? Sure, it could be a simple decoration but in this case the defendant better be gay who shot the driver of a tractor he was dragged behind.
Swastika and/or glitter are not going to decide the case by themselves but they will corroborate other evidence. Or disprove it. Bottom line they are not inert and if IÂ’m the juror I will be paying very close attention to those.
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:agree: This is the best answer in this thread!
:agree: This is the truest statement in this thread!
This was not really in question here. A swastika used against a Jewish victim (or any targeted group) is a large step beyond using a pistol with a punisher logo. Some people are really into comics, sports teams, etc etc. You really are comparing apples to oranges.
I guess no one should be having their glock chromed or any other after market finish applied? Your point about the man that was convicted for using a 10mm does show that it MAY not help. But then again, it also shows that no matter what you do...or don't, you never know what the jury is going to say.
Uh, do you have any idea how the criminal justice system works? It's called "Probable Cause". It's a very low standard and it consists of something called "Totality of Circumstances". Grand Juries often review shootings, as in almost all shootings. Once they spend three minutes with a shooting and vote to indict, you will spend everything you own, and half of your lower intestines, in the following criminal trial.
There is no defense at a GJ hearing. The prosecutor does a one way trial in front of 30 or so people who don't worry much about indicting anyone since all they are deciding is the low standard of PC. When the prosecutor gets up in front of 30 people not smart enough to get out of jury duty, and explains that the "Punisher" is a homocidal maniac, and you obviously admire him, you won't even be there to refute that.
Look at all the idiots who post stupid stuff on facebook etc and then get jammed up, the first thing the prosecutor and the media do is investigate the suspects FB page. Why do they do that? Totality of circumstances.
Let's say your kid brother borrows your car and leaves a bag of weed in it. You get stopped and the cop sees it and locks you up. You meet with the prosecutor and explain the situation and she uses her discretion not to prosecute. Now let's say you have pics of yourself wearing a Bob Marely T-shirt, and postings on your FB page advocatiing pot use, do you think she's going to move to dismiss the weed in your car?
I e-mailed Lone Wolf the logo, and they were able to create it.
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