[DarwinOSX]

People either forget or do not know that the role of Army SF is to train and lead indigenous forces. A handful of SF are using Glock 19's because that is we gave the Iraqi police nd other units. Half of them were promptly sold off to people who would use them to shoot at us.
As to Sig their QC and parts quality is nothing like it used to be. The guy who used to run Kimber now runs Sig. Besides dramatically increasing the number of firearms they sell he also outsourced parts manufacturing to the cheapest bidder and I do mean cheap. He also decreased quality control and customer service. The intent is to sell more firearms and make more of a profit from each unit sold. A lot of long time Sig employees have left the company because of this. A lot of long time Sig customers are disgusted with the state of things and won't buy any more Sigs. They are no longer worth their premium price over Glocks' and other pistols in the $500 price range. If you shoot 1,000 rds a year you might not notice a difference. If you shoot often you will.

 

[farrellsm77]

My little brother is going to be deployed to Iraq here in a couple of months(he is Army) and evidently, he may get the chance to qualify/carry a Glock 19 or 17.
That surprised me a bit, since I assumed the standard issue weapon for the USA is the Beretta?
???

That is a little shocking!

 

[tango44]

More pics please!
I hope Admins do not close this great thread.

 

[hogarth]

While what the above poster said about training Iraqis and carrying the same sidearms (Glocks), that does not necessarily make sense. After all, the Iraqis we train use AKs, but I don't see a lot of US personnel with AKs. It may be true some of the time, but it doesn't hold true in the following cases, which show SF training in GERMANY:

These pics all represent the exception, mind you, as you see a lot more Berettas in pics, but clearly Glocks are starting to show up more and more in the hands of US troops. Also, on another note, Pete Blaber was definitely not in A-stan to train the locals!

 

[mustang6112]

Special forces comprise a small percentage of the overall military and due to their unique mission sets and requirements are often fitted with "specialized" equipment, in that it is not the standard issue that other soldiers, sailors Marines and airmen are issued. The standard issue service pistol is still the Beretta M9.

 

[Entreri]

"specialized" equipment, in that it is not the standard issue

Well if Glocks are "specialized equipment", that kinda tells you something in regards to carrying the Beretta instead.

If I was to go into combat tomorrow, I would be carrying a Glock as my sidearm without an absolute doubt, and leaving the Beretta and Sig at home.

 

[Foxtrotx1]

"ok so redbull is good, but me, i prefer this here monster. oh yeah and glocks rock"

What you didn't hear from that picture.

 

[kbrdann]

I work for one of those companies and yes my Glock 17 works perfect over here in the sandbox....

 

[tango44]

Keep em coming great pics!

 

[vmann]

You choose well, here are some pics....

that a boy, big red 1 with a glock....

 

[I_Hate_George_Lucas]

The Iraqis were given GLOCK 19s and M16s. US Forces tha work with Iraqi Forces use the GLOCKs for that reason. As for Special Forces.... they're special.

 

[Javelin]

You choose well, here are some pics....

I remember handing out a bunch of G17's to ICDC & IP and many military folks also got their hands on them while in country. That looks like Power Line Road in the city of Balad Iraq... judging from the IBA I would guess circa 2004-2005.

:wavey:

 

[9mm +p+]

I'd say SIG and HK are both Phenomenal pistols.

I'd say both are way overblown, both are living off of their names kind of like Colt.

 

[Sheepdog Scout]

Keep em coming great pics!

Raising a dead thread from two years ago huh?:wow:

 

[sns3guppy]

If I was to go into combat tomorrow, I would be carrying a Glock as my sidearm without an absolute doubt, and leaving the Beretta and Sig at home.

"Without an absolute doubt," you'd be carrying what you'd be issued, period.

I had a G19 and a P226.

 

[IV Troop]

I work for one of those companies and yes my Glock 17 works perfect over here in the sandbox....

Based on your name "KBRDAN" I wouldthink you work for KBR.

I have never seen or even hear of a single KBR employee ever being issued a weapon.

I have had a bunch of KBR guys ask to hold mine and my coworker's weapons so they could take some "hero" shots to send home though.

That is as close to being armed as a KBR worker ever got in the years I have worked in the Middle East.

 

[Bren]

I've spoke with one Navy and a couple of Army guys that have had or heard of a few problems with their Sigs and Berettas malfunctioning.
I'm glad I decided not to buy the commemorative Sig they were offering a while back. When I was home on vacation, I picked up a new G26 under the military discount program instead.

I don't like the Beretta trigger AT ALL, but the big reliability issue for the military has been the crap magazines from contractors who cut every penny off their cost by using springs that won't push up 10-15 rounds of 9mm.

I have heard from others who did a lot of training with them for the Afghan presidential security force, that the Berettas are very prone the parts breaking, but haven't seen much of that with Army guns. The presidental security guys had several brands and also said the Glock was the best - I noticed that the ehad contractor was wearing a Glock while asking our armorer to take the aprts from his broken Berettas and try to make one gun that worked and throw the rest away.

 

[Bren]

I remember handing out a bunch of G17's to ICDC & IP and many military folks also got their hands on them while in country. That looks like Power Line Road in the city of Balad Iraq... judging from the IBA I would guess circa 2004-2005.

:wavey:

From the 1st ID patch and the Glock, I'd guess that guy was on a MiTT, training some of the Iraqis who were issued Glocks. That would be the best explanation for why he has one. All I ever got issued by the Afghans was their crappy boots.

 

[MajorD]

glocks are NOT an item of U.S. approved standard or limited issue to U.S. forces outside of special operations. The few you do see in the hands of U.S. troops are the result, as another poster indicated, of U.S. trainers carrying the same handgun as the troops or police they mentor. This is often due to the fact not all U.S. troops are issued handguns, and these are generally loaners from the agency they mentor. I have done combat tours in both countries so this is not heresay but firsthand knowledge

 

[smitty704]

Nice pics guys. Thanks for posting!