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H&K P8A1 Pistol.

8.1K views 25 replies 23 participants last post by  Workedofarttah  
#1 ·
Another impulse buy. I ordered a new HK P8A1 pistol last week, and picked it up from my FFL today.

The P8A1 is the German government/military version of the USP. This is the pistol issued to the Bundeswehr. I would presume it's also used by any German government or police agencies that use the 9mm USP pistol.

A few differences from the commercial USP pistol...

  • It's marked P8A1, not USP.
  • The barrel rifling is traditional lands and grooves instead of the polygonal rifling of the USP.
  • The safety selector switch functions the opposite of the USP - fire is in the up position, safe is in the down position. The F and S are on the frame, not on the switch.
  • It has three dot sights made with luminescent paint, not tritium. They glow, but need to be charged with a light.
  • Comes with translucent 15rd plastic magazines.
  • It has a beefier slide than the USP. Reinforced metal at stress points.
  • These are not made for the American market. HK USA does not import them, they come in by third party importers.

There might be some other differences. I don't have another 9mm USP to compare it to, so I'm just going by the info I've been able to find online.

From what I understand, very limited numbers are imported into the country each year. I basically got it just to have something a little different.


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#7 ·
Nice. I'd love to see a picture of the internals - do you know how they changed the safety direction? The exploded view in the manual makes it look like a slightly different safety lever, but I'm not sure.

Thanks!
 
#17 ·
Little difference.
S&W, Beretta used a SLIDE mounted decocker/safety.
This one is mounted ala 1911.
Those of us (old guys/Boomers) that shot 1911s, Hi Powers, CZs a LOT will not easily transition to this and frankly won't (at least I) want to!
 
#19 ·
Thanks to spending several days shooting with the German army, I have fired the P8 and G36 more than any other H&Ks. The P8s were very reliably guns. The trigger wasn't as good as the Beretta, but the frame mounted safety was a lot better.
 
#20 · (Edited)
That's a nice pistol, congrats.

A1 is the reinforced version of the P8. The early P8s showed some durability problems, similar story like the M9 in US service.

The Bundeswehr ordered backwards safety, because it's the same as the Walther P1s safety, used by the Bundeswehr before the HK P8.

Some parts may be interchargeable with the USP, but some not. Safety, barrel, hammer and mag release are different. Springs and guide rod are also different.

I don't think that a USP slide will be interchargeable with a P8 grip and vice versa.
 
#21 ·
Congrats! Very nice!

Like others, the reverse of the safety direction throws me a little bit. It seems counter-intuitive to have the safety flip in that direction. Germans don't do things like that without thought, so I am sure they felt they had a very good reason for reversing the direction. I am curious if anyone knows what that reason is.

Regardless, cool gun! Congrats!
 
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#24 ·
Great gun! I bought one in June 2023 simply for my collection, they are not easy to find and in 10-15+ years will sell well “easily getting back $400+ what you paid) I found mine at a shop and the owner sold it to me for 650 with an HK M223A-1 rifle that just came in (2950) I was really lucky and wasn’t looking to buy anything. Just simply at the range my wife and I shoot at every Sunday 🙏. I’ve been lucky with my HK firearms I started collecting in 1986 and bought 2 HK sp 89 9 mm and another 45 mm for 700 ea also from the same store (not range shop ) bought hk-91 x 2 and a 93 and a mark 23 this was just part of what I bought in a 2-3 year period. Now 300+ large collection and these hk older pre -68 people have offered me crazy amounts for them. These hold there value it’s crazy 😜. I carry a few USP both 45 and 40 which all shoot dead on Hold onto any hk you get especially ones that are pre ban or /and imported. Because many people get these newer hk and don’t relize they are built in hk’s USA factory
 
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Sorry but I was reminded of the P7.