Just ordered a few {4} grip plugs for my glocks.Later on I noticed that my g 27 had no tit on it to lock the plug in like the other glocks.Are all 27's like that and how does it stay in?
grip plug
-
Glocktalk is a forum community dedicated to Glock enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about Glock pistols and rifles, optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, and more!
pahermit
1 - 20 of 35 Posts
Joined
·
6,834 Posts
Yes.
It is of no importance because such plug gimmicks are purely cosmetic and serve no useful function.
While that may very well be true, can you imagine a manufacturer saying anything to the contrary? I think we'd have to take their advice with a grain of salt. No manufacturer will say, "Sure, add on any aftermarket items and we're certain that the gun will work just fine." Of course they would advise against using them, regardless of any explanation they may have.
Joined
·
2,853 Posts
"QUOTE"
how does it stay in
You drill a hole in the grip & put the plug in.
"QUOTE"
According to Glock, plugs change the dynamics of how the polymer frame reacts and moves during the recoil impulse.
NONSENSE!!!!!
how does it stay in
You drill a hole in the grip & put the plug in.
"QUOTE"
According to Glock, plugs change the dynamics of how the polymer frame reacts and moves during the recoil impulse.
NONSENSE!!!!!
Joined
·
50,384 Posts
Another possible consideration to using aftermarket 'plugs' is whether the material and tolerances might be such that damage to the Glock frame might occur, like a crack under stress (impacts, etc). If it were a factory part, the company would obviously invest sufficient R&D to make it work with their molds without damage to the grip frame.
Remember the original reasoning behind the presence of the grip frame's opening (drainage) in the P80 (G17 when imported here).
While there's been an argument that closing off the grip frame space (channel) might help prevent blown dust and other small debris from being allowed to enter into the trigger mech housing area, I've ever only known one instructor/armorer who actually experienced having a piece of grit find it's way up around the trigger bar/connector. It lodged itself behind the trigger bar tail and eventually prevented the trigger bar from moving far enough rearward to release the firing pin. (Occurred during training.) It also damaged the connector, having been ground against the surface by the trigger bar's movement and pressure. It happened in a really nasty, windy environment, though.
I've seen similar sand and grit find its way inside other makes/models of pistols when the wearers were rolling around on the sand, so it's not like closing off the grip frame opening would guarantee it wouldn't/couldn't happen.
I leave well enough alone on my Glocks, but then I only carry them to use to stake my life upon. I wouldn't add them to any Glock brought to me as an armorer, either, for a similar reason.
The Glock lanyard part is more of a reduced size cap than a plug. Notice the lanyard cap still retains drainage 'cuts', and doesn't completely fill the grip frame recess.
Remember the original reasoning behind the presence of the grip frame's opening (drainage) in the P80 (G17 when imported here).
While there's been an argument that closing off the grip frame space (channel) might help prevent blown dust and other small debris from being allowed to enter into the trigger mech housing area, I've ever only known one instructor/armorer who actually experienced having a piece of grit find it's way up around the trigger bar/connector. It lodged itself behind the trigger bar tail and eventually prevented the trigger bar from moving far enough rearward to release the firing pin. (Occurred during training.) It also damaged the connector, having been ground against the surface by the trigger bar's movement and pressure. It happened in a really nasty, windy environment, though.
I've seen similar sand and grit find its way inside other makes/models of pistols when the wearers were rolling around on the sand, so it's not like closing off the grip frame opening would guarantee it wouldn't/couldn't happen.
I leave well enough alone on my Glocks, but then I only carry them to use to stake my life upon. I wouldn't add them to any Glock brought to me as an armorer, either, for a similar reason.
Joined
·
2,853 Posts
"QUOTE"
damage to the Glock frame might occur
8K rounds thru a G29(with plug)--ANXIOUSLY waiting for damage. :freak:
damage to the Glock frame might occur
8K rounds thru a G29(with plug)--ANXIOUSLY waiting for damage. :freak:
Joined
·
2,106 Posts
I would imagine that glock would frown on the finger groove chops too....
Joined
·
50,384 Posts
What part of might eluded you?
It depends on the tolerances matching up between the grip and the particular aftermarket plug.
Some folks have opined that installing a grip plug might even help prevent backstrap damage in the event of a dropped gun, by offering more internal support within the channel.
Others have wondered about installing plugs that require screw attachment, whether that might affect the frame.
Some plugs are advertised to fit just by friction, if not snapping into the frame hole. (How much friction is too much? Will one be just too big to fit in any particular frame?)
Some report that the presence of a plug helps their loading techniques (I think Todd Green was one) ... and others claim filling the opening with a plug slows their acquisition of grabbing a sticky mag to remove it.
If someone has a particular gun and plug that doesn't cause them any problems? Good for them. Or in your case, good for you. Hope it never changes.
Once you start mixing factory and aftermarket parts, though, you've kinda reached a point where the gun company engineers left off and now you're in relatively uncharted territory. Now you're relying on the aftermarket designers.
Same old, same old. This is why LE/Gov/Mil agencies tend to be conservative on how/whether they allow modifications to guns that are used in the role of dedicated weapons. Sometimes the gun companies and outside vendors may work together with a major customer to address expressed needs and desires, too.
Joined
·
1,025 Posts
I can insert a mag faster with no snags hmmmm I guess it’s more than a gimmick bro
Sent from my iPhone using Glock Talk mobile app
Joined
·
1,025 Posts
Those cuts are for use with back straps lol it doesn’t alter any structural integrity in fact it would make it more robust
Sent from my iPhone using Glock Talk mobile app
I had a plug in my Gen 3 Glock 26 a long while back..
It's in my stash of goodies, Way too large to fit in the Gen 4 G26..
I'd think you could fill that opening with sand & the Glock would still work, I'm sure someone has already tried it during a torture test, In fact once I was at Keisler's & a tank came riding up the street & they layed a Gen 2 G20 on the pavement & they were running it over.. The hatch opened & out popped Ted Nugent..
I haven't had the need to even try a grip plug on the Gen 4 Glock 26
There are no quick magazine changes on most of the sub-compacts, Mostly because the grip hand is larger the length of the magazine & the end of it catches on your palm..
It's in my stash of goodies, Way too large to fit in the Gen 4 G26..
I'd think you could fill that opening with sand & the Glock would still work, I'm sure someone has already tried it during a torture test, In fact once I was at Keisler's & a tank came riding up the street & they layed a Gen 2 G20 on the pavement & they were running it over.. The hatch opened & out popped Ted Nugent..
I haven't had the need to even try a grip plug on the Gen 4 Glock 26
There are no quick magazine changes on most of the sub-compacts, Mostly because the grip hand is larger the length of the magazine & the end of it catches on your palm..
Joined
·
2,853 Posts
"QUOTE"
What part of might eluded you?
Not much, my 5 competition Glocks all had plugs, all my carry Glocks had them including the G29 carried now--no problems--maybe I've just been lucky--not.
What part of might eluded you?
Not much, my 5 competition Glocks all had plugs, all my carry Glocks had them including the G29 carried now--no problems--maybe I've just been lucky--not.
Joined
·
513 Posts
Modiphobia strikes one Glock owner every 30 seconds. Modiphobia is an irrational fear that any bits of plastic & metal, not expressly designed in Deutsch Wagram will render their "Perfection" instantly unreliable.....
Before this affliction became widespread, there never was a hand pistol ever designed by man that could not be improved and/or enhanced by smoothing, tuning or modifying something on it.
Before this affliction became widespread, there never was a hand pistol ever designed by man that could not be improved and/or enhanced by smoothing, tuning or modifying something on it.
1 - 20 of 35 Posts
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
