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Glocks in Iraq

32K views 78 replies 55 participants last post by  NIB  
#1 ·
I work for a communications contractor here in Iraq. I was at the PX when I started a conversation with a security contractor. I asked how his Glock was performing here in the desert. He said that they have had zero problems with the G19 and G17 they carry. He when to to explain that they train quite a bit so the gun get very dirty but still have no problems.

I've spoke with one Navy and a couple of Army guys that have had or heard of a few problems with their Sigs and Berettas malfunctioning.
I'm glad I decided not to buy the commemorative Sig they were offering a while back. When I was home on vacation, I picked up a new G26 under the military discount program instead.
 
#8 ·
My little brother is going to be deployed to Iraq here in a couple of months(he is Army) and evidently, he may get the chance to qualify/carry a Glock 19 or 17.
That surprised me a bit, since I assumed the standard issue weapon for the USA is the Beretta?
???
 
#9 ·
good choice,sigs are overpriced and overrated.....i love my G26 so much i now have two

Sigs and HKs are great guns. The most accurate production 9mm to date is still considered to be a SIG P210.

One of the most accurate production .45ACPs is the HK MK23

If you think SIGS are over rated you probably are not exposing yourself to a lot of shooting.

I too have 2 x G26s. They keep good company with the other 35+ or so Glocks I own.

Did SIG make a few guns that should have probably stayed on the drawing board? Maybe. But for the most part, great guns.


JD, good pick with the G26!

'Drew
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#10 ·
JD,

Glad to see you're still posting. When are you coming home so I can buy you a beer?

Even though I just bought a Kahr K9, I've got the Glock bug again and may need take advantage of their military discount to buy a G19.

Anyway, let me know when you get back.

:wavey:
 
#14 · (Edited)
I would love to get a contracting job over there. They let you carry over there doing comm work? The only job I found over there said no carry and they dont provide security.
I wish. The security contractors, military, and federal law enforcement are the ones that are armed. All I can carry is a Leatherman and Benchmade folder.
 
#15 ·
JD,

Glad to see you're still posting. When are you coming home so I can buy you a beer?

Even though I just bought a Kahr K9, I've got the Glock bug again and may need take advantage of their military discount to buy a G19.

Anyway, let me know when you get back.

:wavey:
Roger that.
 
#19 ·
Pete Blaber (Delta) and another SF in A-stan--both with Glocks
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Outside Kandahar
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William Lancaster, is the Chief of our Tactics Training Division.
He is the former CMMS Range Master of the US Army Special Forces Advanced Reconnaissance Target Analysis and Exploitation Techniques Course (SFARTAETC) at Ft. Bragg N.C. He started his military career in the 101st Airborne Division as an 11B infantryman. He served in 1st Special Forces Group (ABN) Okinawa ,Japan as an 18B in Cco 1st Bn. 1st SFG(A) (C-1-1) where he was assigned as a breacher for F team,Troop 1 in the Combatant Commanders In-extremis Force (CIF). He then served as a cell leader for A cell, Troop 1 SFOD-A351 Bco 2nd Bn 3rd SFG(A) CIF. He served as a Troop Advisor to the ICTF while assigned to B-2-3 with many combat missions while in Iraq and attended the Israeli Counter-Terrorism Course as an exchange instructor.
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3rd SFG, Afghanistan
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SFC Woods, 20th SFG, RIP
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#21 ·
People either forget or do not know that the role of Army SF is to train and lead indigenous forces. A handful of SF are using Glock 19's because that is we gave the Iraqi police nd other units. Half of them were promptly sold off to people who would use them to shoot at us.
As to Sig their QC and parts quality is nothing like it used to be. The guy who used to run Kimber now runs Sig. Besides dramatically increasing the number of firearms they sell he also outsourced parts manufacturing to the cheapest bidder and I do mean cheap. He also decreased quality control and customer service. The intent is to sell more firearms and make more of a profit from each unit sold. A lot of long time Sig employees have left the company because of this. A lot of long time Sig customers are disgusted with the state of things and won't buy any more Sigs. They are no longer worth their premium price over Glocks' and other pistols in the $500 price range. If you shoot 1,000 rds a year you might not notice a difference. If you shoot often you will.
 
#24 · (Edited)
While what the above poster said about training Iraqis and carrying the same sidearms (Glocks), that does not necessarily make sense. After all, the Iraqis we train use AKs, but I don't see a lot of US personnel with AKs. It may be true some of the time, but it doesn't hold true in the following cases, which show SF training in GERMANY:

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These pics all represent the exception, mind you, as you see a lot more Berettas in pics, but clearly Glocks are starting to show up more and more in the hands of US troops. Also, on another note, Pete Blaber was definitely not in A-stan to train the locals!
 
#25 ·
Special forces comprise a small percentage of the overall military and due to their unique mission sets and requirements are often fitted with "specialized" equipment, in that it is not the standard issue that other soldiers, sailors Marines and airmen are issued. The standard issue service pistol is still the Beretta M9.