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Taurus PT111 Millineuim G2 9mm

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#1 ·
got one of the for xmas from brother in law seems like a nice gun. anybody have any experiences with one of these ??? Any info appreciated
 
#2 ·
First of all, that's a dang nice gift. :cheers:

I have one that is fairly new with 150 rounds of American Eagle FMJ and Gold Dot 124 through it. 100% reliable. I love the gun. Its just the right size for carry - small enough to conceal easily and big enough to shoot with a full grip like a real gun. The first shot has a long, light pull followed by a nice break, and subsequent shots are short and crisp. Very nice trigger IMO, which you get used to very quickly. Adjustable 3 dot sights (hello Glock). Double strike capability, which is rare on a plastic striker gun. Bargain price. I don't care for the thumb safety, but it is small and stiff (that's what she said) so you can just ignore it. I rate it highly.

Earlier guns had their issues. But reviews over the past few years are very high. So watch the dates of online reviews and recognize that later guns are super reliable. Now go get yourself an Alien Gear Cloak Slide holster for $43 shipped.

This gun is Powernoodle Approved.
 
#9 ·
I have one. I picked it up as a curiosity piece when my wife got her Glock 42. I thought it was a good looking gun and felt nice in the hand. I wasn't really expecting much, considering what I paid, but I have to say, it's a nice little gun. I've run all sorts of aluminum and brass cased ammo from 115 gr. to 147 gr. with no issues.
 
#10 ·
Taurus will always be rated as a low end gun manufacturer, but most of the PT line seems pretty solid. I had a PT945, I wished I still had it. I heard mostly positive reviews of the PT111.
 
#12 ·
I have one, maybe 50 rounds, it is kept in the desk drawer at the truck shop. All the guys know it is there, why and have used it. Purpose? We back up to a river, the other side is Shenandoah National Park, we get frequent black bear visitors!!! No one shoots the bears, obviously with a 9 MM but shoot up river or at the dumpster to send them on their way. Biggest problem is in the spring, on the hunt for a good meal. Most of the time we step out back and watch them playing in the river.
 
#19 ·
I had a bad experience with one. Less than 100 rounds and it broke. It would chamber the first round and upon firing the mag would fall out. Sent it back for repair then immediately sold it when I got it back. Just couldn’t ever trust it.
 
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#14 ·
The G2 was the hottest selling gun in the country for a while, and still has strong sales. Taurus started selling them below price point to flood the market rather than spend a lot on advertising. They've been successful in this endeavor. The quality of the G2 has continued to improve over the years. If you do a search in this section you'll see a very long running thread that I authored on the G2. Everyone in the thread that owns or shot one gave it a thumbs up. An armorer discusses his findings in several posts and he owns one. There is negative Taurus bias in that thread, but not from those that actually have firsthand experience with the G2. Negative Taurus bias isn't necessarily unfair, but one has to be careful to understand that Taurus has had a plethora of owners over the years and QC was up and down. These last several years they are under new management and their products, particularly the G2 and 709 have a good rep from owners. It is a solid gun that now has folks with over 10k+ rounds fired through them.

Enjoy.
 
#26 ·
Same here, but even a blind chicken finds the occasional kernel of corn.

They did it once, with their version of the Beretta 92 compact, know two guys whom swear by theirs. Both of them own 30 other handguns, covering the gamut from Glocks to Kimbers, and could carry anything they chose.

What they choose, is the Taurus. One has admitted, it is the best gun he would carry and not have remorse, if it sat in an evidence locker long past the time he died of natural causes.
 
#23 ·
I mentioned in the other G2 thread that over the last nearly 30 years I've owned quite a few Taurus revolvers and pistols. The first gun I ever personally owned was a Taurus 669VR (.357 mag) and my first pistol was a PT908 (9mm). I'm guessing that I've had at/near/over a dozen Taurus guns over the years. I only had a problem with one, a model 66 7-shot that developed a very hard trigger pull. Figure every brand has occasional issues and it wasn't that major of an issue.

My wife has a PT709 as her CCW. It has 500+ rounds through it now and never an issue.

Is a Taurus an HK that will get 91K rounds through the barrel. Doubt even the most diehard Taurus fan would say yes. But the G2 is now well north of 10K rounds for some folks, perhaps around 20K (I'd have to check over on the Taurus forum). A person could go to the range once a month and put a couple of boxes down range for the next 10 years to get around 10K rounds through a gun, any gun. So lets say the G2 falls apart in your hand upon hitting the 10K mark. Well, send it back and they either fix it or send you a new one. That's a hard deal to beat.

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#24 ·
One of our daughters bought a PT111G2 right after they came out .. My deal is will run the first 400 rounds thru new handguns to just to be sure its reliable and by the time I was done with the G2 it was a good little pistol I like better than m&p9c . With a better trigger and lockup it also groups rounds better .

MAGS - It will use Sig P226 mags so a high capcity back up mags is easy to find . Safety ?? Don't use it , not needed . I betting that pistols well past 5000 rounds do to the reloads I made for it and being her only 9mm ! .
 
#28 ·
Some comments in the other G2 thread from the armorer mentioned (three posts combined):

Gentlemen, if I might? I have real world experience with the Taurus PT111 G2, I have owned 3 of them. I first noticed the pistol in an Academy Sports store about 3 years ago. I was intrigued by how it looked and asked to see it up close. My observations were as follows: It felt great in the hand and the pistol had a decent heft. Trigger pull was interesting and not unlike a Springfield XD. The G2 had a right side thumb safety that worked well and was small enough to ignore if you wanted to. It was a great size, about the same size as a S&W Shield, albeit about 1/8" thicker. The extractor, striker arse'y, and striker lock were engineering copies of Walther, and Glock. And the barrel and recoil spring arse'y were of Glock copy, as well. Inspection of the lower showed a lot of XD lineage. Mag relase is reversible, like a Glock Gen4 pistol. Dis-assembly is straight Glock copy. The only thing about the pistol I did not like was what I call "Build Quality", as in roughness of assembled parts, Quality of parts, etc. It was good enough to work, but it could have been better But overall, I was very impressed, even though it was a Taurus. I ended up buying it.
Now understand, I am a Gunsmith and have been one for years. I have owned just about any pistol you care to name. If I haven't owned it, I have played w/ it enough to know it. I am currently the Firearms instructor for my Marshals Office, and the Armorer as well. I am an advanced Armorer on just about any service pistol brand you care to name, except for Ruger. I have been competitively shooting handguns since I was 18, and that's been a while back. In short, I know handguns very well. I carry a Glock 23 Gen4 everyday, and shoot very high scores with it. I own 8 different Glocks, among other pistols, too.

I consider the Taurus PT111 G2 9mm pistol an absolutely great carry pistol, and most of the blogs online agree. Taurus has a very well engineered, well made pistol here, and after buying #3, the build quality was way up. As in very well made. Castings were good, springs were made correctly and no rust. Machining was very well done w/ virtually no excess marks, rifling in barrel crisp w/ no hollow spots. Pistol was just well built all over. In comparison to my 1st PT 111 G2, I would estimate 100% improvement. And the little things just work, and work well. I have had zero problems with the 3 that I have owned. And I run my pistols hard, too. If they are going to fail, I want to know about it, so I push them hard to find out. The PT 111 G2 holds up to that standard of a duty gun.

I am more than familiar w/ Taurus and their reputation. Taurus firearms are very common around these parts, and I have fixed more than my share for friends and Officers. That's why I was pleasantly surprised about the PT 111 G2. Some engineer did their homework, and this pistol is a winner. As far as Taurus QC? In the last year alone, I have seen leaps and bounds in the quality of new Taurus pistols and I hope they keep up the good work.
As far as 3 PT 111 G2's for me? Well, #1 was sold to a friend when he had to have it. #2 was the FDE version from Academy and again, another friend went crazy for it, and after not finding another one anywhere, got me to sell it to him. That's OK, as I wanted a stainless slide, and that is #3. I really like my little "Pocket Rocket" and it sits right next to my Glock 19 Gen2 NYPD(I think!) surplus pistol when it's not on my hip.
Go get one, you will not be disappointed.
Sorry for the long post. Thanx All.

Interesting back and forth on Taurus, to be sure. And some of it I agree with, and some of it I do not. Taurus has a poor reputation for QC, and rightly so. Until recently, that is. Taurus was purchased by CBC(Brazilian Cartridge Company), and CBC stood up and rebuilt the Taurus brand, lock, stock and barrel. Somewhere I either saw a video, or read a very good article on just this fact(Anybody know where that might be? I have looked for it w/o any luck). CBC was intent on turning around a shoddy Gun manufacturer and by everything I have seen or heard, did just that. New Plant in Sao Paulo, all new CAD machines, Canned do nothing, expensive Executives, hired American firearms engineers, completely redid their manufacturing and QC process, dropped many models out of the catalog, and dropped prices to get attention on the American market.

Case in point: I have been a Pistolsmith/Armorer for many, many years. Most of what I do is minor tuning for correct function, and/or repair back to factory standards. I do no "custom" work due to the liabilities involved. I have worked on my share of screwed up Tauri. Early Tauri pistols looked and acted like the were fitted and assembled by monkeys with heavy files. Most worked, but the attention to detail was terrible. I was always very disappointed in the poor QC. I told friends to stay away from Tauri regardless of what they bought. That changed about 3 years ago when CBC took control.

So anyhow, back to my case in point. Recently I decided I needed another 5 shot snubby and went looking. Understand that I am also a S&W trained revolver Armorer, and having been in Law Enforcement long enough to have carried a S&W model 19 on my hip as a Duty Weapon. So anyhow, I am out looking for a snubby, and not being real happy w/ S&W's current offers(the S&W 637,638,642 etc, models are almost all MIM construction, w/ even the Barrels being MIM'ed. WT*!), I decided to just look at a new Taurus 85 stainless. I just wanted to look with the full intention of disregarding it. Boy, was I surprised! Everything about the new 85 was spot on from the factory. The timing lock-up was correct w/ bolt release being spot on. Cylinder gap was about .004-.006 which is just right and no deep file cuts on the barrel base. Very minimal end shake in the cylinder while in battery(a revolver must have some end shake for heat expansion clearance). Correct fit of crane to frame, cylinder ejection rod not bent or out of line, barrel fit to frame correctly lined up and right where it's supposed to be, frame machining cuts all smooth and lined up correctly, ejector star on cylinder properly fitted and smooth extraction, cylinder charges holes straight and polished well, chamber step for bullets size all done concentrically and polished correctly, no buggered up sideplate screws, hammer properly lined up in frame, trigger pull smooth and not stagey. I was very impressed! Impressed enough to buy the thing and take it home to open it up and check the lockwork fit inside. Got home and took it apart. I was pleasantly surprised when I got my 85 open. While Taurus has used some MIM parts(trigger, rebound spring bow, bolt, etc. Way of the world now, I am afraid), everything was fitted well, with very few file marks, if any. Timing of interfitted parts was just right. All I did was a light polish on the cylinder bolt, lube up the lockwork and put it together(I did bob the hammer, as that's what I like in a hammer snubby). Took it to the range and it shot right to the sights at 15 yards. Cleaned it after, stoked it with Federal 124 gr Hydra Shok .38 special +P cartridges, dropped it into a DeSantis pocket holster, and it is my lite EDC around the house and yard. My one gripe about the gun is this; while I like the new softer boot grips that Taurus puts on their 85's, they pin them on thru the lower part of the grip frame w/ a roll pin. It works, and is bulletproof in the field, but it's a bit of a pain to get out. Then again, I have no real reason to remove the grips and open up the action anytime soon.
All this to Illustrate I do believe Taurus has turned a corner and is doing really well with what pistols they now catalog. Yes, they are cheap, yes, they have been junk in the past. Now, after my experience with the G2 and the new 85's, I have changed my mind about Taurus pistols. Let's hope they can hold this new, better gun course. CBC has said they will build no problem pistols, and I think they have done it.
Also a thread on the G2 with various videos:

http://sepboard.us/showthread.php?tid=540&page=2&highlight=taurus+PT111+G2
 
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I am not a Tauras fan but bought one for the wife, she didnt like the long pull on the first pull. However, have to give credit where it is do, 12+1 in a small package and though I only put about 850 rounds through it, it never malfuntioned.
 
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Overall its a solid gun, nice shooter, never had a jam with one I picked up for a truck gun a spell back. Mags are a little pricey compared to the cost of the gun but are well made.

3 problems, 2 of which are easy to fix:
1. Recoil spring is a captive unit that can fail. Don't have the link but there is an aftermarket unit that is stout as heck.
2. Sights - not many aftermarket sights out there. I went with the Advantage Tactical sights, like them a lot, really make the gun come alive.
3. And now the one that's not easy to fix - Taurus' parts policy. I had a lousy trigger spring (maybe a one or two dollar part at most) puke out so until I get around to fabricating a replacement spring, mine is a paperweight. Called Taurus and their customer service guy told me to pound sand on selling me a new spring. Not worth a next-day-air mailing fee to fix something I can do when I get around to it.

So, great gun but lousy parts policy.

Grumpy
 
#33 ·
Great gun as far as I'm concerned.
I've had mine a few months now and bought it used for $100 .
I'm about to go to the range again and will put it through it's paces again.
I love this little gun.
Can't best it for the price and it has never had any failure at all.
Enjoy your great Christmas gift in good health.
 
#34 ·
Took my wife to the LGS to get her a carry pistol. Showed her all kinds of nice guns. I gave her a $600 budget. The G43 was not out yet. Her pick......The Taurus PT 111 G2. She loves it and shoots it pretty good. I think it has the worst trigger of any pistol made; but then again my EDC is a Sig P938 with a CT laser so I'm a kind of snobbish I guess.
 
#36 ·
I think it has the worst trigger of any pistol made
Good and ill are very subjective. I think the PT111 has a very good trigger. First shot has a loooong but light takeup followed by a typical striker gun break. Resets for the second and subsequent bangs are very short, and it has a second strike capability for reluctant primers. So really, its that loooong takeup on the first shot that takes some getting used to. Does that make it a bad trigger? In my view, not at all. But to each his own. You are right that its nothing like the P938.

When I go back and forth between the PT111 and another gun, that loooong takeup is definitely a shock to the system. But after about 3 bangs I'm used to it again.