Cause it’s a Hi-Point

 

But a reliable gun to keep in a barn, right?

 

Not an issue if you never clean them.

 

Because they are ugly, very ugly actually.
If given one as a gift it would be quickly
given away.

 

Because they aren’t cool.

 

I'm just not a fan of pistol cartridge carbines.

 

Looks
Maintenance / disassembly / reassembly

 

they're uglier than a red headed stepchild
the trigger is gritty and heavy
they're low capacity

did I mention its ugly?

 

I've shot the .40. I have a friend that has one. We put a couple hundred rounds through it (back when one could afford to do it) with no hiccups. The only issue was that the charging handle kept falling off (no loctite available at the range to fix the issue).

 

I like it, though I don't own one (yet?). For me, beauty is on how it works. Its a firearm not a jewelry. I've heard good things about it.

 

Get two. You can have the one I wasn't going to buy.

 

They care nothing for southpaw shooters, maybe?


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They care nothing for southpaw shooters, maybe?

On Honest Outlaw's YouTube review it was found that you couldn't grip it left-handed without ejecting the magazine. As a lefty myself, that kinda killed what mild interest I had.

 

They are ugly, feel like they're going to break in my hands without even being fired. Low capacity, not ergonomic. Lastly, a pain in the butt to disassemble.

Some might like them but, I don't, and I won't own one. We might not even let them on our property.



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Pros: Reliable (with 10 round magazines), Least expensive PCC, Good Accuracy out to 25-30 yards.

Cons: Heavy'ish, difficult to field strip/clean/reassemble, sights/sight options, horrible trigger with little corrective options, limited capacity/aftermarket +cap magazines unreliable, ugly.

All-in-All for a slightly premium price over the HP 995, I'd rather have the the Kel-Tec S-2000

(Son in law had Hi-Point, son has the Kel-Tec, I have the MPX-SBR)

 

All-in-All for a slightly premium price over the HP 995, I'd rather have the the Kel-Tec S-2000

This. At least the KelTec can fold up to fit in a backpack and it takes reliable, abundant, double-stack high-capacity mags. I think the KelTec is also ugly, but I'd much rather have one of those over the HiPoint carbine.

 

Low capacity

 

If that's all you can afford, knock yourself out, and there is no shame in that. I don't condemn manufacturers like Hi-Point and Taurus because they make cheap guns that poor people can afford. A single mom working a minimum wage job has a right to self-defense just as much as anyone else and Hi-Point provides a legitimate option for that.

But if you can afford better, get better. The quality just isn't there.

 

Everybody can't be fabulous! There's just not enough to go around.

 

The only HI-Point carbine I ever looked at came with only one magazine with no others at the store and I thought that was a bad sign. On the other hand, for all the hate Hi-Point gets I have never seen anyone say they don't work or are poor value for the price. If all you can afford is a Hi-Point you will probably never shoot enough to wear it out.

 

i have one in 9mm. yes they are ugly, heavy, lower round mags. they are what they are. picked mine up in a trade. person that owned it before me, had it all assed up. first time out with it, was a jam o matic. it hadn't been shot much. i like working on guns. i now have it running 100%. it wouldn't shoot HP ammo at all at first. it now will shoot anything you feed it. its a fun plinker for me. have several mags for it. its not fond of the 20 rounders that came with it. thats the next thing i will fix.

 

I like the Hipoint carbine even though I never owned one. I would get the 10mm.

There are not a lot of options on the market for a 10mm carbine and nothing in it's price range.

The company is an American company with a reputation for excellent customer service.

I find it interesting how many comments are saying it's ugly. You know we are on a Glock forum right?

There's also the option to convert it to a bullpup with the high tower armory conversion. Looks pretty cool.

The biggest downside is the 10 round capacity. It's not a deal breaker for me but it does suck. If they redesigned it to take a double stack mag they would be way more popular.

 

I imagine they're trying to keep it cheap & affordable.

 

Funny to see the thread, I ordered a JHP and 4595 from buds. I’m not expecting much, it is more out of curiosity than anything.

 

I've always wanted a 45 acp carbine to suppress. I didn't want to spend the kind of money on the very few that were produced. Just for the hell of it I came upon a Hi Point 4595 with a threaded barrel in 45 acp. I thought I couldn't go wrong for around 300 bucks so I bought it. I am more than pleased with it. Yeah, it's not pretty or light but damn if it isn't reliable as hell. I love the fact that it has never failed to feed anything that I ran thru it including my reloaded 200 grain semi wadcutters. It's a lot of fun to shoot and made entirely in the USA (Mansfield, Ohio) with a company that stands behind each and every one. Their customer service department is second to none. So go ahead and look down your noses but I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. (They are a PITA to disassemble but just don't have to be very often.)

 

It's a very nice kids gun between 22lr and 223. If they were double stack I'd own a few

 

I got the 10mm version just on a whim. Also bought a couple extra 10mm magazines. And I found out that it is hella fun to shoot. It even shoots .40S&W in a pinch, and does that just fine.

I'll probably never shoot it enough to need disassembly and cleaning. I'll just keep the bolt lubed and see how long it will run. If it makes it to the 1500~2000 round count without a good cleaning I will have run out of money to keep feeding it.

But it's fun and accurate especially considering what I paid for it.

 

Field strip is the only thing, but with their provided tool you get used to it. It will still work after many rounds without stripping if you just bore snake the barrel and hose out the innards with something like Hornady One Shot Gun cleaner and lube.

Sure they are ugly and bulky and feel like greasy tupperware and can pinch your cheek on the buttstock, but they work. If you run out of ammo, it can be used as a decent club

 

Inexpensive. Reliable. Rugged. Good value for the money.

Are they fancy? No. Are they difficult to strip? Supposedly. Do they get the job done? Absolutely.

I prefer my CX4, but I have one these, and I’ve had zero complaints.

 

The 9mm ones, okay if that is what you can get.

The 10mm ones, too much for their blowback design/mass.

 

I finally after several years of ownership stripped mine down for cleaning. Not because it was not running, but because I was taking my adult son and nephew out to the range after Thanksgiving dinner. Watched a you tube video, it was really easy to field strip, and it was a dirty mess inside. Cleaned it up, put new tape on the grip-and we shot about 100 rounds out of it.
Both of the young men loved it. It has a cheap dot scope mounted. They were easily knocking down plates at 25 yards, crappy trigger and all.
Sometimes cheap and ugly can be pretty sweet.