[vart]

Stopped by the local LGS to pick up some more Hornady XTPs and was window shopping and saw a Walther Creed.

I couldn't believe it was only $349. The clerk said it was Walther's cheap offering. I asked to see it, noted the decent fit and finish, and noted that it felt great in the hand.

Then I racked the slide and pulled the trigger. The release was clean, crisp, and incredibly light. Best trigger I've felt on a defensive pistol in a long time.

Other than the higher bore axis, what are the negatives about this pistol?

Thinking pretty serious about it as a truck gun and occasional CCW.

 

[bunk22]

So I have its predecessor, the Walther PPX. Ugly gun in just about every way but its ergonomics and the trigger is excellent. The Creed is the follow on, better looks but same trigger. Worth it for the price IMO.

 

[mattallamerican]

269.00 at cdnn

 

[SargeMO]

Only thing I can find wrong with it is that it's not available in 40 S&W.

 

[Will Rudy]

it's a 300-dollar gun. you get what you pay for.

 

[powernoodle]

269.00 at cdnn

Plus shipping, plus FFL.

An ergonomic grip and nice trigger from Walther for $250 less than Glock? Heck yeah. This "get what you pay for" stuff is horse hockey. A Taurus PT111 in the low $200's is a fantastic gun, 100% reliable with a nice trigger.

If a Creed, PT111 and Glock 19 were the same cost, it would be Glock no doubt. But budget guns can have a lot going for them if approached objectively rather than with preconceptions.

 

[March817]

Look at the new Ruger Security9

 

[vart]

it's a 300-dollar gun. you get what you pay for.

You mean better ergonomics than a Glock, better trigger, and slides and frames that actually match and look nice?

Or was there something else you wanted to point out?

 

[vart]

The 3-component barrel assembly is troubling; uses MIM for the barrel locking block.

 

[SargeMO]

Yeah lthe locking block is no place for MIM part. And I don't care who made it.

I'll pass on this one.

 

[peng]

Don't know the gun, but know a thing or 2 about cost cutting.

The gun is cheaper for a reason, the trick is to find the reasons and judge if they are important to you.

The problem is, some things you cannot see in a new gun, like durability, or corrosion protection, or bad metallurgy, or low cost country sourcing/assembly.

 

[mattallamerican]

Plus shipping, plus FFL.

An ergonomic grip and nice trigger from Walther for $250 less than Glock? Heck yeah. This "get what you pay for" stuff is horse hockey. A Taurus PT111 in the low $200's is a fantastic gun, 100% reliable with a nice trigger.

If a Creed, PT111 and Glock 19 were the same cost, it would be Glock no doubt. But budget guns can have a lot going for them if approached objectively rather than with preconceptions.

not much over 300.00

 

[bac1023]

It’s not something I’d buy, but I guess a decent gun for the money.

 

[bunk22]

The 3-component barrel assembly is troubling; uses MIM for the barrel locking block.

That to me is the biggest issue with this gun, not so sure who long it may last with this. Supposedly Walther did a 10,000 round durability test but who knows. I know it has had some issues because of the ramp coming loose. A friend of mine has two handguns, both PPX's, one black and one two tone. She has had them for a few years, rides with them but doesn't really shoot them. I guess they can get dirty lol

Now my PPX is one of my guns used for home defense. It is a back up home defense gun, has around 2000 rounds through it and now it sits hidden. It has an excellent trigger, is accurate but IMO, meant for the above. I would not carry one as a duty gun or combat carry as I just don't know how long a gun like this may last. It is $300 for a reason. Walther makes good guns and these are not Umarex made, so I think there is probably some craftiness in their design.

 

[Ebb27]

It is $300 for a reason. Walther makes good guns and these are not Umarex made, so I think there is probably some craftiness in their design.

It maybe made in a Walther factory and have their name on it but that thing looks Umarex all the way. Umarex didn't buy Walther just so they could keep making Walthers, they want the name and reputation on their products and this looks like a prime example.

Is it a decent gun for the money....could be. But it sure as heck isn't old school Walther quality even if it is what they're churning out in their factory nowadays.

 

[bunk22]

It maybe made in a Walther factory and have their name on it but that thing looks Umarex all the way. Umarex didn't buy Walther just so they could keep making Walthers, they want the name and reputation on their products and this looks like a prime example.

Is it a decent gun for the money....could be. But it sure as heck isn't old school Walther quality even if it is what they're churning out in their factory nowadays.

Umarex didn't and doesn't make the PPX or Creed. It is an entry level Walther and having both the PPX, PPQ and Creed, it is a decent gun for the price. I guess actually having experience on them helps me with having that perspective. The PPQ seems to be Walther's top of the gun chain right now. The PPX and Creed don't have the same feel as the PPQ or P99.

 

[grumpy1]

Walther seems to be selling a lot of Creeds and I am reading very little complaints of problems on Walther Forum and others. Creed and PPX owners seem to love them and say they are great shooters and even Hickok45 was impressed with shooting the PPX. Walther had to make some compromises to meet the price point and only time will tell how durable they are for the long haul but IMHO most Creed buyers are not going to be high volume shooters and like many will maybe shoot a couple hundred rounds a year. If someone asks me what pistol to buy and they have a hard budget of around $300, the Walther Creed is on the short list to check out along with the Smith and Wesson SD9VE and Ruger SR9E.

 

[Will Rudy]

Creed and PPX owners seem to love them and say they are great shooters and even Hickok45 was impressed with shooting the PPX.

Hickok has never met a gun he didn't like. For 300 bucks and change buy a Canik and you'll get the best value.

 

[vart]

Hickok has never met a gun he didn't like.

Yeah... I find his "reviews" to be less than helpful or insightful. He shoots the crap out of a bunch of soda cans and never says anything bad about any of the guns. Not that I've seen anyway.

I'm sure he's a nice guy and he's a good shot but his videos are pretty worthless when doing any firearms research.

 

[Jim B in CO]

The 3-component barrel assembly is troubling; uses MIM for the barrel locking block.

That's just...weird. :ack::dunno:

Sub-$300 I'd look at a used Ruger P-series.