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Reliability of the M&P 2.0 series vs Glock

46K views 113 replies 57 participants last post by  someguyfromnc  
#1 ·
I was curious if any of you own the M&P 2.0 series, how does it compare as far as reliability to Glocks? Like many of us here, I'm really heavily invested in the Glock platform and it's fantastic. However, I've been really fond of the styling on the M&Pc 2.0 series, and they just feel like fantastic handguns. I had the opportunity to fire one, and I will say I think I prefer the trigger that my Glock has over the M&P... but none the less a still pretty good trigger.

For those of you that own this particular model of handgun, what has your experience been like during the duration of your ownership of the M&P 2.0 series?
 
#2 ·
My 2.0 Compact with a 4 inch barrel has never had a FTF, FTE, brass to face or other malfunction. I only have a few thousand rounds through it though so I cannot say if it will hold up as well as Glocks do with a lot of use. And I also clean it after shooting so I cannot make any claims about it running thousands of rounds without cleaning but I see no reason it wouldn't.

I sold my G19.4 because I prefer the ergonomics of the S&W. Magazines are not as cheap as Glock magazines but I bought mine on sale pre-pandemic for $25 or less. I think they run in the low $30 range now but haven't checked recently. Pretty good aftermarket support too although once again not as good as Glock. But what is. I put a XS big dot sight on mine but was otherwise happy with the gun out of the box. But if you want aftermarket triggers and other items there are lots of choices.

Bottom line: Every bit as reliable as my Glock 19. Nothing has the proven track record of Glock but don't let reliability concerns stop you from buying or carrying a S&W 2.0.
 
#77 ·
I saw one in a pawn shop with CTC laser setup (LG-362). Just $420 with box, spare mag, grips, and that CTC laser (like this one below.)

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The magazines (both S&W) would not hold the slide open on the last shot. I think the mag catch is worn out as it did it on both the mags in the box. Now I don't NEED one of these as I have Glocks and SIGs.. but, that was a good price!
 
#4 ·
I don’t have any experience with the 2.0s but have a fair amount with the 1.0s in 9mm and 45. I like the ergonomics of the Smiths over the Glocks, but I did experience some reliability issues with three of the Smiths - broken striker, catastrophic failure to extract, somewhat defective RSA out of the box. The only failures I’ve experienced with Glocks was broken trigger pins and slide lock spring. The trigger pin breakage allowed my gun to keep firing abet really gritty trigger. Slide lock spring put the gun out of action. All the Glock problems were with 40s. The M&P extraction problem resulted in two trips back to warranty, with the second time being successful. The striker put the gun out of commission for a month during the Hysteria of 2103 when S&W just didn’t have spare parts on hand to send out. I should mention that the gun, a 45, that suffered the broken striker also had rhe second highest round count of anything in my collection. I carried that weapon, trained with it, and used it when I was teaching. I have a G17 with a much higher round count and went thru so many Glocks in 40 that I never put more than 4K thru any one. All that said, I haven’t seen or heard of any problems with the 2.0s. I currently carry G43xs. One thing that’s important to note is when demand gets really high, stuff gets past the QC folks and out into the consumers hands that doesn’t always work. It can happen to any manufacturer.
 
#30 ·
Only experience I have is with a Shield 1.0 but it’s been as reliable. I like it.I only have about 200 or so through it. Many swear by them. I am a Glock fanboy, but if I am honest, it’s probably like Ford-Chevy. I like the styling of the Smiths ok, but I actually prefer the Gen4 ergonomics. There is a difference in triggers but I am ok with either one.

I could definitely live with a Smith, but prefer Gen4 Glock. ( or Gen5). I do love Smith revolvers.
I switched from Glock to m&p a decade ago and never looked back. Love my M&P's!
Glock has never failed on me!
S&W has failed twice (trigger spring broke and sear broke!)
Simple as thatQ
I would have bought an M&P instead of my Glock 19 originally, but bought into the asserted superior reliability. However, I think if I had to redo it I'd get a compact M&P. I have a Shield in 9mm that has been flawless, with zero failures. I like the aesthetics of M&P over Glock, although I also like my Glock 19. It has had one failure, and that could have been ammo.
 
#6 ·
Only experience I have is with a Shield 1.0 but it’s been as reliable. I like it.I only have about 200 or so through it. Many swear by them. I am a Glock fanboy, but if I am honest, it’s probably like Ford-Chevy. I like the styling of the Smiths ok, but I actually prefer the Gen4 ergonomics. There is a difference in triggers but I am ok with either one.

I could definitely live with a Smith, but prefer Gen4 Glock. ( or Gen5). I do love Smith revolvers.
 
#9 ·
Most of us on the forum give our guns the care they are intended to get.
Under these maintenance practices, most of the top brands remain as reliable as the Glocks.

Glock's stellar reputation, much like the AK-47 rifle, stems from it's ability to remain reliable with almost no maintenance. In wartime conditions, Glocks keep running, like the Energy Bunny. However, Colt, Sig, and Beretta have also done well in those conditions.

I will also agree that Glock does stand a bit above the others. But, give them due credit too.

None of us know of a semi-auto pistol in common use that has no failures, ever. Even Glocks fail.
I believe most of these guns will meet the needs of the vast majority of us. We don't all shoot 1,000 rounds a month. Some of us have so many guns that they average about 200 rounds a year. 😁

If SHTF does come, I'll take my AK-47 and Glock 19 for sure. If I'm driving, I'll also take my Colt AR-15 and CZ P-07 along also.

Glock has a slight edge on reliability, but that doesn't keep me from sampling the other available goodies. It's not like I'm only allowed one gun -- Yet.

I have six S&W pistols, I'm very satisfied with all of them. I have about the same number of Glocks.
If I have to Grab N' Go, the Glock 19 in right where I can get it.
 
#10 ·
You'll get many anectodal examples. I own MP 2.0, Shield Plus, Glock 19 G5, and 43x. Only issue I've ever had was one Shield Plus 13 round mag, that SW is replacing and a Glock 19 Gen 4 with poor ejection.

Both have been around for some time, are used by LE and have solid reputations. The new MP2.0, like the Shield Plus have great triggers.
 
#13 · (Edited)

A quick 2 second Google search answers your question to the affirmative via two members. Even if the M&P could only last 100k rounds vs Glock's 300k, 99.99999% of gun owners aren't going to put that many rounds through the gun, so it's a moot point. The $450-$500 gun would still last the owner's lifetime and probably his children's lifetime too. It would also be obsolete by that time too. 100k rounds of 9mm is over $30k with current prices, so anyone who can afford to shoot just 100k through one gun can afford to buy a new $450 +/- gun or simply have S&W fix it.

In any event, without looking hard, I found two people who said they've gotten over 300k through theirs back when it was affordable to do so. There were several others in that same thread who had tens of thousands and counting through their M&Ps.
 
#12 · (Edited)
They are just as reliable no matter what rhetoric you hear. I have owned both. Both earlier gens of Glocks and M&Ps had far and few in-between issues. The 2.0 has a stronger frame and addressed some non reliability issues that existed with the 1.0. They both have their pros and cons. It is all personal preference. If anyone says otherwise on either side, they are bias fanboys in my opinion.

There will be anecdotals on both sides saying their example of Glock had an issue but their M&Ps were 100%, and vis versa. Overall in the big picture, both are great options.

@Dylan40cal Nothing wrong with a little verity. I would have gotten bored with firearms a long time ago if I only invested and restricted myself primarily to one platform.
 
#15 ·
OPA = Other People's Ammo

When you don't have to pay for your own ammo, or get it subsidized. I know a gov employee ( one of my former instructors) who claimed to shoot more ammo than 5x his yearly salary, of tax paid ammo.

That's only a sample of one. Many more have failed, or never reached that point, or ammo count unknown.
 
#17 ·
My 2.0 Compact with 4" barrel has also been perfect function wise. No bobbles of any kind although I only have a bit over 1800 rounds through it. I had an early 1.0 M&P in .45 ACP that functioned perfectly as well, but I liked my 1911s better and eventually sold it.

In reality, the only real problems I've had with handguns out of the numbers I've bought this century are three Glocks. I had owned several problem free Glocks, including G19s, before I bought two Gen4 G19s in 2012. But, both these Gen4s absolutely pounded my face and shooting glasses with hot empties, regardless of ammunition brand, bullet weight or power level up to +P. I was not alone as some others with Gen4 G19s were experiencing similar problems. Like me, some of them were told by Glock that there was nothing they could do because "the gun has all the updated parts". I finally fixed the BTF problem completely by installing the Apex Glock Failure Resistant Extractor in each gun. Not reliable guns as they came out of the box, but perfectly reliable once an after market extractor kit was installed.

The second G43 that I bought had a flashing edge on front of the trigger safety so sharp I had to remove the trigger and file and sand the sharp edge off before firing it. Then when I then took that 43 to the range it would not group, being all over the target with no rhyme or reason. Finally I wiggled the rear sight and found it was so loose it was moving around with each shot. I easily pushed the sight out of its dovetail with only fingernail pressure. Than I bought and installed an after market sight. One gun with two quality problems making it basically unreliable for actual use. Not a reliable product as it came out of the box, but perfectly reliable after I fixed the problems.

OP, no handgun brand is perfect regardless of what name is on the slide. In general the major makers of modern handguns turn out reliable products. You should have no worries about the M&P series of handguns, which have a reputation for reliability. When I am looking at a new S&W handgun, like my recently purchased Shield Plus , I don't wonder about reliability any more than I would about considering a new Glock. I am confident that both the 2.0 and the Glock will be reliable. Quality issues can happen with any individual product, even if the overall quality and reliability of the brand is good.

Good luck with your decision.
 
#24 ·
I have the M&P9 2.0 4” barrel , M&P 2.0 .45 and the shield plus. Easily couple thousand rounds through the 9 , 1000 through the .45 and just a few hundred through the plus. Never a hiccup with any of them. I’m down to just one G45 , which I will not get rid of , but sold my other glocks and went with M&P. The Smiths are a better gun for me as far as accuracy and ergos.
 
#25 ·
Thank you to everyone who responded,

I definitely am going to pull the plug on a M&P2.0 when I get the chance to do so. Love the way the gun feels, nice grip angle, and how it shoots. I know the M&Ps are reliable guns, but I wanted to hear first hand from owners of their experiences they have had with the firearm. Generally, I've heard nothing but great things about the M&P series, and I can't wait to get mine soon.
 
#26 ·
I started with M&P. I trust M&P and Glock the same.
I prefer Glock because it’s easier to change sights and disassemble the slide. I do not like how m&ps require pushing the sights off in order to gain access to the striker block. I prefer the location of the firing pin safety notch on the Glock over M&P. This made me feel better when I switched to appendix. I prefer the Glock grip angle and stock trigger now.

I would trust both. M&P has the right price point. My first gun was a PC Shield 9, and that thing rocks. I also ran a shield 45 for awhile. Glock has taken over for me now though. Both are extremely reliable and proven platforms. M&P is a close second to Glock. My wife and my brother both prefer the M&Ps to the Glocks. Smith is doing some really good stuff 🤷🏻‍♂️.

I also have found the M&P 2.0 Tecture, while it’s great to shoot, it’s scrapes my skin bad during carry. Stick texture works great to me and doesn’t scratch.