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DubfromGA

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Recently picked up a new Glock Performance Trigger.

Going to add another MOS version to my meager gun collection.

I've been carrying a G48 MOS comfortablely.


Thinking of adding another G19, G17 or G34 for home defense and target use. Have an EPS Carry for it.


Is the factory G34 trigger on the Gen5 models much of an improvement over the Gen5 G19 or G17 ?


Would I be gaining much by installing the Glock Performance Trigger in a G34 ?


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I like the Vogel triggers and Ive put a few in. $150 to get a Glock the way you want it is about the upper limit to spend for me and if its a full time gun I'll spend another $100 or so on sights. I put the Skimmer in my G19 for duty use and its a great trigger SKIMMER - Glocktriggers.com

I have no regrets. I bet my life on this pistol for 10 years and the only regret I have with it is I gave it to my kid prematurely in a moment of weakness fathers "cops" experience with their son's "new cops". Man I loved that G19 and that trigger.

I put the competition trigger into my G34. That gun I'll keep.
 
Is the factory G34 trigger on the Gen5 models much of an improvement over the Gen5 G19 or G17 ?
The G34 should ship with the 4.5# connector also referred to as the “minus” or “-“ connector, which will lighten the trigger by 0.5#-1.0# compared to the stock trigger. I use a minus connector in most of my GLOCKs. The lighter trigger pull weight comes at the expense of a less pronounced wall at the trigger break. I prefer the lighter trigger and I perform better with the weight reduction.

The GPT is even lighter and it’s one of the better triggers available for GLOCKs, in my view. Virtually everyone I know that is using it, likes it, and reportedly have seen some improvement in their performance while using it. It’s designed as a competition trigger, so you may want to consider that if you plan on using it as a home defense weapon, as it may increase the risk of a negligent discharge. Since the minus connector is relatively inexpensive and it gets me close to where I want to be with my trigger, I haven’t started installing the GPT on my guns, yet. I’ll probably pick one up to run more extensive tests against my current setup, at which point I could provide a more data driven recommendation of whether I find it worthwhile.
 
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It absolutely wasn’t a waste in my 19.5. I know that’s not your exact model weapon but as far as trigger performance, it’s quite good.


It is good to hear.
Thanks for the insight.


I'm not dialed in on which new Glock I am going to add.

I have been getting acclimated to a G48 MOS with EPS-Carry optic.
The freaking gun carries so comfortably IWB and I've added Shield Arms S-15 mags, magwell and some Talon grip tape.
Today will be my 4th range session with it.

My accuracy isn't as good as good, thus far, as with my G19....that gun is a stud. G19 runs great for me....just feels a little thick IWB, my preferred carry spot. It also isn't optic ready.



I have the GPTrigger and another EPS (larger) model that I am itching to use.

Was thinking the gen5 G19 MOS would be handy as I'm deep with mags already.

Then again....the G34 would be more comfortable & stable in hand and make for a great range gun.
I'm already deep in other carry guns, anyway.


May save a few bucks over the G34 and see what my lgs can do on a G17 MOS.
 
I put the Glock Performance Trigger in my Gen5 G34 MOS and it was much better than the original trigger. I didn't care for the trigger shoe so much so I replaced it with a Johnny Glock GPT VEX SHOE upgrade trigger shoe. This is by far the best trigger set-up on any Glock I have ever owned.

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It’s designed as a competition trigger, so you may want to consider that if you plan on using it as a home defense weapon, as it may increase the risk of a negligent discharge.
The minus connector is also intended for competition. It is still restricted by Glock for LE use, even though the GPT is lighter & available to anyone for $99.99. Go figure.

For many years now, the minus connector has been considered by many to be a legal liability as you mention that the GPT is.
 
For many years now, the minus connector has been considered by many to be a legal liability as you mention that the GPT is.
The minus connector lightens the trigger, but it‘s already standard in the G34. If after using it, one feels the trigger is too light, then that too could raise the odds of an ND and would be a liability potentially. However, I have numerous guns with triggers between 3.5#-4.5# and I’m comfortable carrying them.
 
The minus connector lightens the trigger, but it already is standard in the G34. If after using it one feels the trigger is too light, then that too could raise the odds of an ND and would be a liability potentially. However, I have numerous guns with triggers between 3.5#-4.5# and I’m comfortable carrying them.
The 34 is a competition pistol, except when carried by LE for duty. When ordered by LE departments, the 34 usually comes with the 5.5 lb. connector instead of the minus connector.

Legal liability or a court's condemnation for the use of a lighter than standard trigger has nothing to do with the shooter's feelings about it or comfort with carrying it.
 
The 34 is a competition pistol, except when carried by LE for duty. When ordered by LE departments, the 34 usually comes with the 5.5 lb. connector instead of the minus connector.

Legal liability or a court's condemnation for the use of a lighter than standard trigger has nothing to do with the shooter's feelings about it or comfort with carrying it.
The ND is a shooter induced problem. A light trigger in and of itself is not a liability. It becomes a liability when negligence is involved in a shooting rather than a deliberate decision to fire, so the gun owner‘s comfort with using one is a consideration, in my view. The trigger weight in a justified self defense gun use has no bearing on the outcome. If the use of force isn’t considered justified, then the gun will be scrutinized.

The G34 was initially introduced as the tactical/practical pistol. How a LE department orders the gun has no bearing on how the gun is shipped to a consumer that is contemplating using it for the range and/or self defense, as was indicated by the OP.
 
I know plenty of officers that use minus connectors and gpt’s . Where is this restricted for LE use coming from?
From: GLOCK Parts List, Will-Fit Info, & Order Form for Certified Armorers Only

Glock Part #721 Connector 4.5 lb "minus" (marked " - ") - LE agency ONLY (Chief or Sheriff Authorization & Signature required) - See page 13 (Excludes G42, G43)
 
I guess I’ll be the one that goes against the flow, but I had one in my G34.5. Ran it for a couple of months in competition. I ended up removing it. Lighter? Yes. Different? Yes. It takes the Glock from a partially cocked striker to fully cocked. Better? I wasn’t convinced. I will echo that the OEM GPT shoe is not great. I did end up swapping to the OEM smooth. Also, I didn’t like the unforgiving nature of the maintenance requirements. Not that it’s a lot, but it isn’t nearly forgiving as the OEM assembly.
 
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