Glock 19 for me. I have shot the P320 a couple of times now, and don't really care for it.

I'm not anti-Sig, I carried a P226 or P220 on & off-duty during my LEO days, and owned P228s, 229s, 225s, 239s, and 230/232s too.

 

Here is my perspective from owning and carrying both guns on and off duty for many years.

Yes the G19 is considered by most the standard to measure others against. The 19, is an excellent pistol, it is dead reliable, accurate, especially the Gen5, or mine have been and is simple to maintain, repair and upkeep. It does however have it faults, but there are caveats to them.

The ergos are by far not the best out there, this is however usually measured in a static environment, gun shop, show etc. Almost every other pistol out there feels better when your just holding it and finger banging it. The Glocks ergo go out the window when you start running it hard, such as in a high stress engagement. When time and hits on target are the purpose, the 19 and other Glocks excel at this, ergos be damned.

The Glock trigger, again, not the best by any stretch of the imagination, but once broke in, it isn't all that bad. It isn't a 1911 but it also isn't prone to breakage or failures. The one part that can break, trigger return spring, doesn't render the pistol useless in the event it does give out. You can still manually move the trigger forward and stay in the fight. The 320 on the other hand, if it's trigger return spring fails, you will need to throw it at the target, cut the pistol is now useless.

Aftermarket support and parts availability have no equal when it comes to Glock, and I am a 320 armorer, and some of the 320's parts are like hens teeth. It is easy to locate just about anything you need for a Glock, OEM or otherwise, and it takes no time at all to get a broken one up and running again.

Now for the 320, X, Pro or any other series of 320. They are fantastic weapons, and I do like the 320 quite a bit. I have owned several since 2015, and they have all been dead reliable.

The 320's ergo are very good even with the standard frames, and are even better with an AXG, Wilson Combat or any number of other manufacturers. This is a huge plus for the 320 and where the modularity pays off. Again this is when holding one in a static environment, when you run the 320 hard, the high bore axis becomes more apparent. Now I'm not saying it's the end all be all and will cause you to have issues shooting it fast, but it is something that will be observed, especially in the smaller models, the X compact, and X carry, and pro carry models. In my experience even though they have better ergos, it takes just a bit more to control them under rapid shot strings. It's just physics, and there ain't much that can be done about that.

When it comes to deliberate slow to medium speed shooting, the 320 and it's trigger is awesome. The 320 trigger is far more forgiving due to its single action characteristics. Then again I can do the same with my Glock, but I have been shooting them for years. The 320 allows you to do it without much work.

Parts with the 320 are a pain in the arse to get. I have had trouble getting guide rods and a few other things for my department, and again I'm an armorer. Aftermarket support as far as parts is getting there for the 320, and I suspect will continue to get better as time goes on.

One thing that has bugged me about Sig and the 320 since its introduction is their QC sucks, plain and simple. I have a local LE distributor I purchase my 320s from so I get to handle all of his stock when picking one out. The last time I purchased one I looked at 7, 320 pro carrys. Every single one of them had some sort of issue, optic plates finishes looked like they had been tumbled with rocks, rear sight channels not cut evenly, triggers all over the place as far as break and reset, one had a dead front night sight, one had FCU that wasn't machined correctly, the trigger bar rubbed on it during the pull increasing the weight to the point of almost not breaking, it goes on an on. I typically have to pick the one that has the least amount of issue and move on, that chaps me. It just says to me they are building as fast as they can and damned everything else. Volume over quality, and honestly, with who is the CEO Im not surprised. he did the same thing with Kimber. FWIW I would never purchase a 320 without first putting my hands on it and inspecting it. Glock have had some QC issues as well, but they aren't typically as obvious as Sigs.

I digress, Either one of them will likely serve you well and do whatever you want it to. The X compact is a fine pistol and the one I had was a great shooter. The Gen5 G19 I have is also a great shooter and has been dead reliable. Ultimately you need to decide which one you like best. If you can find a range that has the two for rent, I would start with that. Don't just poke hols in paper with it either. Do some strings of fire if possible, so you can really get the feel of each one.

Sorry for the long post, and I wish I could have helped a bit more. The next question is what is in my holster right now?. Well currently I am carrying My Gen5 19. Despite Sig fixing the drop fir issue on the 320's they haven't put enough distance between them and that for me to trust the 320 100%. With that, I may also carry one of my 320s again next week on duty, who knows.




TXPO

 

Here is my perspective from owning and carrying both guns on and off duty for many years.

Yes the G19 is considered by most the standard to measure others against. The 19, is an excellent pistol, it is dead reliable, accurate, especially the Gen5, or mine have been and is simple to maintain, repair and upkeep. It does however have it faults, but there are caveats to them.

The ergos are by far not the best out there, this is however usually measured in a static environment, gun shop, show etc. Almost every other pistol out there feels better when your just holding it and finger banging it. The Glocks ergo go out the window when you start running it hard, such as in a high stress engagement. When time and hits on target are the purpose, the 19 and other Glocks excel at this, ergos be damned.

The Glock trigger, again, not the best by any stretch of the imagination, but once broke in, it isn't all that bad. It isn't a 1911 but it also isn't prone to breakage or failures. The one part that can break, trigger return spring, doesn't render the pistol useless in the event it does give out. You can still manually move the trigger forward and stay in the fight. The 320 on the other hand, if it's trigger return spring fails, you will need to throw it at the target, cut the pistol is now useless.

Aftermarket support and parts availability have no equal when it comes to Glock, and I am a 320 armorer, and some of the 320's parts are like hens teeth. It is easy to locate just about anything you need for a Glock, OEM or otherwise, and it takes no time at all to get a broken one up and running again.

Now for the 320, X, Pro or any other series of 320. They are fantastic weapons, and I do like the 320 quite a bit. I have owned several since 2015, and they have all been dead reliable.

The 320's ergo are very good even with the standard frames, and are even better with an AXG, Wilson Combat or any number of other manufacturers. This is a huge plus for the 320 and where the modularity pays off. Again this is when holding one in a static environment, when you run the 320 hard, the high bore axis becomes more apparent. Now I'm not saying it's the end all be all and will cause you to have issues shooting it fast, but it is something that will be observed, especially in the smaller models, the X compact, and X carry, and pro carry models. In my experience even though they have better ergos, it takes just a bit more to control them under rapid shot strings. It's just physics, and there ain't much that can be done about that.

When it comes to deliberate slow to medium speed shooting, the 320 and it's trigger is awesome. The 320 trigger is far more forgiving due to its single action characteristics. Then again I can do the same with my Glock, but I have been shooting them for years. The 320 allows you to do it without much work.

Parts with the 320 are a pain in the arse to get. I have had trouble getting guide rods and a few other things for my department, and again I'm an armorer. Aftermarket support as far as parts is getting there for the 320, and I suspect will continue to get better as time goes on.

One thing that has bugged me about Sig and the 320 since its introduction is their QC sucks, plain and simple. I have a local LE distributor I purchase my 320s from so I get to handle all of his stock when picking one out. The last time I purchased one I looked at 7, 320 pro carrys. Every single one of them had some sort of issue, optic plates finishes looked like they had been tumbled with rocks, rear sight channels not cut evenly, triggers all over the place as far as break and reset, one had a dead front night sight, one had FCU that wasn't machined correctly, the trigger bar rubbed on it during the pull increasing the weight to the point of almost not breaking, it goes on an on. I typically have to pick the one that has the least amount of issue and move on, that chaps me. It just says to me they are building as fast as they can and damned everything else. Volume over quality, and honestly, with who is the CEO Im not surprised. he did the same thing with Kimber. FWIW I would never purchase a 320 without first putting my hands on it and inspecting it. Glock have had some QC issues as well, but they aren't typically as obvious as Sigs.

I digress, Either one of them will likely serve you well and do whatever you want it to. The X compact is a fine pistol and the one I had was a great shooter. The Gen5 G19 I have is also a great shooter and has been dead reliable. Ultimately you need to decide which one you like best. If you can find a range that has the two for rent, I would start with that. Don't just poke hols in paper with it either. Do some strings of fire if possible, so you can really get the feel of each one.

Sorry for the long post, and I wish I could have helped a bit more. The next question is what is in my holster right now?. Well currently I am carrying My Gen5 19. Despite Sig fixing the drop fir issue on the 320's they haven't put enough distance between them and that for me to trust the 320 100%. With that, I may also carry one of my 320s again next week on duty, who knows.




TXPO

thanks for all of that. I’m in TX as well and I just shot my LEO buddies G19, he’s in Grand Prairie. I already carry a P365X that has not given me any issues but my wife to be wants to get me another gun as a wedding present. So I’ve been eyeing those two options as far as winter carry/do it all type gun. I have been leaning towards the 19 MOS.

 

Since this is a Glock forum don’t be surprised if the vote goes to the G19.

 

XFrame does make the 320 feel much better compared to the stock frame, but I still dislike the ludicrously tall slide.

Also, after all the stuff and lawsuits, I’m not sure I’ll ever fully trust a 320 as drop safe, unfairly I’m sure but it’s there.

Glock 19 is my gold standard for a carry/duty gun.

Though, the 365xl has taken over for me as my EDC and I’m not sure I’ll be going back even this winter, but we’ll see.

 

Pick the one you like better. Two guns designed for the exact same roll and both equally capable in it. For me, personally, it’s easily the 19 year round. The people who chose the 320 are just as correct.

 

Between the two pistols listed, I would choose the G19. However, for me, it will be my HK VP9.

 

I do like the VP9. My future father in law has one and it shot real well…I guess that’s an option too! I’m just not sure how many platforms I should be running - I know people say it doesn’t matter if you train them all. But I don’t always have the time or money for ammo for all of them consistently. I go to the range every 3-4 weeks.

 

I’d say keep the optic on the 365x, it’s not any harder to conceal, IMO, over the regular 365x and commonality between summer/winter options can only help.

I liked mine so much … I ended up with two. One for dry fire and backup (got it in a nice trade), though I do like the XL longer barrel.

 

They look great! And that’s true. The holosun is quite small to be fair.

 

Own both, like both, both are very accurate. Carry both. But, I trust my freakin life to the G19 MUCH more than my XCompact if the **** hits the fan. And… the G19 is easier to carry. For some reason the G19 feels better AIWB than the XCompact does. Kinda strange as technically the G19 is slightly longer but the grip feels better on the Glock. The ergos on the Sig are good, just sticks out more on me than the Glock. I’m using identical holsters from same company yet designed specifically for each model.
Oh… both of mine are cut for an optic but I choose to not put optics on carry weapons. To me that is just something else to possibly go wrong Lord forbidding I would ever need it. Now, HD and range guns. I love the dot.

 

Own both, like both, both are very accurate. Carry both. But, I trust my freakin life to the G19 MUCH more than my XCompact if the **** hits the fan. And… the G19 is easier to carry. For some reason the G19 feels better AIWB than the XCompact does. Kinda strange as technically the G19 is slightly longer but the grip feels better on the Glock. The ergos on the Sig are good, just sticks out more on me than the Glock. I’m using identical holsters from same company yet designed specifically for each model.

I am leaning towards the G19, especially after trying my friends and shooting it well.

 

I have both and I would go with the G19. I shoot it better and for me it carries a little better.

 

In those two cases gotta go Sig. If a G17 was an option I would pick that. Before someone asks why I will just say Glock knuckle is a real thing.

 

I prefer the Sig.

 

Make mine a 19X, please.

 

I love my P320 Spectre Comp and AXG Pro.

I can’t do any P320 for carry though. Fully cocked trigger pull is too short with no trigger safety. Just not comfortable with it.

Give me a G19.

 

I own both, but I have to give the nod to the G19. The 320XC is a VERY nice handgun, but the trigger pull is a little light for my EDC purposes. Both are very accurate handguns, but I have a much longer history with the G19 than I do with the 320XC and the G19 reliability is second to none.

 

Thanks fellas. Im sold on the g19 or (shadow systems version)

 

The P320 flat trigger and ergos feel a ton better than the Glock.

 

That is totally subjective. Learn the platform and train with it, develop a feel for the system, practice with the system, and anything will feel comfortable and correct.
I've been shooting Glocks since the mid 80's in the military, civilian life, and competition and the trigger shape is something that has never had any impact on me.
Stock Glock parts work great as designed- it's just too funny when people have to change every part because they "can't" shoot well with the factory-stock pistol.

 

Nether glock or p320x for me .
M&P - you get most model optic ready and with thumb rest if wanted Sig x is cartridge choice limited too . I had p320's an early compact that wasa solid shooter but after buying a p320xc that ended it for me and sold both . MY wife has been a m&p girl and a daughter but about the time I unloaded the sigs my daughter wanted to trade me her HD pistol , a M&P full size 4.25 40 for a slightly smaller 9mm she could carry . I found that my newly traded for 10 year old 40sw to be a great shooter and has well supported chambers so with the sigs gone I picked up a new m&p 2.0 compact 4" 9mm sku 13144 to replace the p320xc as a optic ready future CC then pick up a m&p 5" pc sku: 11825 that is just a great shooter with a good stock trigger . Most of our m&p's have some apex upgrades and I HATE flat triggers . My new one is a sku:11825 40sw 5" pro series old trigger that is a very good shooting pistol and I am now carrying it some in a infidel ultra max iwb holster at 3:00 an I'm only 5-9 .

I also carry a lw commander in 45.

Theres still some old 2.0 trigger models put there and some are rather good , But here the current s&w m&p page
M&P® M2.0™ | Smith & Wesson (smith-wesson.com)

 

My favorite carry are my Sig p365's but on this poll, the G19 is for me easily over the 320x .

 

I personally wouldn’t choose either for a carry gun, but to just own I would choose the 320. Other than the 10mm glocks, they do nothing for me and I find I have to do stuff (like real sights) to them to be okay with them. I like the 320s out of the box.

 

Glock if it’s between the 320 and the 19. The drop safety issue on the 320 pretty much turned me off of them.


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Yeah, neither. My 365 is my 365.

 

I’m an armorer for the 320 platform as well as Glock. I run a 320 or 365 off duty most of the time. My vote is still for Glock. They’re easier to work on, parts availability is much better for the Glocks, and Glock is just reliable to a fault. Not saying Sig isn’t. I love my Sigs but Glock is a much easier to operate platform in my opinion.

 

I voted with the crowd for the G19.

I like the 320 trigger and the way it shoots. In one hand, the grip feels great. It comes with nice sights.

I am an admitted Glock fanboy. Overall, I like the Glock better. The flat grip allows more meat contact with my support hand. The bore axis is lower. Odd to call a Glock thin, but it is slimmer than the 320. The sides are smoother and I feel it conceals a bit easier. Mags are about half the price of 320 mags. Holster and other accessories are easier to find.

The 320 is a great gun and I enjoy shooting it, but the Glock is my go to.

 

I voted with the crowd for the G19.

I like the 320 trigger and the way it shoots. In one hand, the grip feels great. It comes with nice sights.

I am an admitted Glock fanboy. Overall, I like the Glock better. The flat grip allows more meat contact with my support hand. The bore axis is lower. Odd to call a Glock thin, but it is slimmer than the 320. The sides are smoother and I feel it conceals a bit easier. Mags are about half the price of 320 mags. Holster and other accessories are easier to find.

The 320 is a great gun and I enjoy shooting it, but the Glock is my go to.

trigger sells the 320

 

big fan of both .. both run great ... 320 looks sexier