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Suppressors on baby Glocks

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#1 ·
I have a Gen 4 Glock 26 and expect to purchase a similar Glock in the near future ... either another 26 or a G27. If I wind up with a G27, I'd like a conversion barrel for shooting 9mm ammunition and I see that Lone Wolf makes 40-9 threaded conversion barrel for about $125 + $15 for a screw-on protector of those threads.

Does anyone have experience with suppressors on baby Glocks? On occasion we have rabid skunks wandering near our Minnesota cabin and also the stray beaver damming up the creek behind our place ... both need dispatching and a suppressor could be just the answer.

Do the guns still function OK with them screwed on? Is it mandatory to use a subsonic load, like 147 grain? Does it make any difference in the perceived report if using a hollow point or ball ammo?

Thanks for the advice.
 
#35 ·
Okay, I just wanted to make sure there. I think a little bit of research will show it is not a problem (one person saying it is bad is not necessarily a great pool of research) but no reason to do something you think makes you uncomfortable. I hunt call/hunt coyotes with my MP5 with a SWR trident and always run hollow points there and will continue to do so as it is a more effective round, but if you don't have a specific need to do it, no reason at all to. I hate to see you eliminate a more effective round if your hunting with the firearm, but again, if your just punching paper and coke cans, no reason to worry about it.

Did he happen to specifically state what "he thought" the problem would be? The reason people say "no hollowpoints" with a gun with "wipes" is that it will tear up the wipes, but it poses no physical danger to the can itself, just the wipes, there is a chance he was confused on that or did not explain that correctly.

Silencertalk has covered this extensively with many manufacturers chiming in on this very subject (you will note, when manufacturers post their "numbers" that many times a selection from the variety of the ammo they are using will be hollowpoint rounds)

Thanks for clearing up your position and your views on this, I appreciate it.
good post. Thanks
 
#34 · (Edited)
Okay, I just wanted to make sure there. I think a little bit of research will show it is not a problem (one person saying it is bad is not necessarily a great pool of research) but no reason to do something you think makes you uncomfortable. I hunt call/hunt coyotes with my MP5 with a SWR trident and always run hollow points there and will continue to do so as it is a more effective round, but if you don't have a specific need to do it, no reason at all to. I hate to see you eliminate a more effective round if your hunting with the firearm, but again, if your just punching paper and coke cans, no reason to worry about it.

Did he happen to specifically state what "he thought" the problem would be? The reason people say "no hollowpoints" with a gun with "wipes" is that it will tear up the wipes, but it poses no physical danger to the can itself, just the wipes, there is a chance he was confused on that or did not explain that correctly.

Silencertalk has covered this extensively with many manufacturers chiming in on this very subject (you will note, when manufacturers post their "numbers" that many times a selection from the variety of the ammo they are using will be hollowpoint rounds)

Thanks for clearing up your position and your views on this, I appreciate it.
 
#33 ·
So wait a minute here. Maybe I wasn't following this correctly. I assumed you meant don't use a hollowpoint if your running wet. Now from what you wrote, you are saying you don't use ANY hollowpoints WET OR DRY? There is absolutely no reason not to use a hollowpoint in a dry can, wipes included. Wet I can see a "maybe", but dry, no reason whatsoever, hollowpoints don't expand in the air at all.

Maybe I am reading this wrong.
I was told not to by a friend who introduced me to suppressors. Like I said this could be wrong. I’ve been looking into it and it seems that a lot of people run hollow points. With out issues. It’s up to you. But for me I prefer not to.
 
#30 ·
I have always been told not too. Maybe it’s bs. I read through my suppressors owners manuals and no where does it say you can’t. I figured the ghostm would since it has a wipe. But it doesn’t say anything about hollow points. That being said I think it’s better safe than sorry and I will not be using any hollowpoints in mine.
 
#32 ·
So wait a minute here. Maybe I wasn't following this correctly. I assumed you meant don't use a hollowpoint if your running wet. Now from what you wrote, you are saying you don't use ANY hollowpoints WET OR DRY? There is absolutely no reason not to use a hollowpoint in a dry can, wipes included. Wet I can see a "maybe", but dry, no reason whatsoever, hollowpoints don't expand in the air at all.

Maybe I am reading this wrong.
 
#29 ·
Well, on this one, ignorance was very bliss. I had never heard to not shoot hollowpoints with a "wet" suppressor. Have sent about 300 through the 19 in this manner, probably 500 through the MK23, and pretty sure a bazillion through the .22 (but bet that doesn't count as that hollow point is pretty much a joke) and have never had a problem.

That being said, the logical part of my brain says "yeah, maybe that isn't a good idea", not sure that there is enough "wet" in the suppressor to make a hollowpoint expand, but don't think I will probably do that anymore.

Probably excessively "safe than sorry", but you just "might" be onto something there.....
 
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I have not ran 147 grain yet in my Canik 9mm. But in the Glock it’s slightly louder than the G42 380.
But you are correct you can’t beat a 22 with a suppressor.

Oh and OP you don’t want to use hollow point with a suppressor. (Some may say yes you can but that’s a fine line. If you use wipes or water. Any type of fluid you down want to use them. I think most suppressor companies say not too. Some one correct me if I’m wrong)

And no you don’t have to shoot subs. But subs make a huge difference in sound suppression.
 

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#24 ·
As a PP suggested, .22 standard velocity or even shorts out of a mechanically operated rifle, if a quiet way to murder critters is all you want.
For the OP, a silencer that is legal in AZ can't even be legally taken home to Minnesota, and the paperwork for that silencer is based on your official residence.
Yeah, the paperwork is a pain (I have some SBRs), but your two residences will make it difficult to do. Just get that Winchester/Rossi pump that will run .22 shorts....
Moon
 
#27 ·
well now that is one of the best examples of someone wanting to demonstrate to the whole internet that they really can't contribute to a conversation and are ignorant of a subject. Awesome job.

To the topic though, they work as well with a compact (used to have one, no longer do)as they do the large size versions. As with all guns when you add them, you "may" have to tweak the recoil spring to get it to reliably run equally well with the suppressor and without the suppressor with all different types of ammo. My 19 took a stronger recoil spring, the 17 runs fine as is. Some guns just like it better than others.

Your absolute best results will come with subsonic ammunition (147).

Some guns though, just have to be suppressed to be what they are intended to be (i.e. the MK23).

I will say, the people who say that a .22 will probably do you better are right as I have killed more critters with the MK2 Ruger than any other pistol, but sometimes ***** get dispatched with the 19 also. A 9mm is "pretty darn quite" with a good suppressor and subsonic, but a .22 is really really quite. But if you want to use the Glock, by all means.
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#16 ·
And...are you doing it just to pop skunks and beavers in your back yard with a Glock subcompact? :cool:

I agree with the sentiment that a full-size pistol would be much more effective and likely function more reliably. Of what value is the reduced size of a pistol when it's attached to a long bulky suppressor stretching out in front? Can one even sight over the typical suppressor with typical G26 sights?

FWIW, Glock in 2015 has introduced four OEM threaded-barrel pistols: The G17TB, G19TB, G23TB, and G21TB. They come with a completely new style of tall fixed sights providing a sighting path that clears the typical suppressor. Oddly...these come only in the older Gen3 version. Details are in the 2015 Glock Autopistols annual, and there is a good picture from yesterday's The Firearm Blog.

I'd be tempted by the G17TB, but not by the compact pistols. I'd want it to be Gen4 as well.
It is for a Glock 17... I wouldn't consider suppressing subcompact models.
 
#14 ·
I have a Gen 4 Glock 26...a suppressor could be just the answer. Do the guns still function OK with them screwed on? Is it mandatory to use a subsonic load, like 147 grain? Does it make any difference in the perceived report if using a hollow point or ball ammo?
Assuming that you live in a state where you are allowed to possess suppressors, you should talk to GemTech. They have a variety of quality suppressors and an OEM-Glock-factory threaded barrel for your G26, in stock.

http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/GLOCK-Factory-Threaded-Barrels-19p1022.htm
 
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#11 · (Edited)
It is indeed an awful lot of trouble. Took me about a week to gather all the information together. No telling how long it will take for the transfer.
And...are you doing it just to pop skunks and beavers in your back yard with a Glock subcompact? :cool:

I agree with the sentiment that a full-size pistol would be much more effective and likely function more reliably. Of what value is the reduced size of a pistol when it's attached to a long bulky suppressor stretching out in front? Can one even sight over the typical suppressor with typical G26 sights?

FWIW, Glock in 2015 has introduced four OEM threaded-barrel pistols: The G17TB, G19TB, G23TB, and G21TB. They come with a completely new style of tall fixed sights providing a sighting path that clears the typical suppressor. Oddly...these come only in the older Gen3 version. Details are in the 2015 Glock Autopistols annual, and there is a good picture from yesterday's The Firearm Blog.

I'd be tempted by the G17TB, but not by the compact pistols. I'd want it to be Gen4 as well.
 
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#10 ·
Thanks for the input. That is especially good to know about MN. Here in AZ, where we send 8-9 months of the year, I don't think there are any issues. I'm also intrigued to hear about the LW 40-9 conversion barrel in a G23 because that is just one of the options I am considering.