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IN all fairness though, I do have to say with regarding the Agrip/Talon discussion that I have a perfectly good sheet of Agrip sitting in my tool box and have yet to install it. Before I render my final opinion I think I will/should at least install the Agrip and use it with my EDC for a while (i've read lots of posts here by people who swear by it ... I"m a sweaty bastard too living in hot/sweltering south florida so I'm a good test subject).

I seem to be carrying my G27 with Talon Grips more than my others these days ... will go ahead and remove the tape and install the Agrip and report back. Worst that can happen is I don't like it and have to spend $10 to get the Talon Grips replaced.
Can't wait to hear your field report. How do you carry your Glock, btw? I use an MTAC for my 23, but with the cooler months approaching I'm looking at getting something OWB for use with a cover garment.
 
Can't wait to hear your field report. How do you carry your Glock, btw?
Other than the times I'm w/o a belt and wear Smart Carry or a Fanny Pack ... I'm an all Appendix guy now and have been for the past 3-years. Sounds like it would be uncomfortable but I've been carrying for 15 years, have all the major leather makers rigs and choose to carry IWB Kydex over my cojones. I holster with care and keep my bugger hook off the bang switch so it's as safe as any other holstered weapon with the trigger covered.

I have 3 ACR's from Raven that allow me to carry my 26/27, 19/23/36 and one for 1911's. I wear the rig at 12:00 canted to the left (with the slide crossing just above the base of my johnson and the muzzle pointing to 1-1:30). I also put my belt buckle one pant-loop off-center to the left (over my left pocket) to cut down on bulk in front (a thick-azz Glock plus a thick-azz belt buckle is, well, really thick-azz), and whatever I'm carrying completely disappears. T-shirts, tank tops all day long w/out printing and I can draw from a sitting position (car or chair) ... it really is very comfortable all day long. My talon grips don't rub my belly-meat too much either!.
 
I have used both. I like the feel and "sureness of grip" (if you want to call it that) when using the Talon. The Agrip feels good as well but it doesn't leave you with the same "sureness of grip". There is one drawback the Talon has that the Agrip doesn't when used on a carry pistol, especially when used in an IWB holster, and that is the texture will wear into clothing, and skin if not using a holster like the Crossbreed. My last vest has a nice big hole where the grip wore through the material.

I'm probably going to switch back to using Talons on all but my carry pistol. I'd love to use it on the carry pistol but I'd rather spend money on guns than replacing shirts and vests.
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
I have used both. I like the feel and "sureness of grip" (if you want to call it that) when using the Talon. The Agrip feels good as well but it doesn't leave you with the same "sureness of grip". There is one drawback the Talon has that the Agrip doesn't when used on a carry pistol, especially when used in an IWB holster, and that is the texture will wear into clothing, and skin if not using a holster like the Crossbreed. My last vest has a nice big hole where the grip wore through the material.

I'm probably going to switch back to using Talons on all but my carry pistol. I'd love to use it on the carry pistol but I'd rather spend money on guns than replacing shirts and vests.
Thanks for the input, skyjumpr. Some of the others here who use the Talons have talked about slightly filing down the side of the grip that is against your body to reduce the rubbing. Am I reading it right that your vest and shirts on the side of the grip opposite your body are also getting worn out?
 
The Talon LOOKS better nad has a bunch of grip.
The A-Grip looks gay but also provides a great grip.

I've tried both, I currently use neither.
I would choose A-Grip, it you are more concerned about functionality and NOT looks.
 
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The Talon LOOKS better nad has a bunch of grip.
The A-Grip looks gay but also provides a great grip.

I've tried both, I currently use neither.
I would choose A-Grip, it you are more concerned about functionality and NOT looks.
Functionality is always my top concern. If I cared about looks, I wouldn't own a Glock. :whistling:
 
Thanks for the input, skyjumpr. Some of the others here who use the Talons have talked about slightly filing down the side of the grip that is against your body to reduce the rubbing. Am I reading it right that your vest and shirts on the side of the grip opposite your body are also getting worn out?
That is correct.
 
You probably won't want direct skin to grip contact with Talon Grips. It would be like rubbing 80 grit sand paper against your skin all day.
i have talons on my 23 and 27 and wear them against my skin with no problems. i sanded the sides a bit with 100 grit leaving the front and back alone, this works great.
 
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i have talons on my 23 and 27 and wear them against my skin with no problems. i sanded the sides a bit with 100 grit leaving the front and back alone, this works great.
Have you noticed any excess wear on your cover garments like skyjumpr has experienced?
 
Yeah, I figured as much. As the weather cools down here in SoFla, wearing a t-shirt with cover garment will become tolerable. This is the main reason I'm leaning toward the AGrip. When it gets hot again, I won't want to wear two shirts.
A.Grip all the way! Since S. FL is so barn humid and we're always sweating I Tried both. A.Grip is soft to the touch, works like a charm, feels like you have glued your hand to it while shooting and the wetter it gets the better it works! When It starts to look like crap after 2 years take a nylon brush & brush it it will suddenly become brand new! The only issue that I've had in 3 years is the top part of the grip (near the trigger and slide) had peeled back a hair. I trimmed it with some medical scissors & brand new!

I expect it to last me maybe seven years which by the manufacturer is great ( they give it 2) The key is to clean the crap out of the frame & clean it again with alcohol before installing & stretch the shi* out of it when you install it!

Best Product ever, Ordering one for my new 23 now too-
 
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A.Grip all the way! Since S. FL is so barn humid and we're always sweating I Tried both. A.Grip is soft to the touch, works like a charm, feels like you have glued your hand to it while shooting and the wetter it gets the better it works! When It starts to look like crap after 2 years take a nylon brush & brush it it will suddenly become brand new! The only issue that I've had in 3 years is the top part of the grip (near the trigger and slide) had peeled back a hair. I trimmed it with some medical scissors & brand new!

I expect it to last me maybe seven years which by the manufacturer is great ( they give it 2) The key is to clean the crap out of the frame & clean it again with alcohol before installing & stretch the shi* out of it when you install it!

Best Product ever, Ordering one for my new 23 now too-

Thanks for the input! :wavey: The more I think about it, the more I lean toward the AGrip. The Talons sound great for a house/range gun, but not so much for SoFla carry...
 
Have you noticed any excess wear on your cover garments like skyjumpr has experienced?
no, i smoothed the sides down enough so i don't get that. i have tried different grits to sand with and 100 grit worked best. one thing to concider is talon for a while used a different material that was more like sand paper. i didn't like that stuff but they replaced them and this grip material is much better.
 
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no, i smoothed the sides down enough so i don't get that. i have tried different grits to sand with and 100 grit worked best. one thing to concider is talon for a while used a different material that was more like sand paper. i didn't like that stuff but they replaced them and this grip material is much better.
Right on. Did you notice any negative effect on the grips after you sanded both sides? I don't know if I want to have to sand the side that my palm is against. Seems like it's somewhat defeating the purpose of the grip. :dunno:
 
Right on. Did you notice any negative effect on the grips after you sanded both sides? I don't know if I want to have to sand the side that my palm is against. Seems like it's somewhat defeating the purpose of the grip. :dunno:
the sides have a good texture for gripping but the front and rear part of the grip is the most important to me. basically, i just sand the sides lightly until the spikes are taken down [i checked it out under magnification] and the grip is not so grabby or clingy. if you find it still to ruff lightly sand some more. once you get it right i don't see how you could get a better grip. its worth it.
 
A.Grip all the way! Since S. FL is so barn humid and we're always sweating I Tried both. A.Grip is soft to the touch, works like a charm, feels like you have glued your hand to it while shooting and the wetter it gets the better it works! When It starts to look like crap after 2 years take a nylon brush & brush it it will suddenly become brand new! The only issue that I've had in 3 years is the top part of the grip (near the trigger and slide) had peeled back a hair. I trimmed it with some medical scissors & brand new!

I expect it to last me maybe seven years which by the manufacturer is great ( they give it 2) The key is to clean the crap out of the frame & clean it again with alcohol before installing & stretch the shi* out of it when you install it!

Best Product ever, Ordering one for my new 23 now too-
2-3 years if you are super rough on it and use the hell out of it. I've got AGrip on guns and other tools now for over 27 years and still going strong. I'm really surprised how long it lasts on the tools i use for working on my vehicles. And my hands don't get as dirty or greasy at all. The way AGrip works it doesn't transfer the grease around from tool to tool so easily as a tool not wrapped.

One of the little tricks with using AGrip is to not stretch it any more than you need to to get it to go where you want it to. That way when you need to stretch it; the "stretch" is still there in the AGrip material so it can be stretched... because it will only stretch so much. Also; you don't want to stick it down with a bunch of tension pulling back on the adhesive because that will cause it to tend to pull away from where you put it. So, if you need to stretch it; "do the stretching" then "let the tension out"... and then stick it down where you want it... that way it won't pull back and shift.

The HUGE advantage with AGrip is that you can wrap it around all sorts of odd shapes and you can get it to conform to whatever the shape is without having wrinkles, or whatever... so... you get complete coverage and more traction... and you don't have to cut little "relief slots" or whatever to get it to conform to whatever shape.

If it peels up at all... catch it *early* and you can "wipe" the adhesive with your clean finger... *hard* and get the adhesive to "roll over" the dust into the adhesive, surrounding it, and also by doing so "roll up fresh adhesive" in the "mix" and then stick it back down and rub HARD and get it to stick again for the duration.

One thing i noticed a lot of people do is they don't put the AGrip all the way to the top of the frame on the Glocks. AGrip is intended to go ALL the way to the top edge of the frame. What this does is it prevents it from getting peeled up... because if all the way up to the top the slide protects the edges from getting caught on anything and peeled up.

The real "key" to getting AGrip on right easily is "where you start it". The closer you follow the instructions; the easier it will go on and fit where it is supposed to... so... start just a little higher than you think... and you won't have to do much stretching at all... it will "smooth" right on super easy.

Oh... and btw... AGrip for the Glock 43x and 48 is coming soon... pattern is already made... tooling comes next. And.... there's already an AGrip model to fit the G47... the "GM" model.

Thanks, everybody!
 
Wow, 9 year old thread resurrected.

All you guys sanding down your Talons, are you talking about the sandpaper or the rubberized ones? I assume the sandpaper type.
 
Granulated. It’s a little tricky to get it right. I’ve had dozens of talons and although I have some rubber one I prefer the granulated. I use 100 grit sandpaper and give them a pretty good sanding before I install them, but done right I get an outstanding grip that doesn’t grab my clothes or rub me raw. It took me a while before I got them right. The way they come new is far too aggressive and if they ever toned the grit down they would sell more.
 
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