How are the Glock 17 in Gen 4 ? I know there were some rust issues because I had a 27 Gen 4 and it rusted . But was there any other issues with them ? I'm a big Gen 2 and 3 shooter but never had a Gen 4 long enough to see how it worked. The rust issue pissed me off so much that I sold it. Anyways I was thinking of a 17 in Gen 4 . Any thoughts or experiences with Gen 4 is appreciated.
Gen 4 Glock 17's
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How are the Glock 17 in Gen 4 ? I know there were some rust issues because I had a 27 Gen 4 and it rusted . But was there any other issues with them ? I'm a big Gen 2 and 3 shooter but never had a Gen 4 long enough to see how it worked. The rust issue pissed me off so much that I sold it. Anyways I was thinking of a 17 in Gen 4 . Any thoughts or experiences with Gen 4 is appreciated.
I live in Florida and zero rust issues with mine. It’s all about maintenance and that includes a wipe down with a light oil.
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A gen4 23 won't be any different than a Gen4 17 - you might want to stay away from them based on your personal experience.
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I’ve owned six G17 Gen 4s over the years and still have two of them. Two of the guns had over 50K rounds through them before I sold them, and 18K-25K through a couple other Gen 4 G17s. I can’t comment on rust issues, as I’ve never had an issue with rust on any GLOCK and I live in the south, where our summers are very humid, and carry IWB. Coincidently, I’ve been carrying my G27 Gen 4 for quite some time without rust issues. I wipe down my carry guns with a patch and some oil regularly when it‘s hot and humid and in the winter if I’m spending time in the cold and then coming into warm places indoors, as condensation can form on the gun.
The only major issue I had with a G17 Gen 4 was a fluke cracked frame rail on one gun and it was replaced under warranty. Aside from that, I had to replace a firing pin on one of my competition guns that had tens of thousands of rounds through it and probably even more dry fire presses, which I did daily. In addition to dry fire, I often did the one-shot drill as part of my routine practice, so the slide of the gun slammed forward on an empty chamber frequently.
Given the amount of rounds I put through G17 Gen 4s and the amount of abuse some of them went through, I was well pleased with how they performed.
The only major issue I had with a G17 Gen 4 was a fluke cracked frame rail on one gun and it was replaced under warranty. Aside from that, I had to replace a firing pin on one of my competition guns that had tens of thousands of rounds through it and probably even more dry fire presses, which I did daily. In addition to dry fire, I often did the one-shot drill as part of my routine practice, so the slide of the gun slammed forward on an empty chamber frequently.
Given the amount of rounds I put through G17 Gen 4s and the amount of abuse some of them went through, I was well pleased with how they performed.
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Nothing to add regarding performance, but as you many know, Glock discontinued gen 4 9mm models for civilian sales. To me, the significance of any discontinued product (I'm thinking older revolvers) is that eventually spare parts become hard to find. YMMV.
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I live in the South and my early production G17.4 has the frying pan finish and has had zero rust issues.
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I found a good deal on one that seemed to have no wear on top of the barrel where the "smilies" usually are and the rest of the gun is just as new looking with the factory copper grease still in it. I'll run the serial number through Glock on Monday to check the date of manufacture. It may be a newer Gen 4 .
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Got a few Gen 4 guns, carried a couple on duty through monsoons and other stuff, and carried concealed. Never heard of an issue with rust on any of our guns except one guy who didn’t ever do any maintenance on his gun and we had to replace the extractor depressor plunger because it rusted from rain getting in from the top of the slide. He was a motor officer.
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People used to complain about Kimber barrels rusting. They were made from carbon steel and should be treated as such. The Glock isn't any different.
The older guns that had the tenifer process made the steel hard and damn near impervious to corrosion. The new gen 3, the 4s, and the 5s do not have that treatment under the finish. While their finish is way better protection against corrosion than bluing or parkerizing, they should still be treated as carbon steel guns. I clean a gun just like anyone else and lube it just like anyone else, but I use a product called Barricade for under things like grips, or the outside of a gun. It has no benefit as a lube, but goes on an dries to a film that protects the gun. I have never had one rust yet using Barricade.
If you touch one, wipe it down. If you carry one, wipe it down more frequently.
If you have a gun with steel sights, be sure to wipe them down too.
The older guns that had the tenifer process made the steel hard and damn near impervious to corrosion. The new gen 3, the 4s, and the 5s do not have that treatment under the finish. While their finish is way better protection against corrosion than bluing or parkerizing, they should still be treated as carbon steel guns. I clean a gun just like anyone else and lube it just like anyone else, but I use a product called Barricade for under things like grips, or the outside of a gun. It has no benefit as a lube, but goes on an dries to a film that protects the gun. I have never had one rust yet using Barricade.
If you touch one, wipe it down. If you carry one, wipe it down more frequently.
If you have a gun with steel sights, be sure to wipe them down too.
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Most of the complaints started coming in after the gen 4s hit the market. I have never heard about it with the later gen 4 or the gen 5s. Still though, a little preventative maintenance goes a long way.
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Me too. My 19.4 is about as rust proof as a gun can be.
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Yeah , I forgot about that . Thanks !
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One of my early model 19.4 had an ejector issue that basically ejected spent brass right back at your face/ head. It was sold by me soon after with a full disclosure to the buyer. He fixed it or sent it to Glock to be fixed. I went with a Smith and Wesson M&P 357 until the frame cracked on it. I must admit S&W was good about it thou. Then I went back to a 19.4 and have it still
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Research pistol, just type in Gen 4 Glock issues'
It's your money, trust/do your own research.
Research pistol, just type in Gen 4 Glock issues'
It's your money, trust/do your own research.
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GLOCK still treats the steel in the gun, which similar to Tenifer, hardens the steel making it corrosion resistant. This following is taken directly from GLOCK’s website:
Surface Treatment
GLOCK applies advanced surface treatments on major metal components, producing an outer hardness comparable to, though slightly less than, that of diamonds. This considerably reduces wear and tear on these metal components and makes them corrosion resistant, even when operating in saltwater conditions. The matte black surface minimizes light reflection—an advantage in tactical circumstances.
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How similar is that to Melonite, or is it the same?
I wonder if they didn't do that with the original gen 4s then. I remember within a few months of them hitting the market, people were all over the forums complaining. S&W has used Melonite on their M&P line for years, but those are already stainless slides.
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