Are there any survival books you all would recommend ?
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Rare, but important. Can find in the public library. The account of the Bielski Brothers in Belarus in WW2. A thousand unrelated people came together and lived in a forest. The book described things so horrible that I would read for a while and the it down and start reading another day. The important thing is to learn leadership and coordination of people.
In the real world, you are not Rambo when you have a sick wife, children and lack skills to do everything from sewing to shooting to cooking. You need to know now what you have to do in a group survival.
You live in a country of 330,000,000 people. If the took the 48 states of the continental US, and you went back to 1776, how many people lived in that area? Less than the population of Los Angeles County. The people were subsidence farmers or hunter-gatherers. And you are not going to live off the land or bug out by yourself to some inaccessible region that will be "safe" and support you.
One time there was a forum member who lived in Maine who said it was forested and he would survive just fine. I went and pulled a 1947 article on the horrific and uncontrolled forest fires that wiped out the state. I always wondered if that guy thought that there would be a fire department after shtf. You read about the western fires, the California fires- and there are people who persist in thinking that they will go in the wild and survive.
I belonged to a club with a facility 50 miles from a major city. 3 fire trucks were lost at the 100 yard line on the rifle range in massive forest fire.
How do you organize 1000 people ranging from a jeweler to a ditch digger to an academic to an old man to a woman with a small child. Read the book and learn. It is not necessary to have everyone be trained as an SF trooper and you will not have the equipment anyway.
In the real world, you are not Rambo when you have a sick wife, children and lack skills to do everything from sewing to shooting to cooking. You need to know now what you have to do in a group survival.
You live in a country of 330,000,000 people. If the took the 48 states of the continental US, and you went back to 1776, how many people lived in that area? Less than the population of Los Angeles County. The people were subsidence farmers or hunter-gatherers. And you are not going to live off the land or bug out by yourself to some inaccessible region that will be "safe" and support you.
One time there was a forum member who lived in Maine who said it was forested and he would survive just fine. I went and pulled a 1947 article on the horrific and uncontrolled forest fires that wiped out the state. I always wondered if that guy thought that there would be a fire department after shtf. You read about the western fires, the California fires- and there are people who persist in thinking that they will go in the wild and survive.
I belonged to a club with a facility 50 miles from a major city. 3 fire trucks were lost at the 100 yard line on the rifle range in massive forest fire.
How do you organize 1000 people ranging from a jeweler to a ditch digger to an academic to an old man to a woman with a small child. Read the book and learn. It is not necessary to have everyone be trained as an SF trooper and you will not have the equipment anyway.
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The original "How to Survive in the Wilderness" by Bradford Angier should be on every survivalists book shelf. IMO this was/is the survival book to have. The SAS Survival Handbook is a great reference book. It's not a reading type book, more of a reference. Here's how to make a shelter, to make a knot, to rappel... Excellent for a quick reference on survival topics.
As for fiction, Jerry Ahern's Survivalist series was really good. Go Detonics pistols! And John Wesley Rawles has several entertaining and somewhat realistic survival story books. He also has some non-fiction books which are worth picking up as well.
As for fiction, Jerry Ahern's Survivalist series was really good. Go Detonics pistols! And John Wesley Rawles has several entertaining and somewhat realistic survival story books. He also has some non-fiction books which are worth picking up as well.
For a couple years I used to get Backwoodsman Magazine. Come every other month. A lot of basic articles on fire making, creating stoves out of scrap, building shelters, etc.
Interesting stuff. We'd always read them up my friends' hunting cabin. Very folksy writing.
I just let the subscription end after awhile, it has been years since I've read one.
Interesting stuff. We'd always read them up my friends' hunting cabin. Very folksy writing.
I just let the subscription end after awhile, it has been years since I've read one.
bd I just ordered it off Amazon $20.
But hey this isn’t man’s first Rodeo, how the hell did OOOG and his wife Hannie, er I mean MOOG do it.
But hey this isn’t man’s first Rodeo, how the hell did OOOG and his wife Hannie, er I mean MOOG do it.
Are you looking for literature or a survival manual?
Literature, about 20 years ago on my way to Hispaniola, I picked up a compilation of Outside magazine. I think it was the first 20 years or something like that. Great book. It had an excerpt from into thin air, and a few other real interesting articles. Since then, Outside magazine has turned into a liberal magazine that isn't worth the paper it is printed on.
Survival manuals are a different subject and I will need to organize and think about.
Literature, about 20 years ago on my way to Hispaniola, I picked up a compilation of Outside magazine. I think it was the first 20 years or something like that. Great book. It had an excerpt from into thin air, and a few other real interesting articles. Since then, Outside magazine has turned into a liberal magazine that isn't worth the paper it is printed on.
Survival manuals are a different subject and I will need to organize and think about.
I think outside the box most of the time.
The following is suggestion that if you follow it, you will more skills than simply buying "a book".
Get the following books:
1. Boy scout handbook and the information of what skills demonstration you have to advance to the highest rank of Eagle Scout.
2. You buy the merit badge books, new or used, that if you met the requirements, you would make Eagle Scout. I think that there are about 21 merit badges required.
3. If you follow the requirements for each merit bade, you will gain the skills.
4. If you do the following, there is the opportunity for your spouse, your son, your daughter, or members of your group after shtf to learn skills. Your cooking skills, shooting skills, first aid skills are NOT transmittable through osmosis, or the air.
The qualities of an Eagle Scout are not generally articulated.
1. To get to that level, a person has to plan, staff, organize, and control his life and coordinate (not your case) with a merit badge counselor to get signed off. Employers know this and that hiring one is plus to his organization.
The following is suggestion that if you follow it, you will more skills than simply buying "a book".
Get the following books:
1. Boy scout handbook and the information of what skills demonstration you have to advance to the highest rank of Eagle Scout.
2. You buy the merit badge books, new or used, that if you met the requirements, you would make Eagle Scout. I think that there are about 21 merit badges required.
3. If you follow the requirements for each merit bade, you will gain the skills.
4. If you do the following, there is the opportunity for your spouse, your son, your daughter, or members of your group after shtf to learn skills. Your cooking skills, shooting skills, first aid skills are NOT transmittable through osmosis, or the air.
The qualities of an Eagle Scout are not generally articulated.
1. To get to that level, a person has to plan, staff, organize, and control his life and coordinate (not your case) with a merit badge counselor to get signed off. Employers know this and that hiring one is plus to his organization.
The Dave Canterbury books are good suggestions.
I'll add both of Cody Lundin's books, 98.6 Degree, the Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive and When Disaster Strikes, Stuff You Need to Know to Survive.
Les Stroud and Mykal Hawke have also put out several books to consider.
I have enjoyed Cody's books quite a bit. Some humor but also practical information and common sense approach to survival. Fittingly the man lives what he teaches.
I'll add both of Cody Lundin's books, 98.6 Degree, the Art of Keeping Your Ass Alive and When Disaster Strikes, Stuff You Need to Know to Survive.
Les Stroud and Mykal Hawke have also put out several books to consider.
I have enjoyed Cody's books quite a bit. Some humor but also practical information and common sense approach to survival. Fittingly the man lives what he teaches.
Two good books worth owning. I have two Camping and Woodcraft books and I would not recommend buying a new one. I know my old hardbound copy will last me the rest of my life. I bought a new copy several years ago for a loner and the pages started falling out almost immediately. Perhaps the binding is better on the copies available now, but I would make sure I could send it back if there was a problem. Used hardbound with its sewn binding from ebay or a used book dealer is what I would get. New paperback Shelters, Shacks, and Shanties I got has helds up well for the past 10 yrs or so.
A good review.
Shelters, shacks, and shanties : Beard, Daniel Carter, 1850-1941 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Shelters, shacks, and shanties (archive.org)
The book of camping and woodcraft : a guidebook for those who travel in the wilderness : Kephart, Horace, 1862-1931 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The book of camping and woodcraft : a guidebook for those who travel in the wilderness (archive.org)
If you want to listen while doing something else.
A good review.
Shelters, shacks, and shanties : Beard, Daniel Carter, 1850-1941 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Shelters, shacks, and shanties (archive.org)
The book of camping and woodcraft : a guidebook for those who travel in the wilderness : Kephart, Horace, 1862-1931 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
The book of camping and woodcraft : a guidebook for those who travel in the wilderness (archive.org)
If you want to listen while doing something else.
Ardbark is pretty much the best stie to get free survival books. currently reading bushcraft 101 Bushcraft 101: A Field Guide to the Art of Wilderness Survival - Download PDF
site has alot of ads though. the link to get books is at the bottom of each post. it says PDF
site has alot of ads though. the link to get books is at the bottom of each post. it says PDF
OLD thread but ill add. there was a guy on here years ago ( i believe it was here or survivalistboards forum) that had several long posts of his family experience during the bosnia war. very interesting read. Backwoodsman magazine already mentioned. lots of ideas. this booklet below used to be put out by fur fish and game and sits at deer camp. wrote turn of the century, that last one! dave canterburys is the same size. historical.
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The Waldo Canyon Fire was a "Where were you when?" moment for Colorado Springs. It's also the very last time that I ever considered "Bugging out to the woods".
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I took that picture probably right before lunch time on June 26th 2012. That was the moment the Waldo Canyon fire burned over the top of the hill into Queens Canyon on the western edge Colorado Springs.
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That's what it looked like that afternoon.
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And that's what it looked like right around 6:00 that night. Over 300 homes got burned down that night.
If you're out in the woods and something like that happens you're done.
I took that picture probably right before lunch time on June 26th 2012. That was the moment the Waldo Canyon fire burned over the top of the hill into Queens Canyon on the western edge Colorado Springs.
That's what it looked like that afternoon.
And that's what it looked like right around 6:00 that night. Over 300 homes got burned down that night.
If you're out in the woods and something like that happens you're done.
Foxfire books are good for homesteading. Read the ‘One Second After’ series. It details an EMP and what happens.
For what it is worth, a quick "google" search for survival manuals and survival schools showed up with a surprising number of options. Readers or student recommendations probably would make it somewhat easier to evaluate and select from them. I think training, supported with reading is part of the "Eagle Scout" success methodology.
I have received some great training, read quite a few books, and planned for different scenarios over the years. One thing that has become my best guess is that if half the people from a given larger metro decide to bug out (and the other die waiting for government help), every possible bugout route might be crowded. And what will you find when you get there? Hard to say (unless you have a Titan missile silo prepped!). I say this because most of the population lives within 45 miles of a metro...which could mean that "bugging out" will come in waves, with desperation building over time.
All my training is worthless if I have not acquired good maps with assets marked on them (ahead of time) for a trip or to gain necessities close to home and enroute. I don't think that GPS will be available in a variety of scenarios...
The idea of living off the land is not bad, but an examination of how to make a remote campsite secure and remain hidden for an extended period of time requires training that exceeds most combat vets experience. Add children into the mix and remaining undetected becomes more difficult.
imo, this is not just reading, but training, conversing with like minded people - which may be a better idea for those with loved ones, rather than trying to get them through the "living off the land" experience. Not sure my children and grandchildren are ever going to embrace much of the "living off the land" experience! When I look at where I would bug out to and what I would have when I got there, or hardening my home, hardening my home seems like a good idea (at least, until it is not). And I have a plan for that too. But planning and doing are not always easy! Just my thoughts...
I have received some great training, read quite a few books, and planned for different scenarios over the years. One thing that has become my best guess is that if half the people from a given larger metro decide to bug out (and the other die waiting for government help), every possible bugout route might be crowded. And what will you find when you get there? Hard to say (unless you have a Titan missile silo prepped!). I say this because most of the population lives within 45 miles of a metro...which could mean that "bugging out" will come in waves, with desperation building over time.
All my training is worthless if I have not acquired good maps with assets marked on them (ahead of time) for a trip or to gain necessities close to home and enroute. I don't think that GPS will be available in a variety of scenarios...
The idea of living off the land is not bad, but an examination of how to make a remote campsite secure and remain hidden for an extended period of time requires training that exceeds most combat vets experience. Add children into the mix and remaining undetected becomes more difficult.
imo, this is not just reading, but training, conversing with like minded people - which may be a better idea for those with loved ones, rather than trying to get them through the "living off the land" experience. Not sure my children and grandchildren are ever going to embrace much of the "living off the land" experience! When I look at where I would bug out to and what I would have when I got there, or hardening my home, hardening my home seems like a good idea (at least, until it is not). And I have a plan for that too. But planning and doing are not always easy! Just my thoughts...
SAS Survival Handbook is a good one as well. link to get it is at the bottom of the post. says PDF
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