[Wererat]

What advantages would a rotary barrel have over standard Glock barrel?

Based on the actual performance of Grand Power, Beretta (e.g., PX4, Cougar), Kel-Tek PR57 and similar designs, the advantages are:

• Barrel stays in line with plane of fire. Arms are generally quite accurate in a similar way to straight blowback pistols.
• Rotating action tends to direct some recoil force as rotational rather than backwards or up. Perceived as tame recoil
• Whether due to the rotating action or other design features, rotating barrel firearms are known for extreme reliability (ref. Langdon 50k PX4 test; "PX4 Storm Tracker" multiple 100k+ tests.) I want their ammo budget...

The 46 design is, if I remember, slightly different but had the same effect. I can personally vouch for the first two benefits.

As for what would sell, will it come here, will it be part of gen6? Maybe, maybe, and no idea. I would imagine Glock are having discussions about how much innovation they need to obtain the sales they want in LEO and commercial spaces ahead of "clones" like RXM or simple competitors. That, and not forum chatter, will probably drive the decision.

 

[fastbolt]

Well, it would give Glock US the ability to offer potential LE/Gov users the ability for their users to take-down the guns for cleaning without having to pull the trigger.

I've no doubt but that some fervent Glockophiles would cheerfully add one, or more, to their collections. Just because.

The different take-down and reassembly might not be as much of a selling factor for the casual owner/user who has already long been accustomed to Glock operations, though.

If there's enough money to be made, without encroaching on the manufacturing runs of established Glock models that sell as fast as they're produced, Glock might introduce it here. Or not. Guess we'll see.

 

[Markm87]

Where are all the "Glock innovation" magpies on this one? 😂

 

[happyguy]

Where are the guys who always complain Glock never does anything new…they just switch slides and frames around and remove finger grooves?

 

[happyguy]

Well, it would give Glock US the ability to offer potential LE/Gov users the ability for their users to take-down the guns for cleaning without having to pull the trigger.

I've no doubt but that some fervent Glockophiles would cheerfully add one, or more, to their collections. Just because.

The different take-down and reassembly might not be as much of a selling factor for the casual owner/user who has already long been accustomed to Glock operations, though.

If there's enough money to be made, without encroaching on the manufacturing runs of established Glock models that sell as fast as they're produced, Glock might introduce it here. Or not. Guess we'll see.

Perhaps they would make one without the decocker for the USs market. I don’t mind pulling the trigger to disassemble my Glocks.

 

[Matteo1371]

I’ll believe when I see one for sale here.

 

[pewNerds]

Where are the guys who always complain Glock never does anything new…they just switch slides and frames around and remove finger grooves?

lol I'm right here, and this is a quintessential glock move to make a change like this but not rebuild the slide around the new operating system. I think rotating barrels are pretty cool though. They offer a unique recoil impulse. This just appears to be half baked.

Maybe the benefit here is super deep optic mounting and cowitness with standard height sights. lol

If they fixed this little thing, they'd have an extremely low bore axis and reciprocating mass that would compete with the Laugo Alian... and that would be pretty neat.

 

[azmercedes]

yeah, somethings finally changing for the maybe better. Want one/need one.....

 

[Deeds86]

Extremely uninterested! It has features I avoid when purchasing a new pistol, although I think it will probably sell here due to it being different but that's not why I buy guns...

 

[DrewBone]

I have a SIG Arms/Mauser M2 handgun that utilizes a rotating barrel action, chambered in .40S&W.

It's wide but operates very smoothly, and is more pleasant to shoot than similarly sized tilting barrel action handguns chambered in .40S&W.

 

[Markm87]

These types of things take years to evolve. I wouldn't jump into this new design until it'd been widely fielded for at least 3-5 years.

And I damned sure don't care about even the most amazing design if it's still stuck in the puny 9mm caliber. Snooze city. That's my problem with Alien pistols. Infinitely intersting, but stuck in 9mm wimpville.

 

[njl]

Why can’t it be suppressed? If the rotation of the barrel loosens the suppressor cut the threads the other way. There is such a thing as right hand and left hand threads. It’s been used in circumstances like this for many many decades.

I would argue that suppressors are uncommon enough in the US market that it's a moot point. The vast majority of Glock owners/shooters don't own a suppressor.

 

[fastbolt]

Perhaps they would make one without the decocker for the USs market. I don’t mind pulling the trigger to disassemble my Glocks.

One of the points of the G46 was for the German Police to be able to decock for field-stripping without pulling the trigger.

 

[Check-raiser]

Interested, could potentially handle higher pressure cartridges like 9mm sized 356 tsw that blows 357 sig out of the water.

 

[cciman]

Placebo

There are/were rotating barrel pistol designs being sold, none of them are market successes (actually all are near failures).

(Grand Power, PX4, Mauser-Sig M2)

Why mess up something you do well?

 

[Syclone0538]

Why can’t it be suppressed? If the rotation of the barrel loosens the suppressor cut the threads the other way. There is such a thing as right hand and left hand threads. It’s been used in circumstances like this for many many decades.

I'd imagine adding a bunch of weight (relatively) to the barrel that has to spin would significantly slow it down, which I'm sure would negatively effect cycling.

 

[happyguy]

One of the points of the G46 was for the German Police to be able to decock for field-stripping without pulling the trigger.

Understood but probably not a big selling point in the USA. I would buy one either way and give it a run.

 

[Syclone0538]

Placebo

There are/were rotating barrel pistol designs being sold, none of them are market successes (actually all are near failures).

(Grand Power, PX4, Mauser-Sig M2)

Why mess up something you do well?

I really like the PX4, but I like DA-SA. I think the recoil reduction is real, but not magic. I think if there was a quality rotating barrel striker fired pistol that sold for $500 it could be a success.

 

[Police Marksman]

These types of things take years to evolve. I wouldn't jump into this new design until it'd been widely fielded for at least 3-5 years.

And I damned sure don't care about even the most amazing design if it's still stuck in the puny 9mm caliber. Snooze city. That's my problem with Alien pistols. Infinitely intersting, but stuck in 9mm wimpville.

The Glock G46 has been out since 2019, (six years) and has been issued to 10,000 German Police Officers. I assume the G46 has been thoroughly field tested with many thousands of rounds.

 

[Matteo1371]

Interested, could potentially handle higher pressure cartridges like 9mm sized 356 tsw that blows 357 sig out of the water.

You can rechamber just about any 9mm for 356 TSW. And no it does not blow 357 SIG out the water.