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Walther PP Sport 22 LR Target Pistol

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8.2K views 31 replies 14 participants last post by  vgtovey1  
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I got this beautiful 1967 Walther PP Sport a couple of years ago on GunsAmerica. It appeared to be unfired and came with a padded/felt-lined original case and instruction manual (in German). The extra magazine was still in it's original wrapping. This variant has an adjustable rear sight, full barrel weight/shroud and 6" barrel. There are variants with fixed rear sights and variable barrel lengths with simpler front sight assemblies.

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There is a thumb magazine release. It is SAO but for some reason the safety is also a de-cocker, which I find unusual. There is no slide release lever, so you need to remove the magazine or replace it with a full magazine and then rack the slide to close. The rear sight is fully adjustable. The trigger breaks cleanly at 3 1/2 lbs. It's very crisp with minimal over travel. It lives up to it's intended purpose as a bullseye pistol, with excellent accuracy with CCI Std velocity ammo.

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Magazines hold 10 rounds of 22 LR. I haven't found ammo that wouldn't run. The magazine bodies are standard PP 22 LR mags but the base pads are unique for the PP Sport. I've only tried vintage PP mags, which I bought on eBay and fitted them with base pads from Earl's Repair Service (not cheap).

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It is direct blowback with a fixed barrel. The barrel weight/shroud is attached by a screw on the bottom, which fits into a notch on the barrel so that you don't lose zero from disassembly. There is also a barrel nut, which I think is more important in the variants with a simple front sight assembly without the full barrel weight/shroud, as it doesn't seem to add much to the stability of the attachement.

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I found a 1/2 x 28 thread adapter meant for the barrel threads that can easily be screwed on, after removing the finger tight barrel nut. I had to order the adapter from Europe but it wasn't hard to find and import.

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With a SilencerCo Sparrow attached, it looks a little long but it's not as front end heavy as it looks. I find it a pleasure to shoot and it's the quietest suppressed 22 I've ever heard.

There are typically a few of these for sale on GunBroker at any one time, although the variant like mine with adjustable sights and full barrel weight/shroud are harder to come by.

Thanks for reading.
 
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I remember when those were shown in Gun Digest along with other guns that would be exotics even now. BAC could really expand his horizons by getting into high end .22s.

The most exotic thing I ever had was a Walther Olympia; unfortunately lacking the balance weights that fit the dovetail under the great long barrel. I wanted an extra magazine for it and found that a PP .22 magazine would fit if the edges of the floor plate were narrowed to fit up in the extension grips. My neighbor the gunsmith carved a piece of walnut off a scrap stock to make an extension matching the factory mag.

The most exotic thing I have SEEN was the Walther PP that was used in the development of the Olympia. Looted from the Walther factory collection by an Occupation GI, capture papers included, it looked like a regular PP except that it had the frame safety of the Olympia and its light trigger.
 
#9 ·
I remember when those were shown in Gun Digest along with other guns that would be exotics even now. BAC could really expand his horizons by getting into high end .22s.

The most exotic thing I ever had was a Walther Olympia; unfortunately lacking the balance weights that fit the dovetail under the great long barrel. I wanted an extra magazine for it and found that a PP .22 magazine would fit if the edges of the floor plate were narrowed to fit up in the extension grips. My neighbor the gunsmith carved a piece of walnut off a scrap stock to make an extension matching the factory mag.

The most exotic thing I have SEEN was the Walther PP that was used in the development of the Olympia. Looted from the Walther factory collection by an Occupation GI, capture papers included, it looked like a regular PP except that it had the frame safety of the Olympia and its light trigger.
I would love to have an Olympia. How does it shoot?Can you post pictures?
 
#10 ·
It shot as well as I could hold the long skinny barrel and bead sight.
Unfortunately I long ago foolishly sold and traded it and several other uncommon .22s in a search for something different. I wish I hadn't.
It looked like this one except not threaded at the muzzle.
 
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The PP Sport was first built by Manurhin and also marked so. The gun came with the C suffix serial numbers, c for court, the French word for short. It also came with the longer barrel, where the serial number had the L suffix. The short version was available with the barrel weight with integral sights and a separate front sight, the long version had an optional clamp on weight made out of steel, much like for the LP53. They came in single action or double action and some had the round hammer of the standard PP, while many have the pointed target hammer with the pronounced spur.

In my younger age I had been intrigued by the Walther/Manurhin PP Sport and had used several as plinkers, the trigger characteristics and sights do not lend themselves very well for competitive shooting and I eventually got rid of all the PP Sports I had, having only standard PPs left.

I had made this barrel sleeve for my first PP Sport and the heavy steel weight improved the balance.
 
#14 ·
Speaking of Walther Olympic pistols, this is the 1936 model. It still works but the front sight flew off during an outing about ten years ago.

That's really cool. I found a schematic for it and it looks like the front sight is just a simple piece of steel that is pinned in place. It seems like it wouldn't be hard for a gunsmith the fabricate and replace.
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#22 ·
I recently got myself a Walther PP Sport 22.LR as well, same as yours, but I'm having trouble removing the weight/shroud, and am about to pull my hair out over it. How did you manage to remove it? I've removed the screw at its underside, as well as the nut on the barrel, but no dice. It's just slightly wiggling in place. Could you give a more detailed description of how you got it off? Many thanks!
 
#23 ·
I have always liked he various European 22 target and sport pistols. I have however gotten to the point where dealing with hard to find expensive magazines grips and other parts takes the enjoyment out of it. It took me 2+ years to find a specific spare part for a very early production beretta 22 and even after finding it ( I thought by the description and my correspondence with the seller it was the correct early version) it still wasn’t the corretc one! I made it work, but was such a pain.
 
#26 ·
To remove the weight, I first took out the slotted screw on the bottom of the weight. The threads are in the weight. The flat end of the screw fits into a notch for orientation. Then I removed the finger tight knurled barrel nut and the polymer spacer underneath it. The polymer space has a tight fit. The weight then slid off with no resistance.

The tight point seems to be at the polymer spacer. Are you able to remove it? If the barrel nut was over-tightened and the spacer hardened over time in a de-formed condition, I could see that being your problem. If you are able to remove the spacer and the weight is still stuck, then there must be corrosion somewhere locking the weight to the barrel.
 
#27 ·
I did the same steps; removed the bottom screw, the barrel nut, the washer, as well as the front sight, like you see in the picture. But still the weight is just wiggling in place, about 1 mm back and forth. Here's a video of how it moves: Am i missing something? Or is this a job for a gun smith?
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#28 ·
That is very strange. With all those parts removed, the weight just easily slide off my gun. It reminds me of the difficulty I had taking the barrel weight off of my P88 Champion. It turned out there were two set screws in the hole, rather than one! After removing the first set screw, I had to put the Allen wrench back in the hole to remove the second screw. I guess they figured stacked set screws would be more secure. I would make sure were isn’t another set screw still in the hole. Otherwise, I’d bring it to a gunsmith. Good luck.
 
#29 ·
I went to a gun smith today, and he got it off, in the end it just had to be pulled ridiculously hard. Albeit some damage was caused to the weight. Nothing that should affect performance, but still a bit sad since i appreciate pristine condition. Hard to tell if the cause for it being stuck was dirt, or maybe improper machining, who knows. Oh well, at least i can give it the proper cleaning it deserves now.
 
#31 ·
After the first removal it's been coming on an off far easier, but still a bit too forced for comfort, since the fit is pretty tight just before the trigger guard (see pictures above), and the weight is pretty brittle, since it's some sort of aluminum alloy, as well as very thin. Will probably look into getting it fixed at some point, but I've got no idea where to turn, since welding aluminum is difficult as it is, but particularly so when it comes to thin and small sheets. But i imagine finding a professional aluminum welder is probably a better bet than a gun smith for that job.