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Springfield TPR vs Kimber TLE II

13K views 67 replies 17 participants last post by  kp352g  
#1 · (Edited)
My Chief of Police has authorize us to carry 1911's on duty. The gun has to be approved by the chief or another FA instructor...ie but Star, Liama, or junk.

I'm looking for a new out of the box duty pistol. A rock stock out of the box duty ready gun.

The LGS has a Springfield TRP and Kimber TLE II new in stock. I have looked at both. I like the TPR and know the rep that Springfield has. But I like the feel of the TLE II better. I like the fact that it's the same gun LAPD SWAT it using. (+ Point Kimber) I have heard all the problems Kimber has had.

I'd like to hear your opinion.

Thanks
 
#2 · (Edited)
I'm a huge Kimber fan, especially the TLE series. I've owned 9 Kimbers and still have 7, all of which of been 100% reliable with any and everything I've ran through them. That being said, I've heard of alot more Kimbers having issues more than TRP's or SA in general. And while I've never experienced first hand, either one's customer service, there's alot more postive comments about SA's than Kimber's CS. My TRP has been top notch. Recently, I aquired 2 more TRP's as well (early TRP and a Champion), but have yet to get them to the range, but I have no doubt that they will shine like diamonds. :cool: So, I'd say go with the TRP, especially if it is going to your duty weapon. Good luck and let us know which way you go. :)
 
#10 · (Edited)
Only thing I don't like is the sights but it's a 1911, you can change everything. I'm a big Novak fan.


EDIT: I really wanted a Warrior, They're a series I, but then I'd have to send it out to be checkered and refinished. Didn't wanna deal with that so I bought the Sig.... and not happy with the decision.
 
#15 ·
<--- had TLE II, didn't run... went back to Kimber... still didn't run. Made gun shop buy it back, bought TRP. 10,000 + rounds later I have no complaints with the TRP. Still run it stock in matches (except sights - hate night sights for gun games).
 
#16 ·
<--- had TLE II, didn't run... went back to Kimber... still didn't run. Made gun shop buy it back, bought TRP. 10,000 + rounds later I have no complaints with the TRP. Still run it stock in matches (except sights - hate night sights for gun games).
Hmm, honestly man, Kimbers got a year warrenty, if it don't run tell them about it. I've had 2 of them and I've had great luck with them all. While their custom shop isn't exactly custom those are some nice looking guns as well and I believe they can re-create a SN as long as they destroy the old one. There's no reason you shouldn't have gotten a working gun out of that.
 
#19 ·
yea... i called the custom shop years back to get some custom work done.... that's how i learned they weren't exactly what the name sounded like.
Well, I can speak firsthand that Springfield DEFINATELY has a true custom shop and it turns out some great stuff.

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#22 · (Edited)
Not wanting to start a pissing match by any means, but Colt's custom shop pale's in comparison to SA's by a long shot.
What would make you so sure? I can't see that in any way shape or form. Springfield is better known, they're also better known for losing the 1911 contract to Colt.

Of the two I'd definitely say Colt made a better gun.

EDIT: I can't say you're not entitled to your own opinion, but I couldn't disagree more and I've seen no evidence that would support that. What I have seen is contrary to your opinion. I also believe Colt has the far superior product ot start with. Take a better product into a custom line and you end with a better product.

What it realy comes down too, is it's your money - spend it how you want. I'll spend mine how I want, and we'll both believe we have a better product so we'll both be happy.

EDIT2: I'm not at all saying they're bad guns by any means, infact a Pro Rail is still on my will own list for the collection sake..
 
#23 ·
Like you said...it's your money. I stand by my statement that SACS makes Colt's "custom shop" look like a joke. But, to each his own. I've dealt with both shops and there is ALOT that Colt's can't/won't do, that SACS can/will. Like I said before, I wasn't trying to start a pissing match, but if you want to whip'em out...:upeyes: Not knocking what you're having Colt do for you, but SACS is known for their custom work, where as Colt is clearly NOT.
 
#25 ·
Colt had every option I wanted, wiht no issues. And not every time somebody discusses brands has to be a pissing match does it?

Most people don't even know colt has one, but they certainly outdid springfield for the Marine Corps contract. Maybe you'r right, I'll let know in a few months.

I admittedly don't care much for Springfield products, mainly because I don't feel brazilian manufacturing can compete with American, secondly because one of the two 1911s I've had from them wouldn't cycle a round out of the box.

This would be a mighty boring site if everybody agreed on everything though wouldn't it?

Do I really care at all what you think? As much as you care what I think, not at all, but doesn't mean it can't be discussed.
 
#26 ·
Colt was handed the Marine contract simply because they lost
the M4 contract.

As for Colt's Custom Shop.......it's only slightly better than Kimber's.