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Microtech is turning to China to make some of their knives

8.4K views 58 replies 30 participants last post by  Colt38SuperDude  
#1 · (Edited)
Anthony Marfione has a new video on YouTube announcing this. Evidently one of their lower-priced knife models will be clearly marketed and sold as not made in the USA, but, they spent 25 years building a "Made in America" business strategy.

 
#4 ·
It is what is. If you want to spend $250+ on a knife, you can still buy that made in the USA knife. Kershaw did the same thing years ago. They are a business and in it to make a profit. Microtech can pick up new customers with their cheaper knives.
I have a ton of China made knives and most are top notch.
 
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I honestly hope things work out for them, I really do; but, knowing how the Chinese operate, it will be a honeymoon at first and then the honeymoon will be over. No doubt China makes very high quality products. On par with any company in the world, seriously.

The problem is their business model of cheat, copy and sell at a lower cost. If not outside China, they sell inside China. A big player like Apple can swing a big stick, a small player like Microtech will be at a disadvantage, in my opinion. I hope they can hold their own.
 
#7 ·
There's still the Italian option in the knife world. I saw a bunch of Italian-made knives recently online, and not only were they gorgeous and well-made, but also listed at a very good price point.

I have a Fox 598 fixed-blade Karambit, and the level of quality with this knife is amazing, and it was only $123. Good steel, well made, great to grip....total win.

I can't buy Chinese-made knives. As it is, I'm moving....or trying to move.....away from Taiwanese-made knives. There may be a couple of Cold Steel knives I'll have to buy though before I do....their Master Tanto in 3V with a satin finish being one of them.
 
#23 ·
be careful about that. Italians are deceptive SOBs. Italy seems to have very competitive pricing, but when you take a deeper look at what "made in Italy" means, you will find that in theory, it means "assembled in Italy". So in practice you can import all fo the pieces from China, put it together in Bologna, and presto, it's "made in Italy". However, in practice, maybe not even that. Italy's legal system is broken, and to actually enforce a law is incredibly difficult to do. IP lawsuits against Italian companies can go on for over a decade until the patents run out. They are THAT bad over there.
 
#8 ·
American small companies are in a no win situation that the big corporations put them in

If they dont use chinese slave labor and pay them bribe money then they’ll be copied and run out of business

Go to Alibaba and look at any brand name item you own

Its copied by the Chinese, produced and sold for a fraction of the price

 
#10 ·
Well, well well.
I have 3 Microtech knives…….. and that will be it for me.
I was also STUPID enough to buy a STG 556, their AUG build in 2009. Mine worked but they halted production so I sold it.
I’m done with him.

It easy to have stuff built in China. Everyone does it.
In 2006 I left a lucrative job because the owner wanted me to move a major product line to China and put 450 out of work here. I refused and change jobs.
F these sell outs
 
#16 ·
There are quite few Chinese companies making knives now that make some of the highest quality knives in the world. They don't copy anybody's designs, they make them under license or design their own knives. They are not in any way cheap; they have highly skilled workers who are not slaves. The lower end models offer fantastic value for the money and their high end models are as good as anything anywhere and they are expensive. Many of these companies buy their steel in the USA or Europe.
 
#18 ·
I've already bought a knife that was made in China, and shipped directly to me, here. My general experience with Chinese knives is that the pricier ones are very nicely made, precisely put together, and the steel is of excellent quality—Better, in several instances, than similar American-made models.

Here's a Chinese 'knock off' that has an excellent laminated AUS-8 steel blade on it that really holds an edge!

 
#26 ·
So silly.
You don't like strip clubs- drive on by. Don't go all Karen about it.
You don't like the fact that the Socom Bravo wil be made in China- don't buy it.
Jeez.
As you are typing on your phone made in China, watching your TV made in China, cooking breakfast on your stove made in China......
Don't get me wrong, I try to buy USA made products also, and will absolutely pay a premium to get those products, but the level of freak-out about Microtech China collaboration is crazy. Just don't buy it.
 
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So silly.
You don't like strip clubs- drive on by. Don't go all Karen about it.
You don't like the fact that the Socom Bravo wil be made in China- don't buy it.
Jeez.
As you are typing on your phone made in China, watching your TV made in China, cooking breakfast on your stove made in China......
IBM sold its small computer business to the PRC people because it couldn't make a profit. You guys simply wouldn't buy "IBM". In December 2005 IBM sold its personal computer division to the Lenovo Group, a major Chinese manufacturer. In addition to cash, securities, and debt restructuring, IBM acquired an 18.9 percent stake in Lenovo, which acquired the right to market its personal computers under the IBM label through 2010. Then trace back who owns Lenovo.
NFORMATION ON LEGEND HOLDINGS Legend Holdings is an investment holding company established in 1984 in the PRC and with its subsidiaries primarily engaged in information technology, equity investment and real estate investment

So the whinning about doing business with the Commies is really a bit late.
You can start by not buying auto repair parts at the local auto repair parts place made in mainland China, ok? You might actually save some money in the long run as Scotty Kilmer on youtube says a lot of those aftermarket parts are not very good.
 
#27 ·
I don't buy any knives that cost over $10 and not many of those either -- my comment isn't even about knives.

But JFC the guy does a video telling people he is going to produce stuff in China - and then he is not really man enough to actually say it - he says China exactly one time while talking about other companies.

He shows the product - after saying he is totally transparent a few times - but does not show the side that more than likely says MADE IN CHINA.

To top it off he is wearing two (sort of) American Flags - one on his hat and another on his shirt - why not break out the China hat and shirt to announce you are starting to make stuff in China?

Want to make stuff in China - do it, your company your choice - I buy stuff from there sometimes too.

My guess is if you look back in 5 years that they will be producing a lot of stuff in China - it goes like this -

Hey get cost accounting to determine how much this new knife will cost - have them work it up for US and China so we know the difference.

OK so USA cost will be $85 and China will do it for $29 - the USA knife will have to sell for $249 the China knife for $89 -- we will sell 25,000 USA produced knives and 250,000 China knives.

I wonder what we should do??
 
#29 ·
True. It's the consumer that drives this. It always has been. Americans don't seem to mind slowly eroding their ability to earn a living while they buy that Chinese made item. It's the world we live in.

My biggest gripe with his decision is the timing. Nearly 2 years ago, through either massive incompetence or worse, an evil concerted effort, the CCP unleashed destruction on the world (and more importantly, our) economy. I don't see how I could make his decision in light of that fact.

Maybe instead it is time to innovate. If he wants to build a more affordable product, he can probably come up with a way to do it in this country if he really sets his mind to it.