Ran across some Xtreme 165gr 9mm bullets at work the other day. At first I thought it was a misprint, that they'd mixed up the 165gr 40cal bullets with the 9mm label but nope, they're really is a 165gr 9mm bullet. My question is WHY? Loading a 147gr bullet effectively nuters the 9mm down to 38spl ballistics so why would you want something even heavier that's going to give even less velocity?
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TN.Frank
At 9mm minor, the recoil impulse is quite soft, subsonic, very fast shooting. I know quite a few idpa master & expert guys running 160-165 @ 800fps.
1) I absolutely disagree with your assessment of the 147gr's terminal effectiveness, but that is a different topic.
2) Probably so 9mm shooters, especially subgun shooters, can use less powder for the same recoil impulse. This would give a quieter report without sacrificing functional reliability. If they are meant for defenseive uses, then it sounds almost exclusively like a suppressed subgun bullet (because a 147 pushed to modern defense load pressures will be supersonic out of most 16" barrels), though at that point Id run a .357 158gr XTP before some unknown like this 165.
2) Probably so 9mm shooters, especially subgun shooters, can use less powder for the same recoil impulse. This would give a quieter report without sacrificing functional reliability. If they are meant for defenseive uses, then it sounds almost exclusively like a suppressed subgun bullet (because a 147 pushed to modern defense load pressures will be supersonic out of most 16" barrels), though at that point Id run a .357 158gr XTP before some unknown like this 165.
A friend of mine loads 158gr .357 bullets in his 9mm. Watching him, it's like shooting a pellet gun in IDPA. His STI stays pretty flat and the splits were fast. I'm not wild about .357 bullets in a 9, but if the Xtreme 165's are made for a 9, I might have to take a harder look at those.
Don't let the 0357" dia scare you, particularly in a glock, especially lead or soft plated. Most glock Oem bbl shooters using lead or coated lead are shooting 0.357" or even 0.358".
I guess I should've been more precise in my response. He loads 158gr jacketed hp's in his 9mm. I was going to get some of those and try them, but if Xtreme makes a heavier bullet, I only have to drive it to 788fps to make 130pf. Might have to play around with the springs in my STI a bit, but I'll see if I can work up a pellet gun load, too!
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