What will happen to all the thermal scopes, night vision and solar generators in an EMP?
Even the high-tech flashlights?
EMP proof or not?
Even the high-tech flashlights?
EMP proof or not?
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Military Night Vision and Thermals should do fine, as well as other smaller items. If not plugged in/powered on, most small electronics should be fine. Larger items or items in use could be effected.
I want to say modern military radios are shielded from EMP, but not the relays/more powerful base stations.
I want to say modern military radios are shielded from EMP, but not the relays/more powerful base stations.
I used to work for a manufacturer of power grid hardware. I'll never forget watching a hardcore test (double power or more of what would actually happen) from an EMP on the hardware the company manufactured. "Stuff" is more EMP proof than you realize. Modern manufacturing and components are way more robust than they used to be.
I'm not saying it won't affect things. However, I think a lot of folks worry about what will affect EMP's is based off really old information.
I'm not saying it won't affect things. However, I think a lot of folks worry about what will affect EMP's is based off really old information.
They wake up, transform into robots and start offing people.
I've staged multiple obsolete Sony devices around congress incase of this. Stubborn old DVD player is going to be one btch of a Decepticon.
I've staged multiple obsolete Sony devices around congress incase of this. Stubborn old DVD player is going to be one btch of a Decepticon.
I have seen reports saying modern cell phones handle nuclear EMP ( doesn't mention the details of what Volts per meter strength were used). So it might be those items you mentioned would fair. The long transmission lines of the power grid are still susceptible. Anything that has lengths of wire attached are the most susceptible, despite the argument of small verses larger, older transistors and chips.
SEMPRE FINDS SMARTPHONES SURVIVE A NUCLEAR EMP
"Knowing that smartphones like the iPhone and Galaxy will survive an EMP opens a lot of possibilities for our military to plan around. Of course, it doesn't matter unless we have the telecommunications infrastructure that survives as well," added General Timothy Ray (USAF ret). General Ray is a retired four-star general who last served as Commander of Global Strike Command, where he was in charge of all nuclear forces. He recently joined SEMPRE as a Strategic Advisor.
This discovery was made in Colorado Springs by Jaxon Engineering, a specialist in EMP shielding for the U.S. Department of Defense and other security-focused customers. The tests were being made on the latest military-grade data centers manufactured by SEMPRE. The Apple iPhone 12 was tested using iOS 14.7.1, while the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G had the Android 11 operating system."
SEMPRE FINDS SMARTPHONES SURVIVE A NUCLEAR EMP
"Knowing that smartphones like the iPhone and Galaxy will survive an EMP opens a lot of possibilities for our military to plan around. Of course, it doesn't matter unless we have the telecommunications infrastructure that survives as well," added General Timothy Ray (USAF ret). General Ray is a retired four-star general who last served as Commander of Global Strike Command, where he was in charge of all nuclear forces. He recently joined SEMPRE as a Strategic Advisor.
This discovery was made in Colorado Springs by Jaxon Engineering, a specialist in EMP shielding for the U.S. Department of Defense and other security-focused customers. The tests were being made on the latest military-grade data centers manufactured by SEMPRE. The Apple iPhone 12 was tested using iOS 14.7.1, while the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G had the Android 11 operating system."
Also - with regard to my post above. I wanted to make clear the information was for a nuclear EMP. A major solar produced EMP would be far harsher on smaller electronics than a nuclear EMP. Solar ones last a lot longer....
I am more worried about a solar produced EMP than a nuclear one. As crazy as North Korea seems to be, they are still human and self preservation has a chance on winning out when the finger is over the launch button. The sun don't give a damn.
I am more worried about a solar produced EMP than a nuclear one. As crazy as North Korea seems to be, they are still human and self preservation has a chance on winning out when the finger is over the launch button. The sun don't give a damn.
Everything matters. I suspect military grade equipment in operation a foot from a massive burst would likely fail. I had it explained it’s like everything. Heat, cold, radiation…. The closer you are, the stronger it is. The more it effects the object.
IF I had $$$$ radios, night vision, other stuff. I would build a faraday cage to store stuff when not in use. For now I hope metal roof, wall shed. (In no way tight enough to be considered a cage) might be enough.
IF I had $$$$ radios, night vision, other stuff. I would build a faraday cage to store stuff when not in use. For now I hope metal roof, wall shed. (In no way tight enough to be considered a cage) might be enough.
All the LARPers will just have to pretend they have NODs at the local range... while they run around playing operator.
What happens? they all die. That’s what happens.
I think people lose sight of the fact that they will spend thousands on electronics and Faraday cages and all the other happy related stuff but don’t have two bags of rice to bang together ???
Do you know what’s gonna happen to all your food with an EMP ? nothing!
Yes, you can go into that You lost your refrigerator storing food due at EMP. I understand that I’m talking about bulk dry food or canned food, EMP or not your rice will be OK.
I think people lose sight of the fact that they will spend thousands on electronics and Faraday cages and all the other happy related stuff but don’t have two bags of rice to bang together ???
Do you know what’s gonna happen to all your food with an EMP ? nothing!
Yes, you can go into that You lost your refrigerator storing food due at EMP. I understand that I’m talking about bulk dry food or canned food, EMP or not your rice will be OK.
I will say this again; If there is an EMP close enough that you need to worry about these things, you have bigger problems than your flashlight/radio working.
Someone said it best above - a lot of the EMP fear is based off 1950's EMP issues. And as for the grid, people always seem to leave out the part where as soon as it goes down, people are working to get it back up as soon as extensively as possible.
But, if you are going to go down that Rabbit Hole, please make sure you have everything else squared away first: Water, Food, Meds, Hygiene, Security, Shelter. All of which should be fine when the EMP hits.
As for the weapons, I follow one simple rule: Iron sites on everything, with all glass/electronics quick release.
Someone said it best above - a lot of the EMP fear is based off 1950's EMP issues. And as for the grid, people always seem to leave out the part where as soon as it goes down, people are working to get it back up as soon as extensively as possible.
But, if you are going to go down that Rabbit Hole, please make sure you have everything else squared away first: Water, Food, Meds, Hygiene, Security, Shelter. All of which should be fine when the EMP hits.
As for the weapons, I follow one simple rule: Iron sites on everything, with all glass/electronics quick release.
I am not an expert in electronics, emp and the rest. However, I can think.
Night vision. On line, there is a 1910 translation of a Japanese military manual on night fighting. It was translated by a US Army Captain. The Japanese used the manual with success until the middle 1930s against the Soviets . . and the Soviets then adopted the lessons. This is before sophisticated electronic gear.
Night vision. If you have a forward mounted low power rifle scope, you don't need fancy lights or beams to be able to take accurate shots at 200 yards with the only illumination being from a clouded night sky.
Took a night tracking class from a guy who was a Tom Brown instructor. He thought he would do a real dooze at midnight. We were up at 10,000 feet on a mountainside. The class was blindfolded. You were supposed to go through the brush to a guy randomly beating on a tom tom. Monitors watched so no one would be hurt. The first three in . . . zip . . zip.. The instructor went into shock. The first three zipped right in. The fourth guy was over 1/2 hour later. The first three had been trained in tracking blindfolded at night.
I will never have the knowledge of Cowboy1964 on what EMP does. However, I learned how and why accurate shots could be taken on target with AR at 100 yards with the target briefly illuminated and then you shoot with the lights out.
Night vision. On line, there is a 1910 translation of a Japanese military manual on night fighting. It was translated by a US Army Captain. The Japanese used the manual with success until the middle 1930s against the Soviets . . and the Soviets then adopted the lessons. This is before sophisticated electronic gear.
Night vision. If you have a forward mounted low power rifle scope, you don't need fancy lights or beams to be able to take accurate shots at 200 yards with the only illumination being from a clouded night sky.
Took a night tracking class from a guy who was a Tom Brown instructor. He thought he would do a real dooze at midnight. We were up at 10,000 feet on a mountainside. The class was blindfolded. You were supposed to go through the brush to a guy randomly beating on a tom tom. Monitors watched so no one would be hurt. The first three in . . . zip . . zip.. The instructor went into shock. The first three zipped right in. The fourth guy was over 1/2 hour later. The first three had been trained in tracking blindfolded at night.
I will never have the knowledge of Cowboy1964 on what EMP does. However, I learned how and why accurate shots could be taken on target with AR at 100 yards with the target briefly illuminated and then you shoot with the lights out.
I don't know for sure, but I'd think a metal safe -- assuming that's where the weapons/NV/scopes are stored -- would be a decent barrier for an EMP. That said, the previous two posts pretty much cover it.
Off topic: night tracking...assuming one isn't broadcasting their own position, cueing in on sounds can be tough in a reflective environment. What's to one side can sound like it's in the opposite direction. Also, having the right protective gear on your lower extremities is a big deal. If you're in the southeastern US in the summer, rattlers, copperheads & moccasins can be an issue. If you're in a field in the south and you suddenly stop to listen -- and your foot is in a fire ant hill -- well, that could suck.
Food for thought on what one might also include in a B.O.B. >>> blousing bands.
Off topic: night tracking...assuming one isn't broadcasting their own position, cueing in on sounds can be tough in a reflective environment. What's to one side can sound like it's in the opposite direction. Also, having the right protective gear on your lower extremities is a big deal. If you're in the southeastern US in the summer, rattlers, copperheads & moccasins can be an issue. If you're in a field in the south and you suddenly stop to listen -- and your foot is in a fire ant hill -- well, that could suck.
Food for thought on what one might also include in a B.O.B. >>> blousing bands.
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