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Glock 21 vs. 1911

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28K views 232 replies 129 participants last post by  bac1023  
#1 ·
I have a G17 and G19 and lots of 9mm ammo. I'm comfortable with shooting and cleaning them and familiar with the manual of arms.

I'm also thinking about buying a .45 ACP pistol and wanted your opinions.

I've talked to a couple of 1911 owners who think they're the bee's knees, especially in SHTF. A couple months back, someone let me shoot his 1911 at the range (Springfield Armory). I didn't like the muzzle climb, though the rest of the recoil was tolerable. I didn't think to compare my accuracy vs my G17. I also watched YouTube videos on disassembly and cleaning and feel comfortable doing these tasks. However, I've read that the 1911 requires more repairs and is more ammunition and magazine sensitive/fussy than Glocks.

Is there any advantage that I'm missing that the 1911 offers that the Glock 21 doesn't?

Ditto with using .45 ACP for self/home defense vs. 9 mm?

Last year, I was going to buy a G21, but there was no .45 ACP available, so I bought a G17 and 9mm ammo to go with it.

Oh, and I'm in California, so I can't buy new mag for any gun that have a capacity of more than 10 rounds.

Thanks
 
#2 ·
You heard right. I own both. I like shooting 1911 beta, till it's reload time. But I can shoot my g4 21 nearly as well
 
#6 ·
Thanks, everyone!

Ordell Robbie, primarily for SHTF. I didn't realize that 1911s have such a big following. I'm thinking that proficiency would be good to have in advance in case I'm without my Glocks and/or there are battlefield pick-ups of 1911s. That said, I suspect that 9mm ammo in that situation would be more plentiful than .45 ACP or .40 S&W?
 
#7 ·
If you are comfortable shooting your Glocks, I say stick with them.
I have always been of the mindset that for a self defense weapon, find a platform that you are comfortable with, get intimately familiar with it and practice shooting, taking it down, clearing malfunctions, and stick with that one platform.

It seems to me that switching back and from one gun to a totally different gun, is not a great idea.
If any of my Glocks jammed, I am pretty confident that I could clear it in a dark room, whereas the same jam on one of my CZs or other handguns I might have to pause and think about what I was doing.

For me, the 1911 was never an option at all. I just have never liked them, but if I did and chose it as a SD weapon, I would stick with it too.
Familiarity is not only a good thing in this case. It is essential.
 
#8 ·
To me there is just something with Glock 9mm’s and 1911’s. They just seem to compliment each other. They are my favorite two platforms. The 1911 is the only full size handgun that I can shove in my pants. All glocks ride owb.

Perfection was created in 1911 and it wasn’t by Gaston.


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#9 · (Edited)
Too much typing. There are reasons the US military (and LEO) dumped the 1911 (many youtube videos - make the points), and no modern military force uses the 1911.

How good are you? What are your skills and training level? -- that is what you should assess and dictate your personal choice (not what others opinions are).

 
#90 ·
Too much typing. There are reasons the US military (and LEO) dumped the 1911 (many youtube videos - make the points), and no modern military force uses the 1911.

How good are you? What are your skills and training level? -- that is what you should assess and dictate your personal choice (not what others opinions are).



 
#11 ·
Thanks, all.

TheFlash, though I'm in California, the G30SF is actually on roster. However, I've never seen one at an LGS for sale, new or used.

For those of you who own 1911s, do you find any advantages to upgrading the 1911's recoil spring guide to full length?

And what brands do you like and dislike and why? I have my sights set (no pun intended) on a Rock Island or Springfield Armory.
 
#73 ·
I too am in California! It took me a while, but I was able to find a G30SF at an online retailer and have it sent to my FFL. Was not able to handle one first, but since I already have 2 G26's, I figured it was just a sized-up G26. And it is...
With the Pearce extensions swapped out for the standard baseplates/bases, the little extra flare at the bottom helps with controls and space for your pinkie finger...
 
#14 ·
If this is for TEOTWAWKI I suggest simply staying with the 17 and 19. Buy extra parts, magazines, and ammo and pack it all away. The 1911 is ok and does have a following, but the Glock pistols offer easy parts changing, common parts between the two guns you have, wide availability, and they work. You can save money doing this that can go to other essential items for those SHTF days. I know it’s hard when one gets the bug for something new, but these days inflation limits us a lot. Thanks Brandon.
 
#218 ·
I had a G21 gen 3.
I have two 1911's. Colt NRM in .45 Acp.
An RIA in 9mm.
Also a FN in .45 acp.
And a S/W 325 revolver in .45 acp.
All are good shooters.
For range use I prefer the 1911.
My 325 is my bedside gun.
Might buy another 21 some day, but as I recall it was like holding a brick. Much like the FN.
 
#17 ·
Ultimately it is how much ammo you can afford to train with to be sufficiently good at. More training and skill dictates choice. Buy training, and training time.

He makes the final conclusion at about 20:20 (end of the video), choosing 1911 or Glock > good video though.

 
#18 ·
l also have both a G21 and a full size 1911. I no longer carry the G21 because I found it to be too bulky for IWB, so I mounted a light and relegated it to being a nightstand gun. That said, having to use it inside my home, would constitute a SHTF situation for me. It is dead reliable, and holds enough .45 to get the job done, one would hope.

If capacity and ease of maintenance are primary concerns, I'd go with the G21.

But of the two, I prefer shooting and carrying the 1911.
 
#20 ·
The Glock 21 is a durable pistol capable of lasting for several hundred thousand rounds. It was my duty pistol the last 20 years or so of my career and we had pistols in training with over 300k+ rounds on them. Nothing at all against the 1911, but in a true 'situation' I'll take the Glock every time.
 
#21 ·
What he said ^^

I have both a Glock 21 and a 1911. The Glock 21 is on my nightstand. The 1911 is stored away. I also carry a Glock 30 everyday.

I also own an unhealthy number of Sig P series and HK USPs in 45 acp as it is my favorite caliber.

Glock for the win when it comes to self-defense both at home and outside the home. For me, that same trigger pull on a striker fired Glock trumps the DA/SA of the Sigs and HKs or the safety of the 1911 in a true emergency.


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#23 ·
I have both and prefer my G21 Gen4 especially for SHTF. Why? First of all. The Grip frame feels more comfortable to me. It absorbes more recoil and therefore makes for quicker follow-up shots. I have several 1911's and appreciate them for what they are. They are beautiful peices of history and I like to shoot them. But Because of my time behind a Glock Platform and recoil management of the 21 Gen 4, I would reach for it every time over a 1911 for a SHTF situation.
This is just my Opinion and you should check it out yourself if you can rent both.
Also, If I ever planned to use a 1911 in a SHTF situation I would make sure I used Wilson Combat Magazines.
 
#25 ·
I really like 1911's... if I'd had one in 10mm I probably would still have it but mine were all .45's and I never kept any that I owned. They're easy to shoot well and easy to conceal too.

But the only semi auto pistols I own right now are 10mm Glocks.

If you already have one or more Glocks and like them, I'd stick with them, because they have a lot of common parts across models and you can work on one yourself pretty easily. Another point in limiting your semi auto firearms is that every semi automatic (and plenty of other guns too) is literally a mallrat starter kit. ie, buy it and then you're buying more magazines, different sights, maybe a red dot, trying different holsters, etc... and it all adds up to a hell of a lot of wampum.
 
#26 ·
wish I could help... but I have glock , Desert Eagle 1911, Cz , springfield Xd , browning hi power , ruger american and sr series... so yeah I will have a hard time to choose which one I like the best. but my bed stand piece is a G21 and a 12 gauge... all my pieces shoot every time ... but I've put them through its paces accordingly.