Interesting. Do you have a link?

 

I recently bought a Plum Crazy Firearms complete lower and I was (am) unbelievably impressed. To me the combination of low weight (lighter than my Cav Arms lower), fit and price is an awesome combination. When I built my Cav Arms lower, it took me about 3 hours of fitting to get it together properly. That is not including my normal assembly time. This lower comes COMPLETE for about the same price as I sometimes pay for an empty lower. My local dealer is selling them for $149 including tax. The only gripe I have is that Pmags didn't fall free (15 minutes work with a fine file fixed that).
If someone hasn't handled one of these, they are COMPLETELY made out of polymer, just like Glocks (those Glocks will never catch on, remember...) including the fire control group. Unlike Cav Arms, they have a conventional pistol grip and an adjustable stock.

Highlighted section is what red flags it for me. If you have something break do they sell spares or is your lower now "scrap"?

 

Highlighted section is what red flags it for me. If you have something break do they sell spares or is your lower now "scrap"?

They have a lifetime warranty and they also take standard AR parts so you could put your favorite fire control parts in if you wanted.

 

Have been considering onenof these for my belt fed 22 upper. Haven't really decided if I want to try it out

 

I'm really tempted to get one to pair with a lightweight 14.5" midlength and PA micro dot for an ultralight truck gun....

 

I am concerned with the polymer internals as well, can standard internals be used (don't care too much about a warranty)?

 

http://colemantyler.com/proddetail.php?prod=PCLRC6

This place is selling them.

 

I actually just got one myself about 2 months ago. I love it! I got mine at Coleman Tyler, and they were great!

 

My buddy has a FA one.

Runs great. Probably 7k rounds through it by now. No problems!

 

The only weird thing about mine is that you can put the selector on safe with the hammer forward (actually just like one in the picture from the link!). Can't do that with a regular lower. Apart from that, it has a very decent trigger pull.
I've had it at the range. Shoots well. Absolutely NO play between lower and upper, but it does not bind, so you can still easily pull the rear locking pin.

 

I have one, bought it for $106 out the door a few weeks ago at a SC gun show. I havent used it yet however.

They have them in stock at the dealer i bought from for $112 shipped to your ffl.

http://www.upstatearmorygroup.com

 

I have one, bought it for $106 out the door a few weeks ago at a SC gun show. I havent used it yet however.

They have them in stock at the dealer i bought from for $112 shipped to your ffl.

http://www.upstatearmorygroup.com

i bought one for a dedicated .22lr (CMMG evolution upper) and love it! light, wonderful trigger pull - very crisp.
so i just bought two more PCF lowers while the price is still so good -- $112 delivered to FFL. one is for my youngest son (a future build); one is to hold on to for awhile. do you realize that if you buried a Plum Crazy lower in a proper tube, it wouldn't register on a metal detector? it wouldn't rust or corrode either. just saying ...

 

I think I am going to order one and try it out, thanks for the info on this!

 

I bought one early this year when my local dealer started stocking them. We went in for something else and ended up taking 5 of them between all of us.

I used mine to build an ultralight KISS rifle and I got mine to 5.8 pounds with a fixed rear sight on an Armalite A3 upper.

 

I bought one early this year when my local dealer started stocking them. We went in for something else and ended up taking 5 of them between all of us.

I used mine to build an ultralight KISS rifle and I got mine to 5.8 pounds with a fixed rear sight on an Armalite A3 upper.

Can parts be exchanged between a traditional AR reciever such as internals ect? I would like to order one and put on a fixed A1 length stock, and different grip.

 

Can parts be exchanged between a traditional AR reciever such as internals ect? I would like to order one and put on a fixed A1 length stock, and different grip.

Yes, but why would you? At that point it would be cheaper to get a regular lower. According to the manufacturer, the weight is about the same.

 

Yes, but why would you? At that point it would be cheaper to get a regular lower. According to the manufacturer, the weight is about the same.

Mine is on order now

Ok, in reference to above, I want to know that should stuff break over time that I can replace it with standard internals. Second, in reference to the stock, I have a 20" upper in need of a lower and I have never liked the look of a collapsable stock with that length of upper. This is not so much of a weight or price thing to me, as it is a new idea to try. The upper I am placing on it is a true SP1 (lightweight), so it should be an ultralight retro.

 

One thing I did notice on the couple I have seen, they build them with commercial tubes. Just something to keep in mind.

 

Commercial tubes don't bother me because you can usually find usedstocks for cheap since everyone wants milspec.

 

Can parts be exchanged between a traditional AR reciever such as internals ect? I would like to order one and put on a fixed A1 length stock, and different grip.

The buffer tube is commercial size, not military, so you can switch out stocks to a commercial diameter one. You can also replace the tube itself since it is threaded in like a regular lower.

However, the innards are different. The hammer is also polymer and some of the springs don't look the same as regular LPK's.

Even the mag release is different so you can't use a regular mag release.

 

Mine is on order now

Ok, in reference to above, I want to know that should stuff break over time that I can replace it with standard internals. Second, in reference to the stock, I have a 20" upper in need of a lower and I have never liked the look of a collapsable stock with that length of upper. This is not so much of a weight or price thing to me, as it is a new idea to try. The upper I am placing on it is a true SP1 (lightweight), so it should be an ultralight retro.

The Canadian military issues a standard 20" A2 upper with a collapsible stock. Doesn't look half bad.

 

Just picked up one at Upstate Armory Group. $112 out the door. Mated it with a Bushmaster A1/C7 superlight upper - sweetness!!!

 

The buffer tube is commercial size, not military, so you can switch out stocks to a commercial diameter one. You can also replace the tube itself since it is threaded in like a regular lower.

However, the innards are different. The hammer is also polymer and some of the springs don't look the same as regular LPK's.

Even the mag release is different so you can't use a regular mag release.

That information is not completely accurate. Yes, those parts are made of polymer, but all the parts can be interchanged w/ milspec parts (except the buffertube which is commercial sized, as mentioned earlier).

 

Plumcrazy lower with A1/C7 upper and Bushmaster superlight pencil barrel. Haven't shot this configuration yet but the trigger break is awesome!!!

ETA: My only negative so far is that they come with a Tapco stock which wiggles too much for my liking even on the commercial diameter tube. Will be replacing the commercial tube with a milspec tube so I can use one of my spare carbine stocks.

 

That information is not completely accurate. Yes, those parts are made of polymer, but all the parts can be interchanged w/ milspec parts (except the buffertube which is commercial sized, as mentioned earlier).

You can replace all the innards with regular LPK as long as you swap everything out en masse. If you look at it, the individual parts don't look like they would be totally interchangeable on a piece by piece basis.

The mag release button looks similar enough, but on the other side, the mag release catch is tapered like a boattail bullet instead of a rounded rectangle on the regular lowers. You can't make that fit. I am sure of it.