The Hornady 155 XTP performs well in Lucky Gunner testing.
10mm Auto Self-Defense Ammo Ballistic Gel Tests - LuckyGunner.com Labs

I shot a deer with the 155 XTP and it made holes bigger than a quarter.

 

The Hornady 155 XTP performs well in Lucky Gunner testing.
10mm Auto Self-Defense Ammo Ballistic Gel Tests - LuckyGunner.com Labs

I shot a deer with the 155 XTP and it made holes bigger than a quarter.
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Greetings and many thanks for the LuckyGunner link. I knew that they had data on all the other handgun calibers but somehow i must have missed the 10mm data. Your choice of the Hornady 155 Gr XTP is exactly what i was looking for. A bullet that did not over-penetrate, had very good expansion, and one of the highest velocity of the bunch. So, that will be my choice as well. Thank you for taking time to respond. Have agreat and safe day, Sir.

 

If by BJHP, you mean the Remington bullet marketed as the Golden Saber; I’d take the XTP.
The GS is notorious for jacket separation and harder to obtain consistently as a component bullet. If you’re hand loading.

You can easily hand load an XTP to almost 1500 FPS In 10mm, which is well beyond its performance envelope. So you can get some amazing performance if you load to 1400 FPS.

As factory ammo I’d still take the XTP for the same reasons stated above.

 

If by BJHP, you mean the Remington bullet marketed as the Golden Saber; I’d take the XTP.
The GS is notorious for jacket separation and harder to obtain consistently as a component bullet. If you’re hand loading.

You can easily hand load an XTP to almost 1500 FPS In 10mm, which is well beyond its performance envelope. So you can get some amazing performance if you’re load to 1400 FPS.

As factory ammo I’d still take the XTP for the same reasons stated above.

Hello Sir and thank you for responding. Based on your info and also on what Sir CDW4ME sent me, it will definitely be the XTP. For me, hand loading is a very long way before i could ever be that knowledgeable to attempt something like that. Although i am old as the hills, i am somewhat a newbie to all the new technologies in handguns and ammo. It's been well over 50 years since i shot a weapon and that was in the Army in the late 1960s. Even then, i shot the M16, M1911, and the M79 and basically knew how to clean, load, and fire and that was it.
Being that you are expert, you will probably get a chuckle out of this about how dumb i am about ammo. Ran across an article about barrel calibers and cartridge calibers and how and why they are not necessarily the same. I could not figure out how in the world one can fire a bullet that is larger in diameter than the barrel's land-to-land diameter. It finally became more clear when i read how a bullet is made and only then it made sense. So, i am learning and at times ask dumb questions. Lucky for me, there are many shooting experts on this Forum that are kind enough to put up with my trivial questions and help me out with answers. Thanks and have a great and safe day, Sir.

 

The Hornady 155 XTP performs well in Lucky Gunner testing.
10mm Auto Self-Defense Ammo Ballistic Gel Tests - LuckyGunner.com Labs

I shot a deer with the 155 XTP and it made holes bigger than a quarter.
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Things are getting bad if all you could scrape up was a quarter instead of the GT-mandated dollar bill.

Good post.

 

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These two may interest you? Looks like they’re out of stock on the 165gr. Gold Dots, maybe get on their email list for when they get some in stock. The TAC-XP’s are a little more pricey, the Gold Dots are very reasonable. I’m sure they’re both excellent!

I’ve stocked up on UW 9mm and .40 S&W, probably shot 50 or 60 rounds of each caliber, very good ammo!

 

The XTP is a specific bullet. Unless I'm mistaken, bjhp just stands for bonded jacketed hollow point, which applies to a bunch of hollow points, but doesn't identify a specific one.

 

BJHP is how Remington describes its Golden Saber bullet. BJHP stands for Brass Jacketed Hollowpoint.

 

I prefer the BJHP over the XTP.

 

The very reason for bonded bullets is to eliminate the possibility of jacket separation. Bonded bullets are just what they say they are: lead with a copper coating bonded to it (like a chroming process), instead of an encapsulating copper jacket. Jacket separation is common on really high velocity ammo (like the load you propose), mostly due to the intense spinning of the projectile. I would suggest the 165 grain Speer bonded Gold Dot bullet for your application if you can find some. Even this larger bullet is really small (and short) for a 10mm case. I would worry about over-stabilization and the possibility of tumbling. However, it might work in a G29 as the velocity and yaw will be less with the shorter barrel.

 

My vote is for the 155gr XTP moving around 1,400fps.

That's what I load mine at and it's a heck of a round. 695 foot pounds of energy and still very controllable. Woof!

I have not shot any game with it but I have done some homemade ballistics tests in water and ice blocks. Hits like a Mack truck, pancakes really good, but holds together with no jacket separation.

 

Which one is more accurate in your particular firearm? Shoot both, pick the one that is the answer to the question.

 

I've shot a good amount of both in the 10mm. I'd go with the XTP over the Golden Sabre in 10mm.

 

XTP - Extreme Terminal Performance - They named it correctly!

 

The Hornady 155 XTP performs well in Lucky Gunner testing.
10mm Auto Self-Defense Ammo Ballistic Gel Tests - LuckyGunner.com Labs

I shot a deer with the 155 XTP and it made holes bigger than a quarter.
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Very nice, could you please give more info, range, wt, in and out both sides?

 

Forgot to add, I like the XTPs too, 155 and 180,
also in other calibers

 

Very nice, could you please give more info, range, wt, in and out both sides?

I was a bowhunter, set up in ground blind as I would bowhunting.
I handloaded the 155 XTP for a muzzle velocity of 1,400 fps from a 5'' barrel.
Deer was 18 yards away, broadside, impact velocity approximately the same as factory 155 XTP ammo; which was not a coincidence, as it should be reflective of factory 155 XTP from a Glock 20.
Bullet not recovered.
Unlike the doctors who anecdotally "can't tell a difference" I documented.
Here is another pic.
I disdain the cliché "all handguns suck at stopping people" as if a 32 or 380 FMJ make holes in tissue like this:

 

I have seen Remington Golden Saber bullets consistently lose their jackets in informal testing. I have harvested quite a few animals with XTP bullets, and they opened up and consistently kept their jackets.

 

Losing a jacket isnt the end of the world. In a 230gr 45, lead core weighs 200gr. So a 30gr jacket veering off just adds another wound track. At higher impact vel of 9mm, they usually fold back well & lock the core in. Of course you can always go bonded. The xtp is a very good bullet but not known for expansion.

 

For the reloaders, most of the loads in this 10mm test can be achieved
in a four inch 40 S&W, with a six inch, the 40 can smoke all of them.

10mm Auto Self-Defense Ammo Ballistic Gel Tests - LuckyGunner.com Labs

Reloading Data Center | Hodgdon (hodgdonreloading.com)

The 180gr XTP goes around 1135 to 1180 in my different 4'' barrels,
some of the 4.5'' are around 1200 FPS.

Longshot powder.

 

There's little surprise that Longshot will achieve that type of performance. Hodgdon "book" load shows 1159 fps.

 

Between the two you ask about in OP, XTP hands down! Great penetration.....
Heavy for caliber. I use XTP's and PDX1's in all my pistol SD guns. (and Gold Dots at times)

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Doesn't Remington make a bonded Golden Saber? They did at one time.

 

I think that is all they offer right now.

 

Doesn't Remington make a bonded Golden Saber? They did at one time.

Yes they do.

I shoot the regular (not bonded) RGSaber in 9mm & .40. Not worried about jacket separation if it does occasionally happen.