[Bren]

I can get a bunch of used Taurus revolvers for $1700. Who cares?

If you these are expensive, check out the original Korths.

That is certainly the collectors' perspective. For a shooter, it's as big as an S&W N Frame and the only thing it does that an N-frame won't do as well or better is cost $1700 give you an inadequate caliber.

 

[Bren]

That’s really bizarre. What a weird comparison.

You could also get 1700 cookies, but that’s not a great comparison either.

If you turn your caliber snob mind off and look at the particular guns:

You must be referring to the 629, 2.6” barrel 44 mag.

Which weighs almost twice as much as the Korth at 38oz vs 19.5oz.

44 mag, like 357 mag kind of sucks out of short barrels.

Real world testing
www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/44mag.html

Has the 44 mag short barrel putting a 165gr bullet at around 1000 fps.

That’s not a whole lot more manly than my tested 147gr at 1000 fps.

I’ll also bet dollars to donuts that I could achieve better 5 shots in 3 second groups with the Korth, which in a carry gun is important to me.

And that’s kind of the point. 9mm is IMHO the most shootable with very decent ballistics out of a <2” barrel.

So again, out of your 20 oz, 2” barrel revolver choices that perform well accuracy and ballistically... what options are there. Also add that you don’t need moon clips for the Korth to run 9mm.

There’s also something to be said about having a primary and BUG being the same caliber. Some people also use Glock magazines as Korth 9mm speedloaders....

The 44 mag out of a short barrel 629 only hits as hard as a Shield 45.

@DonD for me, I think it’s the DA trigger and the increased recoil without the semiauto shock absorber along the higher bore access that makes quick shot revolver accuracy challenging for me. That’s why I was super surprised that it was even in the same ballpark as one of my best shooting semi-autos.

No, I was thinking of the 329PD, which weighs 25.2 oz, even with a 4" barrel and gives you 6 rounds of .44 mag/spl. If you think a 9mm from a 2" barrel is somehow better than a .44 from a 2" barrel...no.

 

[bac1023]

That is certainly the collectors' perspective. For a shooter, it's as big as an S&W N Frame and the only thing it does that an N-frame won't do as well or better is cost $1700 give you an inadequate caliber.

Ridiculous and asinine as usual...

There is NOTHING collectible about a new production Korth Sky Hawk.

Bren, best to stay in your lane. You haven't the first clue what is or isn't collectible in the firearm's world. :upeyes:

 

[fnfalman]

No, I was thinking of the 329PD, which weighs 25.2 oz, even with a 4" barrel and gives you 6 rounds of .44 mag/spl. If you think a 9mm from a 2" barrel is somehow better than a .44 from a 2" barrel...no.

How many people can shoot the 329 well?

 

[-JCN-]

That is certainly the collectors' perspective. For a shooter, it's as big as an S&W N Frame and the only thing it does that an N-frame won't do as well or better is cost $1700 give you an inadequate caliber.

Except that for a SHOOTER, being able to shoot quickly and accurately is kind of the most important thing for a carry revolver, no? That's what I was really interested in.

No, I was thinking of the 329PD, which weighs 25.2 oz, even with a 4" barrel and gives you 6 rounds of .44 mag/spl. If you think a 9mm from a 2" barrel is somehow better than a .44 from a 2" barrel...no.

Doood. Now I kind of want a 329PD!

I will totally give you that a 4" .44 is "superior" ballistically to a 2" 9mm revolver.

But....

Hear me out and take off the $$ goggles for a second.

1. It IS the size of an N-frame, almost.
2. My 327PC is pictured below and that's my current pocket revolver.
3. Do you think that 357 magnum in a snubbie is "inadequate?"
4. 9mm out of a 2" barrel is ballistically similar to 357 magnum out of a 2" barrel. Yes, I've tested. And the 357 magnum is waaay less shootable than the 9mm even though the ballistics are the same (at those barrel lengths with commercial SD ammo).

So for me, the Sky Hawk is ballistically and size equivalent to my N-frame shooting 357 magnum, but the Korth is waaaaay easier to shoot well and accurately.

But the main advantage is being able to share ammo with a primary semiauto carry gun.

How many people can shoot the 329 well?

And again, this is the main point. I was amazed that the Korth shot almost as well as a good micro semiauto 9 with similar ballistics. If Bren thinks 9mm is inadequate in general, that's another story.

This whole train of thought came about because the 327PC isn't that easy to get follow up shots on target with 357 magnum. So I thought, "Hey, if I can get the ballistics of the 357 magnum in an N-frame sized revolver but in way more shootable cartridge... that might be a winner."

The cost of a Korth Sky Hawk is within $500 or so of a 327 PC.

And I don't see myself carrying a 4" .44 in a jacket pocket.

 

[Bren]

How many people can shoot the 329 well?

Apparently, as I have learned on Glock Talk, most people have no idea how to shoot a revolver of any weight or caliber, these days.

 

[fastbolt]

I've long been a revolver guy.

I usually consider the myriad of revolvers that's been available to be aesthetically pleasing to the eye (particularly single action revolvers, compared to the fad of DA revolvers ... which still seems to be hanging on, for some reason ). Some more than others, to be sure.

That said, even though it's a Korth, that Korth snub has got to be ugliest wheelgun I've ever laid eyes on.

It makes the Kimber, Charter Arms and Chiappa revolvers look elegant.

Whatever spins your cylinder, though.

 

[Lt. Donn]

Nope...not worth it for me...practically weaned on revolvers...my $350- -686 is butter smooth, ultra-reliable, and more accurate than I can hold it

 

[bac1023]

I've long been a revolver guy.

I usually consider the myriad of revolvers that's been available to be aesthetically pleasing to the eye (particularly single action revolvers, compared to the fad of DA revolvers ... which still seems to be hanging on, for some reason ). Some more than others, to be sure.

That said, even though it's a Korth, that Korth snub has got to be ugliest wheelgun I've ever laid eyes on.

It makes the Kimber, Charter Arms and Chiappa revolvers look elegant.

Whatever spins your cylinder, though.

I must agree.

I can’t do the Lollar Korths. Quality is great, but they have no sense of style whatsoever. Even that PRS auto they built is hideous.

 

[fastbolt]

I must agree.

I can’t do the Lollar Korths. Quality is great, but they have no sense of style whatsoever. Even that PRS auto they built is hideous.

Ain't that the truth.

Kind of like how virtually everyday I'm dismayed by the lackluster styling of modern cars, compared to the elegance and diversity of older model cars. Most of them seem to be in a race to look alike and be indistinguishable from each other.

Just yesterday I saw a new Jaguar that at first glance appeared to be a Honda. My wife thought so, too, when I commented on it's bland and nondescript styling. (Of course, part of that may be due to the fact that I sold British motor cars in the 70's.)

Guns and cars are becoming so homogenized that it's become a bit dismaying to those of use who remember older times and older styling of each.

I miss fender and tail wings and vent windows, dammit.

 

[Borg Warner]

I still don't see the point in having such a big gun with such a huge grip with such a short barrel. --Concealability??? Not hardly. Why not increase barrel length and improve ballistics???

 

[Berto]

It was interesting, thanks for doing that JCN. :thumbsup:

 

[ctxcummins]

I must agree.

I can’t do the Lollar Korths. Quality is great, but they have no sense of style whatsoever. Even that PRS auto they built is hideous.

The Mongoose isn't half-bad. It's the only one I would consider....if I was inclined to drop $4k on a new revolver.

 

[bac1023]

The Mongoose isn't half-bad. It's the only one I would consider....if I was inclined to drop $4k on a new revolver.

Yeah, just change out the grips.

 

[jdeere_man]

Interesting gun for sure, but where can you even buy one if you wanted it? I have never seen one place that had it in stock. All I find on google is reviews and write-ups which are nothing more than PR. Never see one on gun broker, never seen any on Buds gun shop. Nighthawkcustom is not taking orders due to backorders. How many backorders are there seriously for a $1700 revolver which sells for MSRP?!

 

[bac1023]

Interesting gun for sure, but where can you even buy one if you wanted it? I have never seen one place that had it in stock. All I find on google is reviews and write-ups which are nothing more than PR. Never see one on gun broker, never seen any on Buds gun shop. Nighthawkcustom is not taking orders due to backorders. How many backorders are there seriously for a $1700 revolver which sells for MSRP?!

I don’t think Korth builds a ton o them...

 

[fnfalman]

Apparently, as I have learned on Glock Talk, most people have no idea how to shoot a revolver of any weight or caliber, these days.

Even Skelton back in the old days didn’t have to shoot a snubbie lightweight .44 Magnum.

 

[Diesel McBadass]

I hate big grip shorth barrel guns personally, these seem like the revolver equivalent of autos going this way

 

[-JCN-]

I've long been a revolver guy.

I usually consider the myriad of revolvers that's been available to be aesthetically pleasing to the eye (particularly single action revolvers, compared to the fad of DA revolvers ... which still seems to be hanging on, for some reason ). Some more than others, to be sure.

That said, even though it's a Korth, that Korth snub has got to be ugliest wheelgun I've ever laid eyes on.

It makes the Kimber, Charter Arms and Chiappa revolvers look elegant.

Whatever spins your cylinder, though.

I’m a function over form guy for carry guns. It could look like a cucumber for all I care as long as it shoots well in a defense type scenario.

Glocks aren’t pretty, but they work.

I still don't see the point in having such a big gun with such a huge grip with such a short barrel. --Concealability??? Not hardly. Why not increase barrel length and improve ballistics???

It’s interesting. Because the front is so short it makes the grip look crazy long. But people conceal G19X...

It’s actually the same weight and length as a Shield 9. The grip is a little longer, but believe it or not... the rounded butt prints less than the angular base of a semiauto magazine.

And heck, some people CCW 1911s...

My opinion is that 9mm works pretty darn well in 2” revolvers (equivalent of 3” semiauto due to cylinder math) and you don’t get much meaningful additional ballistic bang for your buck from 3-5” with that caliber.

YMMV. If I were to only own one gun, it wouldn’t be this one.

But as far as carry revolvers? I think this is the one I’d probably keep.

 

[fastbolt]

I’m a function over form guy for carry guns. It could look like a cucumber for all I care as long as it shoots well in a defense type scenario. ...

I'm a function-before-form guy myself, but that looks like something made for the gaudy appareled comic sidekick in a sci-fi/Steampunk movie.

Now, if it had been used by Mal in Firefly (versus that brass-covered Taurus), it might've had a bit more allure.