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Glock 17 vs 45 (continuing to beat a dead horse)

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#1 ·
My only 9mm Glock is an early gen 5 19 that I’ve been concealed carrying for 2.5 years now and I absolutely love it. I’m tired of carrying my G19 during the day and coming home and putting a light, threaded barrel, and suppressor on (yeah yeah suppressor for home defense, I’ve heard all the arguments for and against and don’t care) only to take all that stuff off so I can carry it again in the morning. I want another 9mm Glock purely for a bedside home defense gun, and I’m torn between the G17 and G45.

I was pretty well set on a gen 5 G17 until I started thinking about the barrel. There aren’t too many companies making gen 5 G17 barrels, and the few that do are either constantly out of stock or fairly expensive or both. Meanwhile I’ve already got a threaded G19 barrel that works just fine, so I started considering the G45 for the sole reason that I won’t need to buy (not to mention find in stock) a gen 5 G17 barrel. I’ve never fired a G19x/G45 size gun but I can’t imagine it’ll be too much different than the G19 I’ve already got.

I don’t have any pistol red dots but I’m definitely not opposed to getting into them later, so at this time I’m not considering any pros and cons between the G17 and G45 when it comes to having a red dot on them.

Is there any real reason why I should go with the longer G17 (or even a G34) over a G45 for a dedicated bedside HD gun with a light and can? Is the slight loss in velocity really anything to even consider? Being able to save $150-$250 by not needing to buy another threaded barrel (assuming I could even find a gen 5 G17 threaded barrel in stock for a non scalped price) seems like a pretty good argument for the G45 but I guess I’m just not entirely sold on the concept of a shorter slide with longer grip.

Sorry for the novel length post
 
#2 ·
Get the 45. Put the barrel in it. Ensure it functions.

There’s not going to be any noticeable difference between a45 and a 17 if they’re both Gen 5. You’re just thinking too much about it.

Or, stick with what you know and buy a 19 MOS and then you have the option for a red dot later if you want and double the amount of magazines you have for it.

PS. The “shorter slide longer grip” argument goes out the window once you put a suppressor on it.
 
#5 ·
The G45 would be the logical choice. I have the 19X as my night stand pistol which basically amounts to the same thing as the G45.
 
#6 ·
Well just to make things interesting, consider this. I suggest you get a G34 for HD. My HD Glocks are G35 and G21. I would make the argument that the longer barrel and slide are going to give you a more balanced feel particularly with the suppressor and TLR or whatever light you use at the front. Also, I use a G34 as my go to competition pistol. if you ever decide to do some IDPA or GSSF matches, you already have a ready made competition pistol. The matches also serve to keep your HD skills sharp and current. Good luck with whatever you decide!
 
#7 ·
Other than preference or parts compatibility, not really much point in choosing one over the other.

Your 19.5 barrel(s) will already fit the G45 as will 100% everything else and vice versa so I would lean toward the G45 - put the threaded barrel in it and use it suppressed as your HD weapon then carry the 19 as normal.

My recommendation is not get anything and drop the can to use the 19 for both roles, though I'm sure that's not what you want to hear. While I do very much like my 9mm and .45 cans, the can does add extra length so I do not use or rely on it for HD.
 
#8 ·
MY personal preference is for the Glock 17. But, that is because it is a gun that fits me exceptionally well (think: the way a lot of guys describe the way a G19 fits them), and because I have 20 years of experience with it.

With that said, what works for me may very well not be the best option for you, and based upon the circumstances you describe, I would say it isn’t. It sounds like the G19 is your preferred carry gun, and between the two options you mentioned, the G45 would come closer to replicating the handling characteristics of what you are already used to, albeit with a longer grip and a couple extra rounds onboard.

The velocity difference between the G17, and a G45 (or G19/G19X) isn’t going to be anything to write home about, although it is something that I do appreciate as a G17 fan. You’re talking a very small advantage, all things considered, although I do like the cycling characteristics of the longer slide a bit better than the shorter variants as well.

If it were me, I would give careful consideration to possibly getting a Gen 5 Glock 19 MOS assuming that you have selected your existing G19 because it fits you like a glove. If however, you find that your hands are a bit too big to honestly say that the G19 is a good fit, then I would say that the G45 would be your best option.
 
#12 ·
Buy a Glock 26 for edc. You can leave the Glock 19 setup exactly how you want it for home defense.
 
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#13 ·
As much as I like the 19X (and I do), I've often said the G45 is just slightly better in that it will take all generations of G17 mag as well as having front serrations. However, if you do the math the 19X comes out just slightly ahead of the G45.

19 = 1+9 = 10
45 = 4+5 = 9

10 > 9
 
#14 ·
The sole reason for wanting to buy another 9mm Glock is just for a suppressed HD gun. Before choosing to use a suppressor on my HD pistol I kept a G21 with a light out on my bedside. I wouldn’t bother buying a new handgun for HD if it wasn’t for wanting a dedicated suppressor host for it because I could use anything else instead without a suppressor. The G45 just seems logical as I already have a barrel and it does have the added benefit of a larger grip to help balance the weight of the can off of the front end of the gun. If the threaded barrel wasn’t a factor I’d prefer getting a G17 or G34 just for the added barrel length but I’m pretty enamored with Gen 5 Glocks, and although I’m nearly equally enamored (but not quite as much) with Gen 3 Glocks and could pick up a Gen 3 G17 with threaded barrels available everywhere I just really think Gen 5 is a worthwhile improvement.

I’ve been sitting on about 1000 rounds of .357 Sig for a while after I sold my last .357 Sig gun with the intention of replacing it with a G31 or G32 (was leaning G31), but it was perfect timing with the start of the big gun panic last year and .357 Sig Glocks were more or less gone. They’re coming back in stock now, so I’ve also been thinking of just buying a G32 for CC and keeping my 19 around for HD. It’ll kill two birds with one stone, but at the same time I want more 9mm Glocks too. Why does everything have to cost money?

Not interested in a G26, I can CC a G19 just fine and if I want smaller I’ve already got smaller options. The G19 is just a perfect do all size gun.
 
#17 ·
You really can't go wrong either way, after feeling how amazing a G34 shoots, I am much more inclined to look at longer slide guns. My vote is for the 17 but a 45 wouldn't be a bad choice since you already have the barrel that will fit your needs. Try and shoot both, see what you like better. It is not gonna be a huge difference either way you go.
 
#19 ·
I’m not a huge fan of the G45 design. But if I were in your shoes I’d get it over the G17.5. I say that because it’s closer to your 19 in point-ability and also because many LE agencies are going to it. Because of that it will get some extra attention regarding aftermarket parts. It appears Glock is pushing the G45 to LE more than the G17. Why is that? I don’t really know other than maybe to push it to greater popularity which the G17 has already achieved.
 
#35 ·
Why are they pushing the G45? Because the G17 has been around forever, and in order to keep business moving along you always have to come up with something new and tout it as better than what came before it. It's all just a variation on a theme to make you want the newest, latest and greatest. I mean, if you suck now, you're only going to get better if you have the besets and newest right? Has nothing to do with actually training. It's all about having the most current offerings.
 
#26 ·
I own them both, love them both. I only have 3k through my 45 due to ammo shortages but that is enough tripper time to develop a legitimate feel for the gun. I haven't put them under a chrono but I feel the velocity drop between the 2 is minimal. Your situation looks like 45. The real answer IMHO is shoot em both and you decide. Truly you cannot make a bad decision in either direction.