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The Official Ruger RXM Thread--Table Of Contents Added to Post #1

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ETA: June 8th 2025 Added TOC. Use Browser function CTRL+F and search for a keyword right here on this page and see if it pops up in the Table Of Contents. :) Eg: CTRL+F Timney.

RXM Thread Table of Contents

1. Page 1 Post #1--
Initial Impressions Review & Photos
2. Page 2 Posts #31, 37, 39-- FrankenGunBuilder and his excellent RXM Trolling
3. Page 8 Post #145--1st RXM Range Rep USE CTRL+F Search Conclusion for TL;DR Rep
4. Page 9 Post #169--PMAGs and Glock Mags Update
5. Page 10 Post #192--2nd RXM Range Rep-Changing to Glock Mags for RXM Rep
6. Page 11 Post #218--More FrankenGunBuilder's excellent RXM Trolling
7. Page 12 Post #221--LaneP's hilarious RXM Trolling
8. Page 14 Post #279--TexasPOff's excellent RXM Range Rep
9. Page 15 Post #283--Several good posts by a couple of us on PMAGs on this page
10. Page 17 Post #330--Optics mounting close up shots-RXM with TLR-7X and 507C
11. Page 18 Post #341--Weapon Light and Optics Live Fire Tests Range Rep
12. Page 21 Post #416--Rich_J's excellent Holosun K and EPS Footprint RXM Walkthrough
13. Page 22 Post #423--Glock Mag/Follower potential issue video on YT
14. Page 22 Post #435--2nd RXM Range Rep and PMAG issue with photos/updates
15. Page 23 Post #453--Rich_J provides Holosun screw length info for RXM extractor
16. Page 24 Post #467--Rich_J provides info on use of Striker Control Device in RXM
17. Page 24 Post #469--RXM Chassis / FCU pulled and close up photos
18. Page 25 Post #491--Rich_J Short Range Rep
19. Page 26 Post #516--Holster Compatibility; Post 519 more holster compatibility
20. Page 27 Post #537--Another long winded but informative and fun RXM Range trip
21. Page 28 Post #545--Holosun C Series and RMR size optic slide overhang photos
22. Page 29 Post #578-579--Close ups of RXM Barrel Chatter Issue
23. Page 30 Post #599--Excellent Info post by Rich_J on accuracy
24. Page 32 Post #629--Ruger Response to Barrel Chattering/Tooling
25. Page 33 Post #648--Ak103K's Range Rep w/Multiple RXMs and Mag types
26. Page 34 Post #670--Post Ruger Barrel Fix Range Rep
27. Page 35 Post #687--GTWRalph's Range Rep
28. Page 35 Post #690--MCPreacher's Post Ruger Barrel Fix Range Rep
29. Page 36 Post #703--FrankenGunBuilder's RXM Build with Ambi Slide Stop
30. Page 37 Post #721--PilatusTurbo Self Appoints as RXM Fanboy Club President
31. Page 37 Post #728--GTWRalph 2nd RXM and votes for PilatusTurbo! :D
32. Page 37 Post #737--AK103K's RXM Stippling Work
33. Page 38 Post #744--PilatusTurbo's RXM G26 Size Grip Chop & FDE Grip Module
34. Page 39 Post #768--GTWRalph posts another excellent Range Rep
35. Page 41 Post #805--Rich_J posts excellent Connector Diagram and info
36. Page 41 Post #818--BoilerGonzo Excellent Initial Impressions w/Photos Post
37. Page 43 Post #845--Vart posts his RXM Video Range Rep
38. Page 44 Post #864--FrankenGunBuilder Timney Trigger Info
39. Page 45 Post #881--GTWRalph posts how to Rit Dye the RXM Frame
40. Page 46 Post #906--FrankenGunBuilder posts a cool RXM Build
41. Page 47 Post #926--Ten-42 Posts excellent RXM Range Rep
42. Page 47 Post #928--Damn_Yankee's very short and concise Initial Impressions and Range Rep-Positive
43. Page 50 Post #1000--Damn_Yankee linked RXM Magwells on Ebay
44. Page 53 Post #1048--Damn_Yankee Rit Dye Step-by-Step Instructions for dying RXM frame black.

Original Post #1

Well, I fell for it, or the marketing, or the "gotta have it" or whatever, and I'm gonna guinea pig it for GT. I went and had a look at it, and I will say, I'm impressed. Walked out having purchased it for $395.99. Please enjoy the thread, all commentary positive, neutral, and negative welcome. I don't care if you like or dislike the new RXM, I'd still like to hear. I hope this will become the new thread for this thing moving forward, here on GT.

I got a host of pics here for you guys, and please request any additional pics. I wanted to really see the FCU, and all that.
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INITIAL IMPRESSIONS: Grip feels better than a Gen 3 19, but still large, but feels good. Fit and finish, especially machining of the slide is immaculate, and very consistent. Smooth nitride finish, similar to my favorite S&W Armornite or whatever the hell they call it.
GRIP: Grip texture is perfect. I mean that, Magpul nailed it. Undercut is minimal, but feels great. Backstrap is consistent radius, and minimal beavertail. Trigger guard is rounded, no texture on front of it, doesn't matter to me. ETA: Forgot to add, nicely molded in integrated flared magwell. Visually unobtrusive, but functionally there if you gotta have one. Nice to have.
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CONTROLS: Are nice and extended just enough. Style language is a bit new to me, but I'm pretty happy with it.
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TRIGGER: Like a Gen 3 Glock, but it's just a hair nicer. Reset is stronger, but a little longer, by sev than my G19.3. I wonder if it's a Ruger "minus" connector, but time will tell. Kinda flat faced, kinda not. I'm not confirmation biasing myself to death, but it's one of the nicest trigger shoes on a plastic gun yet, IMO.
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SIGHTS: Blacked out serrated rear, and Tritium white outline front. Suppressor/optics height, but still fit the gun nicely even without an optic.
ETA: Tritium glow isn't bad, but could be brighter. I'm used to Truglos which are nearly bright enough to read by in a dark room.
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OPTICS CUT: Haven't taken the plate off, no need yet, but it's designed to fit 3 different patterns: RMR, DPP, RMSc with no plates required. I'll get a pic soon and edit the thread, here.
FCU: Intriguing. I was very curious as to how they did this, and it's looking pretty cool.
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I hope to actually get out and shoot it soon, perhaps tomorrow, if time permits. Regardless of how it performs, I decided to get on board early with this one. Even if it does have issues, which I hope Ruger realizes a solid launch is critical, I know Ruger will have our back and make it right whatever it takes. If it shoots anything like my Gen 3 Glock 19, but improved, I think it's gonna be winner.
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Thanks for reading. Fire away with the comments!
 
#131 ·
And yet nobody says, "Gee, another Armalite copy, how innovative!" when it comes to AR-15s or "Gee, another Colt copy, how innovative!" when it comes to the 1911.

The Gen 3 19 is the new 1911 / AR-15 / 10-22. It has become a de facto open source standard.
Exactly. You hit the nail on the head. Gen 3 is new AR.
OK, I went with this. Will pick up latter today. $364.24 out the door.
Did I need ANOTHER pistol, no, but for less than $375, I'll take the chance.
Very cool! Great price! 😁
 
#132 ·
Glad to see this, hope Ruger is finally fielding a successful "full" size semi-auto line up.
Maybe their marketing department is taking some cues from Glock this time...

It'll take a long slide / compact frame .40 S&W to suck money out of my wallet. Fingers crossed, but not holding my breath just yet.
 
#134 ·
Well, I fell for it, or the marketing, or the "gotta have it" or whatever, and I'm gonna guinea pig it for GT. I went and had a look at it, and I will say, I'm impressed. Walked out having purchased it for $395.99. Please enjoy the thread, all commentary positive, neutral, and negative welcome. I don't care if you like or dislike the new RXM, I'd still like to hear. I hope this will become the new thread for this thing moving forward, here on GT.

I got a host of pics here for you guys, and please request any additional pics. I wanted to really see the FCU, and all that.
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INITIAL IMPRESSIONS: Grip feels better than a Gen 3 19, but still large, but feels good. Fit and finish, especially machining of the slide is immaculate, and very consistent. Smooth nitride finish, similar to my favorite S&W Armornite or whatever the hell they call it.
GRIP: Grip texture is perfect. I mean that, Magpul nailed it. Undercut is minimal, but feels great. Backstrap is consistent radius, and minimal beavertail. Trigger guard is rounded, no texture on front of it, doesn't matter to me. ETA: Forgot to add, nicely molded in integrated flared magwell. Visually unobtrusive, but functionally there if you gotta have one. Nice to have.
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CONTROLS: Are nice and extended just enough. Style language is a bit new to me, but I'm pretty happy with it.
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TRIGGER: Like a Gen 3 Glock, but it's just a hair nicer. Reset is stronger, but a little longer, by sev than my G19.3. I wonder if it's a Ruger "minus" connector, but time will tell. Kinda flat faced, kinda not. I'm not confirmation biasing myself to death, but it's one of the nicest trigger shoes on a plastic gun yet, IMO.
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SIGHTS: Blacked out serrated rear, and Tritium white outline front. Suppressor/optics height, but still fit the gun nicely even without an optic.
ETA: Tritium glow isn't bad, but could be brighter. I'm used to Truglos which are nearly bright enough to read by in a dark room.
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OPTICS CUT: Haven't taken the plate off, no need yet, but it's designed to fit 3 different patterns: RMR, DPP, RMSc with no plates required. I'll get a pic soon and edit the thread, here.
FCU: Intriguing. I was very curious as to how they did this, and it's looking pretty cool.
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I hope to actually get out and shoot it soon, perhaps tomorrow, if time permits. Regardless of how it performs, I decided to get on board early with this one. Even if it does have issues, which I hope Ruger realizes a solid launch is critical, I know Ruger will have our back and make it right whatever it takes. If it shoots anything like my Gen 3 Glock 19, but improved, I think it's gonna be winner.
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Thanks for reading. Fire away with the comments!
It looks like it takes Glock pattern sights. Is that the case? There are two things about it that make me not interested. First, I am not fond of flat backstraps and even less fond of non-replaceable backstraps. I typically run my Glocks with the medium beavertail backstrap. It has just enough of a palm swell to satisfy my Walther P-99 proclivity. The second issue is the inability to replace the trigger. I acknowledge that stock Glock triggers are less than ideal. Before I even take my Glocks to the range, they all get a trigger job (except for my Glock 21 because I can't find a trigger for it). I won't be able to do that for the RxM (yet). Having said that, I think the RxM will appeal to those who want a G19 MOS at a sub-$500 price. I believe this was a smart move on Ruger's part as it results in about a $200 savings, leaving money available to buy an optic.
 
#137 · (Edited)
Well, I fell for it, or the marketing, or the "gotta have it" or whatever, and I'm gonna guinea pig it for GT. I went and had a look at it, and I will say, I'm impressed. Walked out having purchased it for $395.99. Please enjoy the thread, all commentary positive, neutral, and negative welcome. I don't care if you like or dislike the new RXM, I'd still like to hear. I hope this will become the new thread for this thing moving forward, here on GT.

I got a host of pics here for you guys, and please request any additional pics. I wanted to really see the FCU, and all that.
Image

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INITIAL IMPRESSIONS: Grip feels better than a Gen 3 19, but still large, but feels good. Fit and finish, especially machining of the slide is immaculate, and very consistent. Smooth nitride finish, similar to my favorite S&W Armornite or whatever the hell they call it.
GRIP: Grip texture is perfect. I mean that, Magpul nailed it. Undercut is minimal, but feels great. Backstrap is consistent radius, and minimal beavertail. Trigger guard is rounded, no texture on front of it, doesn't matter to me. ETA: Forgot to add, nicely molded in integrated flared magwell. Visually unobtrusive, but functionally there if you gotta have one. Nice to have.
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CONTROLS: Are nice and extended just enough. Style language is a bit new to me, but I'm pretty happy with it.
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TRIGGER: Like a Gen 3 Glock, but it's just a hair nicer. Reset is stronger, but a little longer, by sev than my G19.3. I wonder if it's a Ruger "minus" connector, but time will tell. Kinda flat faced, kinda not. I'm not confirmation biasing myself to death, but it's one of the nicest trigger shoes on a plastic gun yet, IMO.
Image

SIGHTS: Blacked out serrated rear, and Tritium white outline front. Suppressor/optics height, but still fit the gun nicely even without an optic.
ETA: Tritium glow isn't bad, but could be brighter. I'm used to Truglos which are nearly bright enough to read by in a dark room.
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OPTICS CUT: Haven't taken the plate off, no need yet, but it's designed to fit 3 different patterns: RMR, DPP, RMSc with no plates required. I'll get a pic soon and edit the thread, here.
FCU: Intriguing. I was very curious as to how they did this, and it's looking pretty cool.
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I hope to actually get out and shoot it soon, perhaps tomorrow, if time permits. Regardless of how it performs, I decided to get on board early with this one. Even if it does have issues, which I hope Ruger realizes a solid launch is critical, I know Ruger will have our back and make it right whatever it takes. If it shoots anything like my Gen 3 Glock 19, but improved, I think it's gonna be winner.
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Thanks for reading. Fire away with the comments!
Great info, thank you. Apologies if stated, but is this model it's own/unique parts, or can I interchange with Glock parts?

Also, I'm curious as to the intended market? I'm suspecting it's being a more price friendly option to Glock, but with the peace of mind of trusted MFR names. LEO trade ins make Glocks available to all, but not everyone trusts "used" perhaps. Your thoughts?
 
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#145 · (Edited)
OK guys, results are in. Just over 300 rounds, 100+ of them being Magtech 115 gr JHP brass, and 200+ of S&B 115 gr FMJ. Results are solid, and as follows. I broke my cardinal rule, didn't have time to clean it last night or today prior to range trip, so this is straight outta the box from Ruger. It got compared to all my Glocks (the relevant ones like Doublestacks), but all the cool kids came out today. Sorry, I don't do TL;DR versions. Last paragraph labeled Conclusion is kinda the summary.
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First 3 mags were 46 rounds of the JHP. Mag #1 (we'll get to why I'm glad I did # the mags in a bit) was 15+1, and we had a nosedive on the very last round in the mag. I went to drop it, and it wouldn't after locking back, because it hadn't locked back. Gave it a hard tap on the bottom, slide lumbered into battery and fired that round. It went through the remaining JHP ammo in both mags without issue.

Subsequently, within 45 minutes, I ran 200 rounds of the S&B FMJ through it without a burp of any kind. Trigger and shooting impulse are more pleasant than the Glock 19 Gen 3, but obviously not as smooth as a 17 or 19X. 19X is a rad gun, BTW. :) The trigger on the RXM is noticeably nicer in the sense that you don't get the Glock dingus; the RXM trigger face goes fully flush and is smooth, and no Glock blister forming from the trigger guard drag. No Glock knuckle with their subtle but smart undercut.

I did give it a cool down period of 5-10 minutes between each 100 rounds, but it got dirty and hot. Hot enough to where the FCU takedown pin/thing was uncomfortably hot on my support thumb riding the frame there. As I said, I really did enjoy shooting it more than the 19, but call that confirmation bias or genuine enjoyment, YMMV. I feel like that Magpul frame just works. Again, very comfortable and no Glock knuckle, no trigger finger drag.
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Accuracy is good, for my not very practiced skill level at this moment. The central target was me at 15 yards (max for the range) not going slow or stupid fast. I need practice, I know. Bottom left, up, then upper right, all at 7 yards. I slowed down for that last top right quadrant, and was pleased with that. It's better than I am. It's a combat hold even with those tall sights and windage from factory was solid; all the low and/or left stuff is me.

Gave it some good cooldown time before the last JHP ammo and ran some other stuff. :D
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The SR22 with my new Sparrow is stupid quiet. It does cycle subsonic CCI (3 people including the FFL that sold it to me asked if it would), and it's just stupidly quiet. It ran beautifully, but wouldn't lock back on any mags. Odd, because they lock back by hand just fine, and it didn't miss feed any of the CCI minimags or subs. The little LCP 2 in 22LR was the star today. 150+ rounds of CCI Minimag varmint without any failures. I'm super happy with that result, after Ruger sent me a new firing pin and I did the Galloway spring job on it, she's purring like a kitten, and for 22 I'll take that result. I only ran 2 mags through my Max 9 I was carrying today, and of course it runs. The funniest moment of today was I ran 5 mags through the LCP 2 22, then went and shot another mag through the Max 9. Felt like going from 9mm to HANDCANNON; I forgot I was just shooting a 22. :D Max 9 ran nicely, as did the Glock 43. 3 OEM Glock 43 mags all loaded up twice, of the same JHP ammo, again just as light function testing @GlockyQ ;) That Max 9 does not disappoint, nor did my 43. Only ran one mag through the 26, as she almost didn't get to come along but I figured that was hurtful to leave one Glock home. It would resent me.


It was time for the final 3 mags of JHP ammo.
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Mag #1, same thing, ran all 15 rounds, then nose dove on the last shot. Tap on the bottom and into battery and sent. Mag #2, same thing. All 14 rounds fine, then the last round, nose dove. Tap and into battery and sent. Mag #3, all 15 rounds and locked back on empty. I had a little extra JHP leftover from the 100, and another box, so I loaded another 15+1 into Mag #3, and 6 and 6+1 into #1 and #2, respectively. Mag #3 ran all 16 and locked back on empty. Mags #1 and 2 both ran through the 5 and 6 rounds, and nose dove on that last round. Both instances, I was able to slap the bottom of the mag, the slide lumbered forward (kinda kerklunkity feeling each time) and sent the round.



This was the first time in a while I've run 300 rounds through a gun in a while, and man it was awesome and felt good. Usually I bring too much to the range and run a mag or two and then shoot rifles.

Conclusion: My conclusion, at least, after one range trip is that it did satisfactorily. I would've loved to have seen zero issues, though, it did not have any FTE or FTF, stovepipes, cantankerous cycling, none of that. I am happy that I was able to isolate, and even replicate the issue with Mags #1 and #2. The odd correlation is that those are the two that came with it. Mag #3 is one I bought when I bought the gun, but I can't discern any difference between them. I do plan to take the PMAGs apart and look closely at the followers and tube interior, etc.
Accuracy, shootability, ergos and comfort during shooting the RXM were all there and enjoyable. As you can see, we're readying to clean it and it did get put through its paces. If I note anything odd like damage or excessive wear to any internals, I'll report back and show.
I do plan to get out again this week, either on my day off on Tuesday or Saturday and fully replicate this test. I'm curious as to whether I should buy a couple more mags and keep Mags #1 and 2 as range/FMJ mags only. I'd love to hear from people who've specifically run PMAGs in Glocks and others and had issues with them, what the issues were, etc.

Final thoughts:
Happy I bought it, I do have faith in it, and as long as it continues to work at this level, I'm good with it. As I said, I enjoyed shooting it more than my 19 Gen 3, and that says something. It was a fun range day, with everything running pretty damn nicely, especially the ones that count (carry guns) and that's always a great thing. :)
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@MarkCO They did actually have some Speer GDHP 147s there, but $76.50 for 50, I couldn't do it, but I did think about ya! :D
Gratuitous Glock pic for GT. :D
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#149 ·
I'd love to hear from people who've specifically run PMAGs in Glocks and others and had issues with them, what the issues were, etc
I do have a bunch. We used several in Sub2000s in American Marksman and I used them in my SCT/PSA (G19 size) assembly and G22s with a 9mm conversion barrel.

I've had one that gave me problems. Sent back to MagPul and they sent me a 10 rounder back that has run fine. I don't know what the issue was.

Again, sincere thanks for your work here.
 
#151 ·
I do have a bunch. We used several in Sub2000s in American Marksman and I used them in my SCT/PSA (G19 size) assembly and G22s with a 9mm conversion barrel.

I've had one that gave me problems. Sent back to MagPul and they sent me a 10 rounder back that has run fine. I don't know what the issue was.

Again, sincere thanks for your work here.
I may contact them for the hell of it, in that case. They may be interested in hearing that both mags that came with the gun are doing it.

You, and anyone interested, are very welcome. I've been on a Ruger trip this last year, enjoying their stuff. I figured this was a perfect chance for me to get involved and do some reviewing, testing, etc.

While I'm sure you're supply of JHPs to burn through at the range isn't limitless, it would be interesting to test out the gun with ~3 OEM G19 mags both full and partially full to see if any of them induce the issue.

Even though it comes with Magpul magazines, if I buy an RXM, I'd be more inclined to use Glock mags in it.
This is good advice, and I hadn't considered it. I'll probably try Glock mags in it and vice versa, run the PMAGs in question in my 19 and see if that issue persists. I'm pretty highly confident it's the mags, but ya never know.

I don't have a bottomless supply of JHP as you said, however, I can also load the first two rounds into each mag as that JHP, then the rest can be FMJ. This will keep it to the bottom/end of the mags. I hate to do that, but it saves on the ammo expenditure, and it did not happen until that last round. I'll figure how I want to test it further. Like I mentioned, a call to Magpul may be in order. Not a Karen call, but just to ask if there's a known reason, and perhaps they want to know, too.
 
#153 ·
Needs a complete teardown and testing for swap-ability of various parts to see how many OEM Glock parts people can put in. One huge attraction of Glock is the ability to play Mr Potato Head, or Barbie, and play gunsmith.
Specifically the frame internals.
The slide will likely be completely cloned, boring.

Is the grip rubberized? There's a tendency for certain polymers to get tacky, nasty, and gross after several years.
 
#154 ·
Was the malfunctions only with the hollow points or all the different rounds?
Only JHP, and only the last round in Mags #1 and #2, not in #3.

Needs a complete teardown and testing for swap-ability of various parts to see how many OEM Glock parts people can put in. One huge attraction of Glock is the ability to play Mr Potato Head, or Barbie, and play gunsmith.
Specifically the frame internals.
The slide will likely be completely cloned, boring.

Is the grip rubberized? There's a tendency for certain polymers to get tacky, nasty, and gross after several years.
I had been waiting for the good ol' cynical cciman to show up :D I won't be doing all that. I'm doing T&E for hobbyist purposes and fun. I'm not gonna dive into the deep technical crap like parts interchangeability of the FCU with OEM Gen 3 parts, at least anytime soon. I'm sure big YT guys will do technical stuff in due time, so be patient. :D

I like the slide a lot, but you're correct. Looks like it could be a Brownell's Gen 3 OR slide.

Grip is MAGPUL polymer... So, if you have any grips or handguards, parts from Magpul... :ROFLMAO: o_O :ROFLMAO:
 
#163 ·
Absolutely. I basically wrote it off. If it had occurred halfway through the mags or somewhere between first and last rounds, maybe. However, you're on point about it not having been cleaned and oiled. Not an excuse, but it does give a little room. It still ran very well. Testing will continue, but it'll have to wait until I can get to Ben Avery, as Shooter's world now wants $30 an hour. Yes. WOW. I'll probably go tomorrow again, or Saturday evening.

I'm also going to pull the 3 PMAGs apart when I'm home today and closely look at the followers, and tube interiors; perhaps there's some flashing or production artifact in the top of those tubes.

@Scoutbob I will probably run some Glock mags. I'm probably going to invest 4 more boxes of that ammo as well as a lot of FMJ, as I would like to carry this one day. This is going to be my primary shooter unless it craps the bed, as I myself and many others are interested. It's kind of gotten me reinvigorated to really push a gun. I haven't focused 300 rounds on one handgun on one session in years. It was kinda fun to see if it can survive it.

I like Ruger a lot, and they've had their mis-steps and straight up read the market wrong more than once. They're a solid American company, and I think they can make a come back. Am I wrong? Time will tell. No more Ruger American Pistol type crap and that's an easy step in the right direction. :ROFLMAO:

On the post cleaning note, no abnormal or excessive wear was noticed. The barrel did get some Gen 5 Glock like barrel wear😅, but it had almost no lube on it, aside of whatever thin film of that white stuff they put on it from factory, but it wasn't much. I can't believe I forgot to even lube the barrel, shame on me, but I don't mind it getting barrel wear. Just can't believe I didn't add a drop of oil to the barrel. :ROFLMAO:
 
#166 ·
I was thinking poppycock when I read your comment but there may be some validity there. If the FCU flexes, the gun could conceivably discharge. Not sure how much pressure would be required but I can see how they could be a concern. This FCU looks pretty stout but time will tell.
The FCU is surrounded by metal, whereas the Glock is only support by polymer. If one was going to flex, I would think it would be the Glock, not the Ruger.
Not only that, John, but it's also got the time tested and bombproof Glock firing pin block. Unless the trigger is pulled, this gun can not go off. The P320 does not have that same firing pin block design, so it can not stand to the same standard of safety, regardless of your beliefs on the P320 debacle.
 
#168 ·
... as Sig demonstrated, the safeness of the serialized trigger group is dubious.
I would argue that the idea of the FCU being the problem is dubious.

Whatever may or may not be going wrong with the P320, it isn't inherent to the concept of an FCU.

SIG's own P365 is having no problems with FCUs. Other manufacturers are using the concept too and I'm unaware of any such issues, including HK with their new CC9. If the concept was flawed, I think HK would have discovered it in the 7-8 years of testing that they just completed and would have abandoned the concept, I suspect.


Also, it completely ignores lefties.
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Granted, that is true.

But, welcome to life on planet Earth. That's the norm and most of us just adapt.

Yes, 1911s & ARs can be modified for ambi safeties and an increasing number of guns have some ambi controls but it's essentially a gen 3 clone. Those weren't ambi guns.

Personally, I don't even use most ambi features. I just learn to use the standard configuration so my habits aren't limited to certain models or my own custom guns.

I've never reversed a mag release button on pistols that accommodate doing so and I actually cut off the ambi slide stop on my G26.5 because it just gets in my way.

YMMV
 
#176 ·
Surprising. To the best you can determine, and I tend to agree, it's a design issue not debris or faulty parts causing the problems with HP's on the last round. I wonder why Magpul didn't copy the Glock follower? It would be hard to believe Ruger didn't test them with with HP's?

Don't get me wrong, I own my fair share of Ruger firearms and I do like them quite a bit. The features of the RXM make it something to be desired for sure but there are times you just have to wonder "what the bleep?".
 
#189 · (Edited)
I wonder why Magpul didn't copy the Glock follower? It would be hard to believe Ruger didn't test them with with HP's?

Don't get me wrong, I own my fair share of Ruger firearms and I do like them quite a bit. The features of the RXM make it something to be desired for sure but there are times you just have to wonder "what the bleep?".
As PilatusTurbo noted, I suspect they did do rigourous testing with many different rounds... but perhaps not HIS round!

Many of the Glock followers came about because police department had specific ammo that did not feed well with a given follower type, there was communication, and Glock came up with something that worked better. Hollow point ammo is not all shaped the same, and there are lots of quirks, tricks, and tweaks that causes them to feed (or NOT feed!) differently depending upon the gun and follower.

My guess is this is just a type that a subsequent follower will fix. This happens from Glock's first release to the eventually reliable release frequently, and I am not going to hold Ruger to a higher standard when Glock has often faltered at the same point in time!

Perhaps in the next three months we are showing photos of early followers and "new" followers, and trying to figure out how to tell them apart (just like the games we play with Glock!).
 
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#181 ·
And I presume that Glock followers won't work reliably in a PMAG.
I could tinker with one in a bit and see if it's even feasible, yeah. :)

Surprising. To the best you can determine, and I tend to agree, it's a design issue not debris or faulty parts causing the problems with HP's on the last round. I wonder why Magpul didn't copy the Glock follower? It would be hard to believe Ruger didn't test them with with HP's?

Don't get me wrong, I own my fair share of Ruger firearms and I do like them quite a bit. The features of the RXM make it something to be desired for sure but there are times you just have to wonder "what the bleep?".
I don't think gun companies can (or in many cases even do) test so many different round types. Pretty much every review I see on any given gun mostly focuses on ball ammo, and occasionally they'll run a mag of JHP or something. However, I think it's a critical aspect, unless the gun in question is totally gonna be a range toy for whoever is purchasing and owning it. My biggest WTF is why Magpul didn't just clone the follower, too. It's literally so apparent that it's not the same, and it's not ramped up as aggressively in the front of the follower like Glock's is, and that's what contributes to nose down feed ramp jams.

I have run hollow points (gold dot and HSTs) with pmags through my G19, G26 and G34. No issues there.
Do you have a rough idea as to how much? Just a mag or two, or several boxes? Just a general ballpark idea is what I'm after for data points. I've never even used PMAGs in a Glock, but I figured these came with it, and are intended for it, so let's run them.

That's a fallacy.



That's a fact.
Yeah, people are getting too twisted on the FCU being unsafe. Even if it was an inherently unsafe idea, I'm pretty certain Ruger copied Glock's 3 internal safeties. The gun simply can't go off unless the trigger bar moves rearward and upward, depressing the firing pin block plunger. Twist away, it's not going off even if the FCU somehow failed. The RXM also has the partially cocked striker... As it's one of the 3 Glock safeties. Unless I'm wrong and mis-remembering, but I though that was one of their 3 internal safety mechanisms.

I just bought a bunch of brand new Glock mags from Botach for $17 each. Good deal.

At this point, the Magpul mags arnt even range mags in my opinion. I just leave them in the boxes and never ever use them. All OEM mags for me.
I'm quickly getting there. I took the two 19 round FDE mags that came with the 19X and those became Ruger PC Carbine mags, where I have a few of the PMAG 20 rounders for it. I'll probably just run those and maybe buy a Glock stick. No, I don't own any Glock 33 rounders LOL
 
#182 ·
Do you have a rough idea as to how much? Just a mag or two, or several boxes? Just a general ballpark idea is what I'm after for data points. I've never even used PMAGs in a Glock, but I figured these came with it, and are intended for it, so let's run them.
At least 1000 rounds between them. Old issued duty rounds getting cycled out
 
#186 ·
Yes, those are two reasons I was actually kinda looking forward to using them. Much easier maintenance and the big wonky baseplate kinda works on this gun, and it's easier to manipulate, as you said.

In regards to never having problems, how much JHP defensive ammo are you talking about? They can run ball ammo all day, and if this was only ever going to be a range gun, I wouldn't care. The RXM ran ball ammo 100% flawlessly with the PMAGs, in my case. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of that minor reliability burp that increasingly seems to be mag related. All signs point to PMAGs having a deficient follower; online there are tons of reports of PMAGs just sucking. Of course, that's online, and we have to sift through that "information" which is 80% BS and 20% useful. Reddit is an incredible resource for information once you learn to, as I said, sift through the garbage to find the useful bits of info.
 
#192 ·
2nd Range Rep: Total success. 100% function. Same test, plus a little. No target pics, just a couple cool pics of the RXM next to the new Gen 5 mags, that have made this gun into what it can be and will be. They look good on it, too. To break the brand new mags in, I used my Uplula to press the follower down 5 times before loading the first round, and pressed it up and down 5 times in between every round loaded. This was just the first time loading them, I did not do this every time I reloaded the mags. This does help accelerate break in, simulating over 100 small cycles on the mag springs.

I ran those three Gen 5 G19 mags loaded with the Magtech 115 gr JHP, and for good measure, brought a Gen 4 mag, and loaded it up. First 4 mags for 61 rounds JHP, zero malfunctions, smooth as my 19 Gen 3. Beautiful. Ran 200 more rounds of the S&B 115 gr FMJ, and gave it some cool downs between each 100, again. This test was faster, so it was getting hot, and I ultimately ran the last cycle much sooner.
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Finally, loaded up 4 more mags, the three Gen 5 mags, and the Gen 4 mag, for another 61 rounds of that JHP. Perfect, 100% function. Smooth as a Glock made sewing machine... That kicks like a 9mm.... :ROFLMAO: Well, 9mm kicks/feels like a pellet gun according to @40/45 :ROFLMAO: This whole test was conducted in under 40 minutes, too. So, again, I'll be cleaning it tonight and looking for anything abnormal, but my confidence has soared to Full, and the gun is performing as expected. I hate to say it, but I'm absolutely confident that the issue wasn't even break in, but just magazine issues. Sorry to the PMAG guys, but this issue has been eliminated.

I brought the 19 Gen 3, again, as I'm carrying it due to the Winter Carry thread. I decided I'd carry a big gun, again LOL I did run one mag through the 19.3, for one more comparison, but... The RXM is also just a pleasure to shoot. It has my vote.
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The Ruger RXM. This thing is awesome. :)

This has been a lot of fun, and has inspired me to get out and really run a gun. Not that I'm bored with what I have, in fact, I'm very grateful. I just think this gun is something pretty cool, and from Ruger. It's got its doubters and haters, and I felt compelled to get on board and run the thing. I have a goal. I'm going to keep this thread alive, and update as we go. Would I recommend it? Yes, just buy some or use some Glock mags for good measure. Next range rep, probably in the near future, will include running a mag or two with JHP with a TLR-1HL hanging off the end of it. Additionally, a member here PM'd and offered to donate some hotter 147 +P for T&E once they're available this spring, so Thank you for that! They know who they are, and I'm looking forward to really putting this thing through its paces.

PS: Brought the SR22 out again, having cleaned the can and the gun. Not riding the slide lock, but the slide lock was just gummed up. I noticed it was very sluggish, which I had not noticed before. A drop or two of CLP into the slide stop at the range, safe downrange direction of course, and worked the slide stop up and down and worked it in. It loosened up, and the SR22 locked back, and ran just over 100 Minimags with only one FTF. I recovered that round, reloaded, and it sent.

Also, brought the monster out... :D I love that rifle. :)
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#194 ·
2nd Range Rep: Total success. 100% function. Same test, plus a little. No target pics, just a couple cool pics of the RXM next to the new Gen 5 mags, that have made this gun into what it can be and will be. They look good on it, too. To break the brand new mags in, I used my Uplula to press the follower down 5 times before loading the first round, and pressed it up and down 5 times in between every round loaded. This was just the first time loading them, I did not do this every time I reloaded the mags. This does help accelerate break in, simulating over 100 small cycles on the mag springs.

I ran those three Gen 5 G19 mags loaded with the Magtech 115 gr JHP, and for good measure, brought a Gen 4 mag, and loaded it up. First 4 mags for 61 rounds JHP, zero malfunctions, smooth as my 19 Gen 3. Beautiful. Ran 200 more rounds of the S&B 115 gr FMJ, and gave it some cool downs between each 100, again. This test was faster, so it was getting hot, and I ultimately ran the last cycle much sooner.
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Finally, loaded up 4 more mags, the three Gen 5 mags, and the Gen 4 mag, for another 61 rounds of that JHP. Perfect, 100% function. Smooth as a Glock made sewing machine... That kicks like a 9mm.... :ROFLMAO: Well, 9mm kicks/feels like a pellet gun according to @40/45 :ROFLMAO: This whole test was conducted in under 40 minutes, too. So, again, I'll be cleaning it tonight and looking for anything abnormal, but my confidence has soared to Full, and the gun is performing as expected. I hate to say it, but I'm absolutely confident that the issue wasn't even break in, but just magazine issues. Sorry to the PMAG guys, but this issue has been eliminated.

I brought the 19 Gen 3, again, as I'm carrying it due to the Winter Carry thread. I decided I'd carry a big gun, again LOL I did run one mag through the 19.3, for one more comparison, but... The RXM is also just a pleasure to shoot. It has my vote.
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The Ruger RXM. This thing is awesome. :)

This has been a lot of fun, and has inspired me to get out and really run a gun. Not that I'm bored with what I have, in fact, I'm very grateful. I just think this gun is something pretty cool, and from Ruger. It's got its doubters and haters, and I felt compelled to get on board and run the thing. I have a goal. I'm going to keep this thread alive, and update as we go. Would I recommend it? Yes, just buy some or use some Glock mags for good measure. Next range rep, probably in the near future, will include running a mag or two with JHP with a TLR-1HL hanging off the end of it. Additionally, a member here PM'd and offered to donate some hotter 147 +P for T&E once they're available this spring, so Thank you for that! They know who they are, and I'm looking forward to really putting this thing through its paces.

PS: Brought the SR22 out again, having cleaned the can and the gun. Not riding the slide lock, but the slide lock was just gummed up. I noticed it was very sluggish, which I had not noticed before. A drop or two of CLP into the slide stop at the range, safe downrange direction of course, and worked the slide stop up and down and worked it in. It loosened up, and the SR22 locked back, and ran just over 100 Minimags with only one FTF. I recovered that round, reloaded, and it sent.

Also, brought the monster out... :D I love that rifle. :)
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You had to drag me in. I complemented your first write up and I will compliment you on this one. Me and my buddy are picking his up and shooting it on Thursday. I’m sure that my write up will be no where near as brain numbingly long as PT’s 🤪
As I have already told you, if I didn’t live in CT or any capacity restricted state I would be interested in this gun. The Ruger only excepts Gen5 Glock mags?