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Safariland SLS Hood Guard...Yay or Nay?

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11K views 29 replies 25 participants last post by  k9medic  
#1 ·
Just got a 6360 for my G22/X300 combo and it came with the hood guard. I'm debating leaving it on or removing it. Any added security is nice, but I don't like the fact that it completely fills the gap between my belt and holster body meaning I can't tuck my jacket into the gap like usual. Other than that, so far it doesn't seem to be as obtrusive as I thought it would be.

For you guys running this holster, do you like the hood guard?
 
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#3 ·
Yes. I like it and found that when I removed it the hood would rotate foreward and I was constantly checking it. The hood prevents it and I put it back.
 
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#4 ·
Like I said in another thread, my agency just switched to the 6360 for a new G21/X300 combo. We are not supposed to remove the hood guard from ours. I like it personally. No reason I could see to remove it. Just my honest opinion.
 
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#6 ·
I leave mine on. When I took it off, I found that my body armor would depress the hood latch and move it forward when I got into and out of the car.
 
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#7 ·
When I T&E's one, I took it off. I couldn't get the weapon out with my off hand. I insist on being able to get to my weapon with either hand.
 
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Like I said in another thread, my agency just switched to the 6360 for a new G21/X300 combo. We are not supposed to remove the hood guard from ours. I like it personally. No reason I could see to remove it. Just my honest opinion.
I remember that tread. We're supposed to be getting 6360's this September, but they've been telling is we're switching for over a year. I'm rotating back to nights next week and went ahead and bought one myself.

Tomorrow will be my first shift with it. I'll probably leave the guard in place for a few days and see how I like it.

I can see how the vest issue could arise since the ALS puts the good release closer to the body.
 
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I remember that tread. We're supposed to be getting 6360's this September, but they've been telling is we're switching for over a year. I'm rotating back to nights next week and went ahead and bought one myself.

Tomorrow will be my first shift with it. I'll probably leave the guard in place for a few days and see how I like it.

I can see how the vest issue could arise since the ALS puts the good release closer to the body.
I got you now. That sucks you had to buy yor own, but I think you will really like the holster. I know I love mine. If you try it with the guard and really dislike it, it is fast and simple enough to remove it later.
 
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During a training, we found that you can release the hood with both hands, even with the guard on. it just takes more training. I also found my body armor dropping the hood all the time before they were put on our holster, it stopped when they gave us the hood guard.
 
#13 ·
I don't necessarily like the hood, but find it necessary when I am wearing a load bearing tactical vest and deploying a rifle. The edge of my tac vest as well as the butt of my rifle have a tendency to release the latch.
 
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One of the few gadgets I have tried that I still use. I put one on my 6280. I have been meaning to put one on my SWAT holster, I just haven't gotten around to it.

If I could stomach spending $$$ on cop stuff I would buy a 6360 and the Safariland QLS/MLS stuff.
 
#16 ·
I have both types of holsters, with or without the hood guard. Not only do I like the hood guard, I even put the optional SLS sentry latch on top to give it more security. After fiddling with it a while, it is second nature to release latch and rotate SLS hood out of the way.
 
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If I could stomach spending $$$ on cop stuff I would buy a 6360 and the Safariland QLS/MLS stuff.
We are issued the 6360s. I found that I had to bring the holster a little closer to the front of my hip, but I can get the gun out with both hands. It took some playing with it to find the spot for me though.

I also got the QLS system, and a thigh rig for when needed. It works great, and having the option makes it nice.


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#20 ·
I personally view it as a must have. I am still carrying a 6070 and given the cost of it I am going to run it as long as its serviceable, or I get issued a new gun, before I go to the ALS holsters.

I would not run it without it.

My body armor presses on it while sitting in the car and eventually cracks the plastic. I have replaced it twice in six years. They are cheap, last time I ordered two extras to keep at the house if I have to replace it again. Since losing 40lbs my body armor no longer seems to press on the hood.

Not a fan of the sentry, I think on a holster like the 6070 if its over kill and overly complex.
 
#24 ·
I had it on my 6280, have it on my 6360, and will keep it.

It's shocking to see how many officers remove this simple yet ingenious little piece of plastic. Even more shocking are the ridiculous reasons.

For those of you who remove it, I recommend doing some actual hands on training in gun retention. Have someone try to take your gun with and without the hood. I've found that the hood guard really throws a wrench into the plans of anyone trying to take your gun. Without the hood guard, it's relatively easy to rotate the hood out of the way from anywhere. The guard adds a whole new dimension of difficulty to this task. Even a fellow officer who knows the ALS holster system inside and out, has trouble defeating the simple guard.

If your justification for removing it is that you can't get to your gun with both hands, again, train more. If you're in a situation where you need to get your gun with your off-hand, then you're in a BAD situation. This is no time to leisurely reach over and try to smoothly go through the motions of drawing your gun. The first thing you should do is grab your belt and rotate it about 90 degrees to the fronts towards your off-hand. It will give you a wedgie, your holster will probably stab you in the junk, but you will be able to manipulate your holster just fine. If you're in this situation, I doubt you'll even notice the discomfort. Once the gun is where it needs to be in this situation, I doubt you'll have any trouble getting your gun.
 
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#25 ·
I guess it never was an issue to me about that because I carry my backup inside my left pants pocket in a Mika holster so I can reach it with my left hand... and it's actually faster and easier than fiddling with my main gun if I needed to pull it out right there.

Most of the time, if it is that hinky of a contat but I don't want to have my right hand on the main gun yet, I already have my left hand in my pocket with a firm grip on the backup, but still everything concealed inside the pocket so it just looks like I have my left hand inside my pocket but if I need to, the gun comes right out in my hand which would be faster than even if I had to react and draw from the right.
 
#26 ·
I had it on my 6280, have it on my 6360, and will keep it.

It's shocking to see how many officers remove this simple yet ingenious little piece of plastic. Even more shocking are the ridiculous reasons.

For those of you who remove it, I recommend doing some actual hands on training in gun retention. Have someone try to take your gun with and without the hood. I've found that the hood guard really throws a wrench into the plans of anyone trying to take your gun. Without the hood guard, it's relatively easy to rotate the hood out of the way from anywhere. The guard adds a whole new dimension of difficulty to this task. Even a fellow officer who knows the ALS holster system inside and out, has trouble defeating the simple guard.

If your justification for removing it is that you can't get to your gun with both hands, again, train more. If you're in a situation where you need to get your gun with your off-hand, then you're in a BAD situation. This is no time to leisurely reach over and try to smoothly go through the motions of drawing your gun. The first thing you should do is grab your belt and rotate it about 90 degrees to the fronts towards your off-hand. It will give you a wedgie, your holster will probably stab you in the junk, but you will be able to manipulate your holster just fine. If you're in this situation, I doubt you'll even notice the discomfort. Once the gun is where it needs to be in this situation, I doubt you'll have any trouble getting your gun.
I found the 6070 so hard to draw with my off hand I carry a BUG setup for an easy weak hand draw. I can draw from my duty holster weak hand, but doing like you say and jerking my belt around to the front is the only way, and even doing that is not easy.
 
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