got one of the for xmas from brother in law seems like a nice gun. anybody have any experiences with one of these ??? Any info appreciated
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What does that mean ? Bad news ?Good luck.
Good to know it liked the HST, that's my carry ammo in 9mmI have about 100 rds thru mine and it's been fine no issues, fed 147gr HST's no problem.
Also a thread on the G2 with various videos:Gentlemen, if I might? I have real world experience with the Taurus PT111 G2, I have owned 3 of them. I first noticed the pistol in an Academy Sports store about 3 years ago. I was intrigued by how it looked and asked to see it up close. My observations were as follows: It felt great in the hand and the pistol had a decent heft. Trigger pull was interesting and not unlike a Springfield XD. The G2 had a right side thumb safety that worked well and was small enough to ignore if you wanted to. It was a great size, about the same size as a S&W Shield, albeit about 1/8" thicker. The extractor, striker arse'y, and striker lock were engineering copies of Walther, and Glock. And the barrel and recoil spring arse'y were of Glock copy, as well. Inspection of the lower showed a lot of XD lineage. Mag relase is reversible, like a Glock Gen4 pistol. Dis-assembly is straight Glock copy. The only thing about the pistol I did not like was what I call "Build Quality", as in roughness of assembled parts, Quality of parts, etc. It was good enough to work, but it could have been better But overall, I was very impressed, even though it was a Taurus. I ended up buying it.
Now understand, I am a Gunsmith and have been one for years. I have owned just about any pistol you care to name. If I haven't owned it, I have played w/ it enough to know it. I am currently the Firearms instructor for my Marshals Office, and the Armorer as well. I am an advanced Armorer on just about any service pistol brand you care to name, except for Ruger. I have been competitively shooting handguns since I was 18, and that's been a while back. In short, I know handguns very well. I carry a Glock 23 Gen4 everyday, and shoot very high scores with it. I own 8 different Glocks, among other pistols, too.
I consider the Taurus PT111 G2 9mm pistol an absolutely great carry pistol, and most of the blogs online agree. Taurus has a very well engineered, well made pistol here, and after buying #3, the build quality was way up. As in very well made. Castings were good, springs were made correctly and no rust. Machining was very well done w/ virtually no excess marks, rifling in barrel crisp w/ no hollow spots. Pistol was just well built all over. In comparison to my 1st PT 111 G2, I would estimate 100% improvement. And the little things just work, and work well. I have had zero problems with the 3 that I have owned. And I run my pistols hard, too. If they are going to fail, I want to know about it, so I push them hard to find out. The PT 111 G2 holds up to that standard of a duty gun.
I am more than familiar w/ Taurus and their reputation. Taurus firearms are very common around these parts, and I have fixed more than my share for friends and Officers. That's why I was pleasantly surprised about the PT 111 G2. Some engineer did their homework, and this pistol is a winner. As far as Taurus QC? In the last year alone, I have seen leaps and bounds in the quality of new Taurus pistols and I hope they keep up the good work.
As far as 3 PT 111 G2's for me? Well, #1 was sold to a friend when he had to have it. #2 was the FDE version from Academy and again, another friend went crazy for it, and after not finding another one anywhere, got me to sell it to him. That's OK, as I wanted a stainless slide, and that is #3. I really like my little "Pocket Rocket" and it sits right next to my Glock 19 Gen2 NYPD(I think!) surplus pistol when it's not on my hip.
Go get one, you will not be disappointed.
Sorry for the long post. Thanx All.
Interesting back and forth on Taurus, to be sure. And some of it I agree with, and some of it I do not. Taurus has a poor reputation for QC, and rightly so. Until recently, that is. Taurus was purchased by CBC(Brazilian Cartridge Company), and CBC stood up and rebuilt the Taurus brand, lock, stock and barrel. Somewhere I either saw a video, or read a very good article on just this fact(Anybody know where that might be? I have looked for it w/o any luck). CBC was intent on turning around a shoddy Gun manufacturer and by everything I have seen or heard, did just that. New Plant in Sao Paulo, all new CAD machines, Canned do nothing, expensive Executives, hired American firearms engineers, completely redid their manufacturing and QC process, dropped many models out of the catalog, and dropped prices to get attention on the American market.
Case in point: I have been a Pistolsmith/Armorer for many, many years. Most of what I do is minor tuning for correct function, and/or repair back to factory standards. I do no "custom" work due to the liabilities involved. I have worked on my share of screwed up Tauri. Early Tauri pistols looked and acted like the were fitted and assembled by monkeys with heavy files. Most worked, but the attention to detail was terrible. I was always very disappointed in the poor QC. I told friends to stay away from Tauri regardless of what they bought. That changed about 3 years ago when CBC took control.
So anyhow, back to my case in point. Recently I decided I needed another 5 shot snubby and went looking. Understand that I am also a S&W trained revolver Armorer, and having been in Law Enforcement long enough to have carried a S&W model 19 on my hip as a Duty Weapon. So anyhow, I am out looking for a snubby, and not being real happy w/ S&W's current offers(the S&W 637,638,642 etc, models are almost all MIM construction, w/ even the Barrels being MIM'ed. WT*!), I decided to just look at a new Taurus 85 stainless. I just wanted to look with the full intention of disregarding it. Boy, was I surprised! Everything about the new 85 was spot on from the factory. The timing lock-up was correct w/ bolt release being spot on. Cylinder gap was about .004-.006 which is just right and no deep file cuts on the barrel base. Very minimal end shake in the cylinder while in battery(a revolver must have some end shake for heat expansion clearance). Correct fit of crane to frame, cylinder ejection rod not bent or out of line, barrel fit to frame correctly lined up and right where it's supposed to be, frame machining cuts all smooth and lined up correctly, ejector star on cylinder properly fitted and smooth extraction, cylinder charges holes straight and polished well, chamber step for bullets size all done concentrically and polished correctly, no buggered up sideplate screws, hammer properly lined up in frame, trigger pull smooth and not stagey. I was very impressed! Impressed enough to buy the thing and take it home to open it up and check the lockwork fit inside. Got home and took it apart. I was pleasantly surprised when I got my 85 open. While Taurus has used some MIM parts(trigger, rebound spring bow, bolt, etc. Way of the world now, I am afraid), everything was fitted well, with very few file marks, if any. Timing of interfitted parts was just right. All I did was a light polish on the cylinder bolt, lube up the lockwork and put it together(I did bob the hammer, as that's what I like in a hammer snubby). Took it to the range and it shot right to the sights at 15 yards. Cleaned it after, stoked it with Federal 124 gr Hydra Shok .38 special +P cartridges, dropped it into a DeSantis pocket holster, and it is my lite EDC around the house and yard. My one gripe about the gun is this; while I like the new softer boot grips that Taurus puts on their 85's, they pin them on thru the lower part of the grip frame w/ a roll pin. It works, and is bulletproof in the field, but it's a bit of a pain to get out. Then again, I have no real reason to remove the grips and open up the action anytime soon.
All this to Illustrate I do believe Taurus has turned a corner and is doing really well with what pistols they now catalog. Yes, they are cheap, yes, they have been junk in the past. Now, after my experience with the G2 and the new 85's, I have changed my mind about Taurus pistols. Let's hope they can hold this new, better gun course. CBC has said they will build no problem pistols, and I think they have done it.
Good to know makes a good truck 9mmI am not a Taurs fan but bought one for the wife, she didnt like the long pull on the first pull. However, have to give credit where it is do, 12+1 in a small package and though I only put about 850 rounds through it, it never malfuntioned.
Good and ill are very subjective. I think the PT111 has a very good trigger. First shot has a loooong but light takeup followed by a typical striker gun break. Resets for the second and subsequent bangs are very short, and it has a second strike capability for reluctant primers. So really, its that loooong takeup on the first shot that takes some getting used to. Does that make it a bad trigger? In my view, not at all. But to each his own. You are right that its nothing like the P938.I think it has the worst trigger of any pistol made